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R-Tistic Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:20 am Post subject: The 1982 NBA Finals: Lakers vs Sixers |
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On another board, I saw folks discussing the 80's Lakers, and I realized something. I was born in 1984, so I wasn't there to see anything unless you count watching the 1988 Finals as a 3 year old. But after watching enough documentaries, old games on NBA TV/ESPN Classic/Laker Channel, and reading a lot about the Lakers history.....1982 is the least talked about Championship year we had in the 80's.
I think most fans can name something about every other year off the top of their head:
1980: Magic played Center in place of Kareem, and won Finals MVP as a rookie
1985: We finally got over the hump and beat the Celtics
1987: We beat the Celtics once again, and Magic hit the dramatic hookshot
1988: Isiah balled hard on a twisted ankle, scoring 25 in that 3rd quarter, but still couldn't bring the Pistons to victory. And Worthy went nuts and got MVP with that Game Seven Triple Double.
I was able to name all of those things without Google...but for 1982? Hmmm....I remember hearing Jamaal Wilkes played great, but that's about all I can tell you off the top.
So for those who were there, or who've researched it...what stood out about that series? |
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Wilkes52 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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The Finals series itself was no big contest. Cap was steady. Magic was Mr Everything. Wilkes was at the peak of his game but un-flashy guy that he was, he made everything look sooo easy. Sixers got to game six, wobbly.
The overall feel I had at the time of the championship win was unshakeable confidence for the future. We had Cap. We had Magic. We had Silk, Coop and Stormin' Norman. We out-classed the Sixers by an arm's length - with an inexperience new coach (Riles.)
All indicators pointed towards support for the idea that Lakers could be unbeatable in the playoffs from here on out. After all, that June Magic's second title as a Laker had come with the loss of our new power forward, Mitch Kupchak. Rambis' Superman put on a cape that would last for a moment. Everything looked like roses. James Worthy would be drafted in another month.
But Kupchak would of course not return to health and power, and Worthy would break his leg long before mid-season 1983. Who would foresee that the league's new best center Moses Malone would make the difference and would enable Dr J and Toney to carve through us like butter in another year's time ? Those two teams had met for three of the past four Finals series ('80, '82, '83.)
Who would know ahead of time that Bird's Celtics would out-muscle the Lakers in'84 ? Superman would meet his green Kryptonite (McHale.)
Confidence baby, the NBA future looked like it in June 1982, that it would be All Lakers Forever. That's close to what happened for me. _________________ “These GOAT discussions are fun distractions while sitting around waiting for the pizza to be served.”
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gumby Star Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2500 Location: Inland Empire
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I just don't think there was anything striking about it, that's why.
Not meant as a negative, but just a fact.
Someone from back in the day would know better. I didn't start following the Lakers and basketball until 1984.
Bye. _________________ "This trophy removes the most odious sentence in the English Language. It can never be said again that 'the Lakers have never beaten the Celtics.'" -Dr. Jerry Buss (1985) R.I.P., 33 x M.V.O. |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: The 1982 NBA Finals: Lakers vs Sixers |
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R-Tistic wrote: | On another board, I saw folks discussing the 80's Lakers, and I realized something. I was born in 1984, so I wasn't there to see anything unless you count watching the 1988 Finals as a 3 year old. But after watching enough documentaries, old games on NBA TV/ESPN Classic/Laker Channel, and reading a lot about the Lakers history.....1982 is the least talked about Championship year we had in the 80's.
I think most fans can name something about every other year off the top of their head:
1980: Magic played Center in place of Kareem, and won Finals MVP as a rookie
1985: We finally got over the hump and beat the Celtics
1987: We beat the Celtics once again, and Magic hit the dramatic hookshot
1988: Isiah balled hard on a twisted ankle, scoring 25 in that 3rd quarter, but still couldn't bring the Pistons to victory. And Worthy went nuts and got MVP with that Game Seven Triple Double.
I was able to name all of those things without Google...but for 1982? Hmmm....I remember hearing Jamaal Wilkes played great, but that's about all I can tell you off the top.
So for those who were there, or who've researched it...what stood out about that series? |
1982 was an amazing year. Six games into the season, Magic said he wanted to be traded because he didn't like the coach Paul Westhead. Westhead was soon fired and Buss announced GM Jerry West would be the coach, but West said he wouldn't. They hired Pat Riley, who implementing the Showtime offense to suit Magic.
Magic said he wasn't responsible for Westhead's firing, but fans on the road and at home booed him. That changed of course when Magic won his second finals MVP.
It was also the year when we got Bob McAdoo and Michael Cooper made his first all-defensive first team. Believe its the only Laker team where four different players got votes for league MVP -- Kareem, Magic, Wilkes and Cooper.
Maybe the most dramatic of all the Magic/Kareem rings. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Itwasagreatyear! _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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McAdoo was my recollection of what made the year special. The Lakers had a great need for a capable big man at pf and backup center.
Kupchack had been a big name, expensive free agent but he tore up his knee early in his first season in L.A. and was never right again.
Spencer Haywood was on the 79/80 championship teams but badly misbehaved and underperformed due to apparent drug probelms.
Early in his career McAdoo was THE man in Buffalo. He was Buffalo Bob McAdoo. Football analogy of guys you watched even if not a fan of the team was O.J., Earl Campbell, Barry Sanders. No matter what team you rooted for, you had to talk about McAdoo at school, the barber shop, or with your friends even though there weren't many televised national tv games. He had been a legend. So getting him from the unemployment line after he averaged 30.6, 31, and 34, in 3 of his first 4 seasons was amazing. Philly's GM commented about how fortunate the Lakers were to get him as he was making a difference in the 82 series. |
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Surfitall Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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This game was one of my best memories as a youngster. I got to go to the finals game when I was 12. Back then, there was no courtside security at the end of the game, so we along with what seemed like everyone else rushed the court and celebrated right there on the hardwood after the Lakers won. The parking lot and Century Blvd was electric with cars honking, people shouting, and dancing in the streets. It was awesome. |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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lakersboy wrote: | Early in his career McAdoo was THE man in Buffalo. He was Buffalo Bob McAdoo. Football analogy of guys you watched even if not a fan of the team was O.J., Earl Campbell, Barry Sanders. No matter what team you rooted for, you had to talk about McAdoo at school, the barber shop, or with your friends even though there weren't many televised national tv games. He had been a legend. So getting him from the unemployment line after he averaged 30.6, 31, and 34, in 3 of his first 4 seasons was amazing. Philly's GM commented about how fortunate the Lakers were to get him as he was making a difference in the 82 series. |
McAdoo was an odd pickup. He was MVP in 75, but then bounced around the league, developing a rep as a gunner who couldn't play defense and was always complaining his didn't get enough publicity One year he got traded twice. He was waved by the Pistons. We got him after a couple of injury filled seasons. No one was sure if would pass the physical.
The deal was heavily criticized at the time. Lots of people were surprised that he was able to keep his huge ego in check and become a strong backup. The
His Lakers stint vindicated his career. Only former MVP not to make the all-time Top 50 team and for a long time people thought he'd be the only former MVP not to make the Hall of Fame -- most former MVPs make it in their first year of eligibility; took McAdoo a decade.
People still argue if he was overrated or underrated. |
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70sdude Star Player
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:41 am Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | lakersboy wrote: | Early in his career McAdoo was THE man in Buffalo. He was Buffalo Bob McAdoo. Football analogy of guys you watched even if not a fan of the team was O.J., Earl Campbell, Barry Sanders. No matter what team you rooted for, you had to talk about McAdoo at school, the barber shop, or with your friends even though there weren't many televised national tv games. He had been a legend. So getting him from the unemployment line after he averaged 30.6, 31, and 34, in 3 of his first 4 seasons was amazing. Philly's GM commented about how fortunate the Lakers were to get him as he was making a difference in the 82 series. |
McAdoo was an odd pickup. He was MVP in 75, but then bounced around the league, developing a rep as a gunner who couldn't play defense and was always complaining his didn't get enough publicity One year he got traded twice. He was waved by the Pistons. We got him after a couple of injury filled seasons. No one was sure if would pass the physical.
The deal was heavily criticized at the time. Lots of people were surprised that he was able to keep his huge ego in check and become a strong backup. The
His Lakers stint vindicated his career. Only former MVP not to make the all-time Top 50 team and for a long time people thought he'd be the only former MVP not to make the Hall of Fame -- most former MVPs make it in their first year of eligibility; took McAdoo a decade.
People still argue if he was overrated or underrated. |
McAdoo was both a Laker asset and a liability.
He was still an excellent jump shooter from mid-range during his Laker period, and he handled the ball well for his size among players of that era. He was not known for passing the ball to a more open man if he thought he had any type of shot at all. He could rebound well when motivated. But motivation was questioned in terms of giving full effort. He was not a strong presence at the defensive end except on rare occasions. That placed a large burden on any Laker team on the floor when Magic also played, which was basically always, especially when Cap rested. Too much overlap in the two men's common weaknesses defensivel,y in Magic and Doo.
I felt his years with us reflected this vulnerability at critical moments. Teams would make big runs against us when Cap sat. Experienced two Finals losses and two Finals wins with McAdoo as the main big man backup. Could have been better but it's hard to dispute he helped us get to the Finals four years straight. |
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:01 am Post subject: |
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As a 7 year old, I remember my mother letting me stay up to watch one, may have even been the last one, game 6. They were in Philly. Hard to believe, but NBA Finals games were once shown on tape delay. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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Special: Jim Hill Lockerrom Interviews w/ '82 World Champions
Norm Nixon, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Bob McAdoo, rookies Kurt Rambis and Mike McGee
Jun. 08 1982: Los Angeles 114, Philadelphia 104
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Jun. 06 1982: Philadelphia 135, Los Angeles 102
- 1982 NBA Finals: Lakers at Sixers, Gm 5 part 1/12
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Jun. 03 1982: Los Angeles 111, Philadelphia 101
- 1982 NBA Finals: Sixers at Lakers, Gm 4 part 1/12
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Jun. 01 1982: Los Angeles 129, Philadelphia 108
May 30 1982: Philadelphia 110, Los Angeles 94
- 1982 NBA Finals: Lakers at Sixers, Gm 2 part 1/12
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May 27 1982: Los Angeles 124, Philadelphia 117
- 1982 NBA Finals: Lakers at Sixers, Gm 1 part 1/12
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May 15 1982: Los Angeles 128, San Antonio 123
- 1982 NBA WCF: Lakers at Spurs, Gm 4 part 1/14
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May 14 1982: Los Angeles 118, San Antonio 108
May 11 1982: Los Angeles 110, San Antonio 101
May 09 1982: Los Angeles 128, San Antonio 117
May 02 1982: Los Angeles 112, Phoenix 107
- 1982 NBA WCSF: Lakers at Suns, Gm 4 part 1/10
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Apr. 30 1982: Los Angeles 114, Phoenix 106
Apr. 28 1982: Los Angeles 117, Phoenix 98
- 1982 NBA WCSF: Suns at Lakers, Gm 2 part 1/9
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Apr. 27 1982: Los Angeles 115, Phoenix 96 |
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doughboy90650 Franchise Player
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Was the finals that's probably the fifth significant of those five titles in the 80's.
1985 - finally ended C's curse
1988 - went back to back. Hasn't been done in a while
1987 - beat C's again. Baby hook.
1980 - first of Showtime era. Magic with 42/15/7. Wilkes huge as well
1982 - a title but doesn't trump the other 4. |
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What a coincidence I'm watching game 6 right now at the airport |
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