LeBron vs Mike - Teams Beaten for Rings
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:33 pm    Post subject:

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you mean he spent his rookie years without other all-stars.

fact is free agency is all about the secret definition of collusion. likely the first time in history 3 all-stars in the same conference placed themselves on the same team. what you describe is more Durant to GSW than LBJ to miami. And back on point, MJ/Kobe never had that, so LBJ has work todo. Being a dbag has nothing todo with legality of a situation.


MJ and Kobe never needed it either. They already have a good enough team that they wouldn't find a better one if they leave. In Kobe's case, when it wasn't good enough he demanded to leave. Are you okay with Kobe demanding out when he was still under contract or are you pretending that it didn't happen?


He contemplated leaving and stayed.


If by stayed you mean the owner wouldn't trade him, sure.


Didn't he veto a trade to the Bulls? Or Clips... I forget which one.

Edit: It was Detroit my bad


He vetoed Detroit because they weren't on his short list. He gave LA a list of teams he would go to but they wouldn't move him to those teams. Kinda a stretch to say he decided to stay. They wouldn't trade him to his preferred spots.

Kobe just happened to be under contract when he wanted to bounce. It all worked out for him and the team in the end.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:20 pm    Post subject:

He also blocked a move to the Bulls, now that I remember. Lakers asked for Deng, whom Kobe wanted on the team. Essentially he weighed his options, realized any team trading for him would have to gut itself to do so (which would put him right back at square 1) and decided it was better to just stay put.
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