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PrairieAve
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| rwongega wrote: | | He and the team are more than welcome to move back to San Diego and throw out the first pitches for the Madres. |
No thanks. The Chargers and Padres don't need their AFC/NL championships covered by Clipper selfies.
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lakersken80
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venturalakersfan has it wrong....the Kings ownership was the one that planned and built the arena. Lakers ownership sold 25% of their share of the team in exchange for being a long term tenant. Clippers came in last and only paid 1 million in rent per year to be the 3rd tenant. Clippers don't receive a lot of the profits because they didn't share in the risks when they first built the arena...however, they get a sweetheart deal in that they don't have to worry about building a new arena....and it was only slightly more than the 300k in rent they were paying at the LA Sports Arena.....even under Ballmer, the Clippers are in no hurry to leave considering they have a contract until 2024.
Don't forget unlike many other arenas around the country, this one is not owned by the city, but by a private entity. In exchange for not asking for taxpayer contributions when it was built, the arena has to hold as many events as it could fit into a calendar year to make back the money. And that means generating money as many nights as possible with as many variety of events, concerts etc. This is why rarely you will see the Staples Center dark, it usually only happens in the summer after the NBA season ends until the start of hockey preseason. |
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SuperboyReformed
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| lakersken80 wrote: | venturalakersfan has it wrong....the Kings ownership was the one that planned and built the arena. Lakers ownership sold 25% of their share of the team in exchange for being a long term tenant. Clippers came in last and only paid 1 million in rent per year to be the 3rd tenant. Clippers don't receive a lot of the profits because they didn't share in the risks when they first built the arena...however, they get a sweetheart deal in that they don't have to worry about building a new arena....and it was only slightly more than the 300k in rent they were paying at the LA Sports Arena.....even under Ballmer, the Clippers are in no hurry to leave considering they have a contract until 2024.
Don't forget unlike many other arenas around the country, this one is not owned by the city, but by a private entity. In exchange for not asking for taxpayer contributions when it was built, the arena has to hold as many events as it could fit into a calendar year to make back the money. And that means generating money as many nights as possible with as many variety of events, concerts etc. This is why rarely you will see the Staples Center dark, it usually only happens in the summer after the NBA season ends until the start of hockey preseason. |
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| AllorNothing wrote: | | That team would probably get more respect if cp3 would stop flopping, Blake stop punching smaller guys, and Doc rivers just shut his piehole. |
Not absolutely gagging and giving away playoff series you had won (OKC, Houston) would help some also!
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| There is a simple solution to this. Stop making loser Clipper players throw out the first pitch. Let them do that with the Angels. The Angels, Ducks and Clippers need to hang together and unite. Leave the Dodgers, Kings and Lakers alone. |
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| Snipes wrote: | | There is a simple solution to this. Stop making loser Clipper players throw out the first pitch. Let them do that with the Angels. The Angels, Ducks and Clippers need to hang together and unite. Leave the Dodgers, Kings and Lakers alone. |
Clippers are in a wierd situation...they wanted the LA market because their previous owner lived in Beverly Hills. Obviously the LA market is heavily in favor of the Lakers because of their winning tradition plus longer history in LA. On the other hand the city of Anaheim wanted the Clippers badly, even wanting to pay for improvements to the Anaheim Pond to lure them there. |
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999
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | There is a simple solution to this. Stop making loser Clipper players throw out the first pitch. Let them do that with the Angels. The Angels, Ducks and Clippers need to hang together and unite. Leave the Dodgers, Kings and Lakers alone. |
Clippers are in a weird situation...they wanted the LA market because their previous owner lived in Beverly Hills. Obviously the LA market is heavily in favor of the Lakers because of their winning tradition plus longer history in LA. On the other hand the city of Anaheim wanted the Clippers badly, even wanting to pay for improvements to the Anaheim Pond to lure them there. |
LA County vs Orange County. it wouldnt work too many laker fans in Orange County. Even when the Dodgers and Kings are not in contention and the ducks and angels are the fans would root for the angels/ducks because they are close to home. LA fans have respect for the angels and ducks in a way the Clippers will never get.
The current clippers dont deserve respect. In fact I wish all the misfortune on that team and organization. the sooner they pack up and leave LA the better. |
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venturalakersfan
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| VegasLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | Steve007 wrote: |
As for Staples, it isn't just the Lakers and Clippers using the stadium. The LA Kings use it. Even the LA Sparks use it. Should those teams move out too? |
The Kings are a professional hockey team, not a professional basketball team. It's an honor to share an arena with the Kings, much like it was at the Forum. The Lakers and Kings are kin, for it was the Kings that were responsible for getting both the Forum and Staples built.
The Sparks are kin, too.
The Lakers are the only team in the league that has to share its arena with another NBA team. It's cheesy.
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It is what the Lakers wanted. |
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I don't think they had a choice. Dr. Buss agreed to let the Kings out of their lease at the Forum, and then agreed to become a tenant at Staples. I never remember reading anything about the Lakers openly pursing or encouraging the Clippers to join them at Staples. |
Dr. Buss could have had a choice, |
Do you have a link to substantiate your claim or not? I'm thinking not.
Dr. Buss had already agreed to move to Staples by the time the Clippers slinked in. His only "choice" at that point would've been to back out, which would've been a disaster because it would've put the Lakers at a competitive disadvantage playing in a 30-year-old arena while those carpet-baggers got to play in a state-of-the-art facility.
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AEG were part owners of the Lakers, if the Lakers didn't want the Clippers there they wouldn't be. But Dr. Buss had no problem with Donald Sterling, with the Clippers or with other local teams being successful. And now that Staples is no longer state of the art, the Clippers are looking at building an arena that is. So some of you will likely get your wish in the future and watch the Clippers playing in an updated arena.
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| 999 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | There is a simple solution to this. Stop making loser Clipper players throw out the first pitch. Let them do that with the Angels. The Angels, Ducks and Clippers need to hang together and unite. Leave the Dodgers, Kings and Lakers alone. |
Clippers are in a weird situation...they wanted the LA market because their previous owner lived in Beverly Hills. Obviously the LA market is heavily in favor of the Lakers because of their winning tradition plus longer history in LA. On the other hand the city of Anaheim wanted the Clippers badly, even wanting to pay for improvements to the Anaheim Pond to lure them there. |
LA County vs Orange County. it wouldnt work too many laker fans in Orange County. Even when the Dodgers and Kings are not in contention and the ducks and angels are the fans would root for the angels/ducks because they are close to home. LA fans have respect for the angels and ducks in a way the Clippers will never get.
The current clippers dont deserve respect. In fact I wish all the misfortune on that team and organization. the sooner they pack up and leave LA the better. |
I can see why they wouldn't move even if they are 2nd fiddle.....The LA area has a couple million more people to draw from. They probably wouldn't commute to the OC if they moved. Also the Ducks and Angels have actually won something in their entire history, the Clippers on the other hand....nada. |
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Lakerfan 4 Life
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | 999 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | There is a simple solution to this. Stop making loser Clipper players throw out the first pitch. Let them do that with the Angels. The Angels, Ducks and Clippers need to hang together and unite. Leave the Dodgers, Kings and Lakers alone. |
Clippers are in a weird situation...they wanted the LA market because their previous owner lived in Beverly Hills. Obviously the LA market is heavily in favor of the Lakers because of their winning tradition plus longer history in LA. On the other hand the city of Anaheim wanted the Clippers badly, even wanting to pay for improvements to the Anaheim Pond to lure them there. |
LA County vs Orange County. it wouldnt work too many laker fans in Orange County. Even when the Dodgers and Kings are not in contention and the ducks and angels are the fans would root for the angels/ducks because they are close to home. LA fans have respect for the angels and ducks in a way the Clippers will never get.
The current clippers dont deserve respect. In fact I wish all the misfortune on that team and organization. the sooner they pack up and leave LA the better. |
I can see why they wouldn't move even if they are 2nd fiddle.....The LA area has a couple million more people to draw from. They probably wouldn't commute to the OC if they moved. Also the Ducks and Angels have actually won something in their entire history, the Clippers on the other hand....nada. |
Also, there are more Warriors fans and Bulls fans in So Cali than there are Clipper fans |
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| Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | 999 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | There is a simple solution to this. Stop making loser Clipper players throw out the first pitch. Let them do that with the Angels. The Angels, Ducks and Clippers need to hang together and unite. Leave the Dodgers, Kings and Lakers alone. |
Clippers are in a weird situation...they wanted the LA market because their previous owner lived in Beverly Hills. Obviously the LA market is heavily in favor of the Lakers because of their winning tradition plus longer history in LA. On the other hand the city of Anaheim wanted the Clippers badly, even wanting to pay for improvements to the Anaheim Pond to lure them there. |
LA County vs Orange County. it wouldnt work too many laker fans in Orange County. Even when the Dodgers and Kings are not in contention and the ducks and angels are the fans would root for the angels/ducks because they are close to home. LA fans have respect for the angels and ducks in a way the Clippers will never get.
The current clippers dont deserve respect. In fact I wish all the misfortune on that team and organization. the sooner they pack up and leave LA the better. |
I can see why they wouldn't move even if they are 2nd fiddle.....The LA area has a couple million more people to draw from. They probably wouldn't commute to the OC if they moved. Also the Ducks and Angels have actually won something in their entire history, the Clippers on the other hand....nada. |
Also, there are more Warriors fans and Bulls fans in So Cali than there are Clipper fans |
How many are there of each?
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numero-ocho
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Hmmm...I thought players only wrote articles for players tribune when they're on the verge of leaving. 
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999
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| numero-ocho wrote: | | Hmmm...I thought players only wrote articles for players tribune when they're on the verge of leaving. |
only one can hope and he can take his over animated owner with his crappy franchise with him up and out of LA |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | Steve007 wrote: |
As for Staples, it isn't just the Lakers and Clippers using the stadium. The LA Kings use it. Even the LA Sparks use it. Should those teams move out too? |
The Kings are a professional hockey team, not a professional basketball team. It's an honor to share an arena with the Kings, much like it was at the Forum. The Lakers and Kings are kin, for it was the Kings that were responsible for getting both the Forum and Staples built.
The Sparks are kin, too.
The Lakers are the only team in the league that has to share its arena with another NBA team. It's cheesy.
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It is what the Lakers wanted. |
Link?
I don't think they had a choice. Dr. Buss agreed to let the Kings out of their lease at the Forum, and then agreed to become a tenant at Staples. I never remember reading anything about the Lakers openly pursing or encouraging the Clippers to join them at Staples. |
Dr. Buss could have had a choice, |
Do you have a link to substantiate your claim or not? I'm thinking not.
Dr. Buss had already agreed to move to Staples by the time the Clippers slinked in. His only "choice" at that point would've been to back out, which would've been a disaster because it would've put the Lakers at a competitive disadvantage playing in a 30-year-old arena while those carpet-baggers got to play in a state-of-the-art facility.
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AEG were part owners of the Lakers, if the Lakers didn't want the Clippers there they wouldn't be. |
Yup, no link 
You'd have a decent point if the Lakers partially owned AEG rather than it being the other way around.
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And now that Staples is no longer state of the art, the Clippers are looking at building an arena that is. So some of you will likely get your wish in the future and watch the Clippers playing in an updated arena. |
Oh that would be so awesome! Staples Center, with it's huge footprint and prime location, can easily be gutted and rebuilt as many times as the Lakers and Kings need to in order to keep it state of the art. It'll likely never fall victim to the circumstances that killed off the previous generation of arenas - being physically too small to support all the suites, shops, restaurants and add-ons that modern arenas require.
Plus - location, location, location!
Hope the Clippers build their state-of-the-art arena in Boston, where they really belong. |
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I'm loving the loyalty Laker fans are showing at Chavez Ravine. Keep booing those weakass Clippers. 
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| I know its preseason, but wow......and they can't even blame it on the roster. |
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999
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| The clippers do not deserve any respect. Until each one of those players are traded or leave to a different team or if the clippers leave LA than And only than fans should treat them like human beings but until than the clippers should be treated like trash |
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