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Lakers’ Backup Center?? |
Zubac |
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Black |
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Yi |
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True Lakers Fan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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I personally want to see Black. I think Yi can be good at the 4. It's a good problem to have though. _________________ I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm way premature because I have only seen Zubac play for 5 games but he looks like the best center long term for us. He has something to offer on both ends. His age is also on his side. He is also a Laker fan so he deserves to play for us for 10-15 years. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | I think people go too wild with the GSW comparisons.
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I agree. GSW is winning, and every team is copying pieces of their formula....nothing has changed, as this is how the NBA has always worked....but the whole this guy will be our Draymond and that guy will be our Livingston are silly. If it was that simple, anyone could coach an NBA team. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | activeverb wrote: | I think people go too wild with the GSW comparisons.
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I agree. GSW is winning, and every team is copying pieces of their formula....nothing has changed, as this is how the NBA has always worked....but the whole this guy will be our Draymond and that guy will be our Livingston are silly. If it was that simple, anyone could coach an NBA team. | Tru dat! |
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70sdude Star Player
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Player durability will likely play as significant a part in determining the Laker center rotation throughout this season as will experience, skill, and relative player competitive greatness combined. Let it unfold. I can't see much use in predicting who'd be second or third string, nor when and to what extent. We'll probably need all four of 'em. |
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waterman40 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:49 am Post subject: |
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We are probably going to see the versions of the 4-headed monster for the backup center position. I think based on what we paid and promised Black (if anything) he will get first shot as backup center. Yi looks to get some time, especially when we need another shooter, and there is suitable defense to help him out (I think Yi gets paired with Nance to make this happen). Zubac, we all love, but I think he is too young to get many minutes, I think they will be patient with him, barring injuries or trades this year. Randle might get some time too, I think Walton will try lots of combinations, and no one really knows how it will turn out, as a work in progress.
1. Who best wins matchups, especially in 2nd unit lineups at center?
2. Who shows the most offensive prowess, and ability to score, besides easy layups and dunks? _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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JJin77 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:01 am Post subject: |
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TylersLakers wrote: | I voted Yi, but I think it'll be either Nance or Randle, for the most part.
We'll see a lot of Nance and Randle together once Mosgov goes to the bench. In spot situations, we'll see Yi when we need more outside shooting.
SF: Deng (22)/ Ingram (26)
PF: Randle (32)/ Nance (10)/ Deng (6)
C: Mosgov (25)/ Nance (15)/ Yi (8) |
No Black?? |
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oldlakerfan Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:36 am Post subject: |
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If Zubac shows he is ready to be the backup we have a couple of trade chips in Black and YI.
We seem to be really deep at the 4/5 spot with a lot of the players have positional flexibility.
It would not surprise me to eventually see one of the bigs go in a package for a big 2/3 type of player. Maybe a big and Lou Williams in a package. If Brown steps up that need kind of goes away.
Anyway I see Zubac getting a few minutes and YI getting time as well. Black I think does not make the rotation. YI may get a few of his minutes at PF.
Injuries and performance have a way of working things out but it looks like we have some great depth. |
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lakurluv Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I think at the end of the day it comes down to rim protection. I know that putting up points and spreading the floor is key, but in order to win games at some point you have to stop the other teams from scoring.
Zubac might be the future for the Lakers for sure and dependent on the team their playing he could see some run. I honestly think he will spend a lot of time in the D-League honing his skills and getting use the the pace of NBA games.
Yi will probably be the first big off the bench because he can spread the floor and take up space, I look for Black to get run when we choose to go small, which in a GSW offense might be quit frequent. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:33 am Post subject: |
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With our bigs, I think we will see Luke use them, in terms of "general" categories, in 2 ways.
Big defensive walls, not mobile on D: Moz, Zubac
Speedier, small ball, more mobility but less "wall": Black, Nance, Yi, Randle. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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nash Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:12 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't be surprised with Yi playing a few minutes at PF neither with Julius as small ball C. |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:31 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | activeverb wrote: | I think people go too wild with the GSW comparisons.
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I agree. GSW is winning, and every team is copying pieces of their formula....nothing has changed, as this is how the NBA has always worked....but the whole this guy will be our Draymond and that guy will be our Livingston are silly. If it was that simple, anyone could coach an NBA team. |
I wonder if when Kerr first join GSW, all their fans were saying, "Who will be his Jordan? His Pippen? His Rodman?" |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:37 am Post subject: |
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oldlakerfan wrote: | If Zubac shows he is ready to be the backup we have a couple of trade chips in Black and YI. . |
Black is trying to win a backup center gig; Yi is trying not to be cut. Neither has any trade value. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:56 am Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | If Zubac shows he is ready to be the backup we have a couple of trade chips in Black and YI. . |
Black is trying to win a backup center gig; Yi is trying not to be cut. Neither has any trade value. |
Yi has interesting trade value in the sense a team could trade 8m-ish out and get Yi, and then cut them if they want with a minimal actual cash impact, depending on when he is traded from the Lakers (games played incentives).
Black is on a cheap deal, with the 2nd year non-guaranteed so all upside for a team that wants him. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | If Zubac shows he is ready to be the backup we have a couple of trade chips in Black and YI. . |
Black is trying to win a backup center gig; Yi is trying not to be cut. Neither has any trade value. | For contract reasons they have trade value. |
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KBH Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm expecting Black to be used the most as the backup C, but I do think Nance and/or Randle will get spot minutes at times. As for Zu and Yi, I don't expect them to get much run unless we're in foul trouble or one of them surprises. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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I fully expect Zubac to be more valuable defensively than several of the other centers. That alone should earn him some playing time on down the line. |
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Vancouver Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Fans, including myself, want it to be Zubac, but it won't be. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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Goldenwest Star Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Need preseason to evaluate.
At times last year Black has looked good with energy and hustle. Toward the end of the season, however, he looked like he was slacking off. Maybe it was part of the 'tank' strategy.
Zubac, don't know, need preseason to evaluate.
Yi, from what i saw last he was in the NBA, no. Doubt he can anchor the paint. And for small ball i'd rather see Randle as the 5. Yi should be a backup 4. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Tarik Black is a good small ball center too.
He runs the floor, effective on PnR, plays decent defense but needs to develop range on his jumper. He'll definitely be in the mix. |
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hdtvset Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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If you want a center that can shoot 3s, that will be Yi. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like Yi has the the upper hand so far through TC _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:36 am Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | Sounds like Yi has the the upper hand so far through TC |
Yi does something important to the offense that none of the other bigs do, which is space from the five. He also gives you a fairly interesting combination of size and agility defensively. The question is does he do those things well enough to get the consistent backup gig. His performance will dictate that. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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Dave20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:40 am Post subject: |
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One could make a case that Zubac is already the best C on the roster. He has great defensive instincts even as a rookie and high IQ. It won't be too long before he replaces Mosgov whether it be by his play or injury. |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Always bet on Black.
I think it is his spot to lose. He has shown some nice flashes in limited time, I think he will get his major chance under Luke.
The Rookie will play also, but I don't see him playing ahead of Black to start the season. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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