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| Rank the Lakers Top 5 Worst Decisions Since 2010 |
| Nash/Howard Fiasco |
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17% |
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| Picking Mike D’Antoni Over Phil Jackson |
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38% |
[ 38 ] |
| Letting Gasol walk for nothing in return |
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15% |
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| Completely Breaking up the team in 2011 |
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6% |
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| Not Firing Jim Buss |
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5% |
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| Other |
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19% |
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yinoma2001
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| lakurluv wrote: | Yeah Dantoni over Jax has got to be the most ridiculous decision out of the ones mentioned. That was obviously a pissing contest with Jim who was feeling some type of way with Phil and obviously he wanted to prove a point.
We probably could have achieved a whole lot better had we had better coaching, because it hasn't been the same since.
No pressure LUKE!!! |
Maybe, but would Phil really have dragged that team to the Finals? Compared to MDA, maybe he gets them out of the first round in the playoffs.
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JerryMagicKobe
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | lakurluv wrote: | Yeah Dantoni over Jax has got to be the most ridiculous decision out of the ones mentioned. That was obviously a pissing contest with Jim who was feeling some type of way with Phil and obviously he wanted to prove a point.
We probably could have achieved a whole lot better had we had better coaching, because it hasn't been the same since.
No pressure LUKE!!! |
Maybe, but would Phil really have dragged that team to the Finals? Compared to MDA, maybe he gets them out of the first round in the playoffs. |
The best part of wishing for Phil is that you can also wish that Phil wanted to coach for the sake of coaching rather than a stepping stone to take over the Lakers FO, that Nash didn't break his leg, that Dwight would buy in to the vision of his coach and play for his teammates and Kobe remained healthy despite the Achilles, knee and shoulder injuries that plagued him for the remainder of his career. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | lakurluv wrote: | Yeah Dantoni over Jax has got to be the most ridiculous decision out of the ones mentioned. That was obviously a pissing contest with Jim who was feeling some type of way with Phil and obviously he wanted to prove a point.
We probably could have achieved a whole lot better had we had better coaching, because it hasn't been the same since.
No pressure LUKE!!! |
Maybe, but would Phil really have dragged that team to the Finals? Compared to MDA, maybe he gets them out of the first round in the playoffs. |
The best part of wishing for Phil is that you can also wish that Phil wanted to coach for the sake of coaching rather than a stepping stone to take over the Lakers FO, that Nash didn't break his leg, that Dwight would buy in to the vision of his coach and play for his teammates and Kobe remained healthy despite the Achilles, knee and shoulder injuries that plagued him for the remainder of his career. |
I don't see how this team, if they somehow made it to the Finals, could beat that Miami juggernaut.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | lakurluv wrote: | Yeah Dantoni over Jax has got to be the most ridiculous decision out of the ones mentioned. That was obviously a pissing contest with Jim who was feeling some type of way with Phil and obviously he wanted to prove a point.
We probably could have achieved a whole lot better had we had better coaching, because it hasn't been the same since.
No pressure LUKE!!! |
Maybe, but would Phil really have dragged that team to the Finals? Compared to MDA, maybe he gets them out of the first round in the playoffs. |
The best part of wishing for Phil is that you can also wish that Phil wanted to coach for the sake of coaching rather than a stepping stone to take over the Lakers FO, that Nash didn't break his leg, that Dwight would buy in to the vision of his coach and play for his teammates and Kobe remained healthy despite the Achilles, knee and shoulder injuries that plagued him for the remainder of his career. |
I don't see how this team, if they somehow made it to the Finals, could beat that Miami juggernaut. |
Let alone San Antonio first. |
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Hector the Pup
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | lakurluv wrote: | Yeah Dantoni over Jax has got to be the most ridiculous decision out of the ones mentioned. That was obviously a pissing contest with Jim who was feeling some type of way with Phil and obviously he wanted to prove a point.
We probably could have achieved a whole lot better had we had better coaching, because it hasn't been the same since.
No pressure LUKE!!! |
Maybe, but would Phil really have dragged that team to the Finals? Compared to MDA, maybe he gets them out of the first round in the playoffs. |
The best part of wishing for Phil is that you can also wish that Phil wanted to coach for the sake of coaching rather than a stepping stone to take over the Lakers FO, that Nash didn't break his leg, that Dwight would buy in to the vision of his coach and play for his teammates and Kobe remained healthy despite the Achilles, knee and shoulder injuries that plagued him for the remainder of his career. |
Hey man, that burning sage along with the books would have worked wonders.  |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| lakurluv wrote: | Yeah Dantoni over Jax has got to be the most ridiculous decision out of the ones mentioned. That was obviously a pissing contest with Jim who was feeling some type of way with Phil and obviously he wanted to prove a point.
We probably could have achieved a whole lot better had we had better coaching, because it hasn't been the same since.
No pressure LUKE!!! |
So Phil finishing out that season and then walking away would have made us achieve a lot more afterward?
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Phil the Panacea still remains I see.
For Phil, I kind of like that his latter year legacy wouldn't have been tainted trying to hitch his horses on a mentally weak guy like Howard. |
People assume Phil wouldn't have made a difference but all they have is just that 'an assumption'. And Phil's track record with big men contradicts that assumption.
Howard hasn't exactly had a stellar list of coaches in his career so far. There are certain coaches that have been known to get the most out of players. Phil is one of those coaches that has a better track record than most. |
So instead of seeing how coach after coach has failed to reach Howard (who is now 30), it's on the coaches. I think we have a nearly 11-12 year track record to show it's really Dwight. |
No, its not on the coaches. I'm saying there are some guys that need a certain kind of coach that can get through to them. Call them sensitive, or coddled, whatever. I think Phil had a good chance of getting through to Howard. He's a better motivator than most coaches. And players respect him (That's a fact).....even if some FO's and a few LG members, may not.
Considering what the Lakers had invested in Howard, he was a top big at the time, and he asked for Phil, it would not have been the worst thing in the world to give him a shot to play under Phil.
We all know the coaching decision was not for basketball reasons, but rather for political ones. |
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venturalakersfan
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And Phil would have magically made Howard healthy.
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