I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course.
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
Randle is a good passer, not a special one. He can make the right pass, I just can't see him as a point forward at this stage of his career.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
Randle is a good passer, not a special one. He can make the right pass, I just can't see him as a point forward at this stage of his career.
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That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
Randle is a good passer, not a special one. He can make the right pass, I just can't see him as a point forward at this stage of his career.
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No needed, he is a good passer with good court vision, but he is not Ben Simmons
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
Randle is a good passer, not a special one. He can make the right pass, I just can't see him as a point forward at this stage of his career.
Added Nash to the group of people I am making this video for ✔️
No needed, he is a good passer with good court vision, but he is not Ben Simmons
Yea I think he has a chance to be in the middle of those two distinctions. Simmons is the best passer I've seen in a long, long time. But I actually think there's a chance Randle could be a lesser version of great
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
Randle is a good passer, not a special one. He can make the right pass, I just can't see him as a point forward at this stage of his career.
Added Nash to the group of people I am making this video for ✔️
No needed, he is a good passer with good court vision, but he is not Ben Simmons
Yea I think he has a chance to be in the middle of those two distinctions. Simmons is the best passer I've seen in a long, long time. But I actually think there's a chance Randle could be a lesser version of great
Yeah simmons passing is special. Randle is def a point-forward IMO. I don't think you have to be Simmons or lebron in order to get that title. He does enough to be considered one and will get better with experience.
Working on the definitive " Randle actually has a crapload of passing potential @mannnlisten" , vireo.
Can't wait to see it _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:13 am Post subject:
tox wrote:
manlisten wrote:
I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course.
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
That was apparently scored as an assist.
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I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course.
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
That was apparently scored as an assist.
Assists are the only subjective stat in the box score, and you get some funny ones as a result.
As an aside, that play was Peak 2015-16 Julius Randle. Juliusest Randle, if you will.
I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course.
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
That was apparently scored as an assist.
Assists are the only subjective stat in the box score, and you get some funny ones as a result.
As an aside, that play was Peak 2015-16 Julius Randle. Juliusest Randle, if you will.
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:45 pm Post subject:
GoldenThroat wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
tox wrote:
manlisten wrote:
I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course.
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
That was apparently scored as an assist.
Assists are the only subjective stat in the box score, and you get some funny ones as a result.
As an aside, that play was Peak 2015-16 Julius Randle. Juliusest Randle, if you will.
"Scorer's discretion". I wonder if there's any limit. Could three dribbles after the pass even get you an assist? Conversely, could a direct pass, if it didn't really create anything, be interpreted as a non-assist?
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:24 pm Post subject:
PICKnPOP wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
nash wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
nash wrote:
tox wrote:
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
Randle is a good passer, not a special one. He can make the right pass, I just can't see him as a point forward at this stage of his career.
Added Nash to the group of people I am making this video for ✔️
No needed, he is a good passer with good court vision, but he is not BenSimmons
Yea I think he has a chance to be in the middle of those two distinctions. Simmons is the best passer I've seen in a long, long time. But I actually think there's a chanceRandle could be a lesser version of great
Yeah simmons passing is special. Randle is def a point-forward IMO. I don't think you have to be Simmons or lebron in order to get that title. He does enough to be considered one and will get better with experience.
LOL at me coming into the DLO thread on this page and seeing this (bolded) _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course.
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
That was apparently scored as an assist.
Lol. I was referring to 0:43 but that seems to be the only notable dime.
But yeah, uhh favorable stat keeping, one may say.
I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course.
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
20/4/4 fits more in line with stellar. Watching him in SL it's not totally impossible to see him hover around the 20-22PPG mark next season, if he develops a consistent post move and can hit the 3 at a good clip those numbers should come to him with ease.
I mean it wasn't like an expert display of supreme court vision or anything. It's not something I would personally point to as an example of his potential as a passer. If a player were to drop 50 points all off cherry picked layups, aka the Corey Brewer special, I wouldn't necessarily use that game to crown him as a prolific scorer. Draymond had a bunch of triple doubles where I still wouldn't consider him a great passer just off the strength of those games. Effective, competent would be how I'd describe it. Whereas a guy like Ben Simmons I can see is a dynamic playmaker based solely on his performance in summer league. Just one man's opinion of course.
Reasonable take. I agree with it.
That's different than saying Randle isn't/ can't be a good passer. Just that I don't think that game is particularly strong evidence of it. IIRC he did have a pair of very nice dimes early on in that game, though.
That was apparently scored as an assist.
Lol. I was referring to 0:43 but that seems to be the only notable dime.
But yeah, uhh favorable stat keeping, one may say.
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