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venturalakersfan
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Kyler is just hoping his credibility takes a big leap. He's been right and wrong on sources basically through out his time as a reporter he's not someone you look for news. |
Well since Jim Buss has said that Lou is part of our core, I am guessing he is right on this one. |
Lol.
Lou is not apart of our core. He is just a piece on the roster. If you are gonna believe Steve Kyler then good 4 u.
But with the off-season not even set yet no one knows who's getting traded or who's staying. |
Try reading what I posted, it wasn't Kyler, it was Jim Buss. You know, the man in charge.
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Lou Williams off the bench in this offense would be key to our success of that 2nd unit.
Judging him because he was severely overplayed by Byron in a role he hasn't had in his entire career is jumping it a bit. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Lou Williams off the bench in this offense would be key to our success of that 2nd unit.
Judging him because he was severely overplayed by Byron in a role he hasn't had in his entire career is jumping it a bit. |
And with the way salaries are going, at a great price.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Kyler is just hoping his credibility takes a big leap. He's been right and wrong on sources basically through out his time as a reporter he's not someone you look for news. |
Well since Jim Buss has said that Lou is part of our core, I am guessing he is right on this one. |
Lol.
Lou is not apart of our core. He is just a piece on the roster. If you are gonna believe Steve Kyler then good 4 u.
But with the off-season not even set yet no one knows who's getting traded or who's staying. |
Try reading what I posted, it wasn't Kyler, it was Jim Buss. You know, the man in charge. |
Yeah because Jim is supposed to say that the players on the roster aren't relevant right? It's called raising the trade value of the players by speaking highly of them in the public. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Kyler is just hoping his credibility takes a big leap. He's been right and wrong on sources basically through out his time as a reporter he's not someone you look for news. |
Well since Jim Buss has said that Lou is part of our core, I am guessing he is right on this one. |
Lol.
Lou is not apart of our core. He is just a piece on the roster. If you are gonna believe Steve Kyler then good 4 u.
But with the off-season not even set yet no one knows who's getting traded or who's staying. |
Try reading what I posted, it wasn't Kyler, it was Jim Buss. You know, the man in charge. |
Yeah because Jim is supposed to say that the players on the roster aren't relevant right? It's called raising the trade value of the players by speaking highly of them in the public. |
"Buss also listed forward Larry Nance Jr. and veteran guard Lou Williams as building blocks for the future."
Jim didnt mention Nick Young  |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Kyler is just hoping his credibility takes a big leap. He's been right and wrong on sources basically through out his time as a reporter he's not someone you look for news. |
Well since Jim Buss has said that Lou is part of our core, I am guessing he is right on this one. |
Lol.
Lou is not apart of our core. He is just a piece on the roster. If you are gonna believe Steve Kyler then good 4 u.
But with the off-season not even set yet no one knows who's getting traded or who's staying. |
Try reading what I posted, it wasn't Kyler, it was Jim Buss. You know, the man in charge. |
Yeah because Jim is supposed to say that the players on the roster aren't relevant right? It's called raising the trade value of the players by speaking highly of them in the public. |
"Buss also listed forward Larry Nance Jr. and veteran guard Lou Williams as building blocks for the future."
Jim didnt mention Nick Young |
like I said. Owners and GMs are supposed to speak positively regarding there players and rather positive or negative those players bring, it would be dumb for them to say something that will ruin the value of that player. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Kyler is just hoping his credibility takes a big leap. He's been right and wrong on sources basically through out his time as a reporter he's not someone you look for news. |
Funny cause my name is Kyler, but yes he's off and on.. |
That's true of anyone. Woj is renowned for getting scoops, but that's of done deals. When speculating, everybody hits and misses. |
while i agree, Steve Kyler and Alex Kennedy have a habit of throwing at the wall and see if anything sticks.
i dont trust those guys at all |
Woj, Stein, Manix seems like the best
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Lou could be a great spark of the bench in Walton's system. Last year Lou got the bad wrap because Scott chose to play him over the rookies and he took minutes we all deemed valuable minutes. With Scott gone that should not be the case this year. his D is awful but when we signed him we did not sign him for his D.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Kyler is just hoping his credibility takes a big leap. He's been right and wrong on sources basically through out his time as a reporter he's not someone you look for news. |
Well since Jim Buss has said that Lou is part of our core, I am guessing he is right on this one. |
Lol.
Lou is not apart of our core. He is just a piece on the roster. If you are gonna believe Steve Kyler then good 4 u.
But with the off-season not even set yet no one knows who's getting traded or who's staying. |
Try reading what I posted, it wasn't Kyler, it was Jim Buss. You know, the man in charge. |
Yeah because Jim is supposed to say that the players on the roster aren't relevant right? It's called raising the trade value of the players by speaking highly of them in the public. |
That's irrelevant to trade value. The only time what a GM or owner says about a player has even a slight chance of making an impact on trade value is if they say something negative about him. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| rebirth wrote: | | Lou could be a great spark of the bench in Walton's system. Last year Lou got the bad wrap because Scott chose to play him over the rookies and he took minutes we all deemed valuable minutes. With Scott gone that should not be the case this year. his D is awful but when we signed him we did not sign him for his D. |
I agree with everything you said. His outside shooting and ability to get to the line will fit in nicely with the Luke system. His D will be bad, but with a better scheme he might be able to at least get some steals with this speed. Lastly, his contract is super reasonable.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | rebirth wrote: | | Lou could be a great spark of the bench in Walton's system. Last year Lou got the bad wrap because Scott chose to play him over the rookies and he took minutes we all deemed valuable minutes. With Scott gone that should not be the case this year. his D is awful but when we signed him we did not sign him for his D. |
I agree with everything you said. His outside shooting and ability to get to the line will fit in nicely with the Luke system. His D will be bad, but with a better scheme he might be able to at least get some steals with this speed. Lastly, his contract is super reasonable. |
Lou is an exciting scorer, he has value and will definitely provide instant Offense off the bench. However I think his defense will always be bad. His price tag is good for us. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| rebirth wrote: | | Lou could be a great spark of the bench in Walton's system. Last year Lou got the bad wrap because Scott chose to play him over the rookies and he took minutes we all deemed valuable minutes. With Scott gone that should not be the case this year. his D is awful but when we signed him we did not sign him for his D. |
Agreed
Lou is a good player, but he is what he is a high octane quick scorer from the bench. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| rebirth wrote: | | Lou could be a great spark of the bench in Walton's system. Last year Lou got the bad wrap because Scott chose to play him over the rookies and he took minutes we all deemed valuable minutes. With Scott gone that should not be the case this year. his D is awful but when we signed him we did not sign him for his D. |
Lou and Bass were probably the two best players on the team last season.
At his contract, you keep him unless a deal comes along that is so good that you have to include him to get it done.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | rebirth wrote: | | Lou could be a great spark of the bench in Walton's system. Last year Lou got the bad wrap because Scott chose to play him over the rookies and he took minutes we all deemed valuable minutes. With Scott gone that should not be the case this year. his D is awful but when we signed him we did not sign him for his D. |
Lou and Bass were probably the two best players on the team last season.
At his contract, you keep him unless a deal comes along that is so good that you have to include him to get it done. |
Um, Jordan Clarkson?
However, I do agree, Lou is on a very team friendly contact.
He is a keeper |
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laker50
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Lou Williams is instant offense off the bench.
Seems foolish to trade him unless get a real good deal.
Even Nick Young, if he grows up and matures from a baby will
be good instant offense.
But they are not players you want on a championship type team. |
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| I was down pretty bad on Lou Williams last year, but after seeing some of GT's breakdowns on motion offense, what the W's did right and what the Lakers did wrong, I'm curious to see what Lou can do for us in a real motion offense, and also with intelligent pairings and substitutions. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll still be surprised if I see Lou play decent defense, though. |
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Lou Williams' scoring should give the Lakers a lot of bang for their buck
| Quote: | | n Walton’s new system, Williams likely will not start unless there is an injury. He may not even be the lead ball-handler on the second unit, but he will certainly provide scoring off the bench. I think Williams will be able to slide into a scoring role on the second unit, something he has been comfortable doing his whole career, and develop chemistry with his teammates. This will turn into a more productive offensive campaign and that success should bring new energy on the defensive end. |
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/8/23/12569996/la-lakers-lou-williams-scoring-stats-analysis |
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IMO, Lakers need all the three point shooting they can get right now. Not to emulate the Warriors, but just because they only have a couple reliable 3 point shooters - DLO, maybe Clarkson, Deng, Calderon, maybe Yi, maybe Ingram.
I wouldn't trade Lou unless it was for another 3 point shooter or a decent pick this upcoming draft (and I don't know how likely that would be). |
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Kudos to Lou!
Love him or hate him; Lou played another good game.
He made some big shots that kept us in the game during the second half.
19 points (7-14 fg) w/ 5 assists |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Great game by Louis! |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Lou has been absolutely killing it since the start of the season. He's fitting in well and has bailed us out when we needed it without taking over the offense like last season. Lou's a playmaker now??? Props 
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Lou "zero sum game" Williams.
Live by the Lou. Die by the Lou.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| He has being our best guard this season and it is not close at this point. |
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