LAKERS -vs- WARRIORS – 10-15-16 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

[DancingBarry]

The JV… This was like the JV squad playing the varsity. The Lakers are just learning the sets the Warriors run. The Warriors defend those every day in practice, so are well-prepared to make proper defensive reads on the fly, not to mention our timing on our sets is nowhere near Golden State’s.

We gave up a 40-point first quarter and a 74-point first half. Sheesh. This game was over early. (Thanks for ruining the NBA, Kevin Durant?)

At least the timing for the youth movement is good for the Lakers. While the Warriors are going on their run, the young Lakers will be working on their game the next few years. And by then, hopefully, the JV moves up to the varsity level.

The game wasn’t as close as the 5-point difference showed. The Warriors went to their deep bench, and the Lakers chipped away at the score before finally falling 112-107.

“It was a good lesson for our guys,” Luke said. “The way the Warriors cut, how quick the ball moves from one man to the next, playing aggressive on the defensive end – these are all things we want to get better at.”

Russell -- -- “You could tell, they’ve got some chemistry together,” Russell said of the Warriors. He swished his first three, but couldn’t connect on his next several. The shot just wasn’t falling. He transitioned more into playmaking mode as the game went along and had some nice moments with that. That should only improve as the Lakers get better in their execution. Defensively, some moments where he was off in the team rotations. Better individual D in the second half. He’s going to be the focus for a lot of teams in their defensive plans. Some nights it won’t matter. But when his shot isn’t falling, there will certainly be tough nights until that vet consistency develops. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 3-10 shooting (1-6 from three, 1-2 from the line) to go with 5 assists, 4 turnovers, 2 steals, 1 block and 2 fouls in 28 minutes. He was a -17. The Action: He got backscreened and didn’t fight through to give up a layup (plenty of time to get through that). He swished a deep wing three off a swing pass. He missed a three after losing Curry on the pull-back dribble. He spotted an open man under the hoop but his pass was picked off. He missed an open three. He had the ball stolen trying to split a double team instead of hitting Randle (who is often a slow roller). Poor help D, late to get to Nance’s man and we gave up a dunk. He missed a step-back jumper up against the shotclock. He missed an open three in transition. He swished a wing jumper on iso over KD. He lost the dribble on a probe (he wanted the foul), turnover. He missed a 55-footer at the buzzer. Second Half: He hit Randle on the break for the layup. He hit Clarkson in the corner for three. He attacked the paint and sold FTs on the arm swing, he made one. He drew a foul fighting through the illegal screen to get a stop. He blocked a runner. Wow, sweet lob to Mozgov after losing his man with a high-speed, behind-the-back crossover. He missed a wide open wing jumper. Off on his wing three attempt. He setup Black for FTs in transition. He threw a no-looker behind Black (who never saw it coming, maybe with hands up he gets it). He cut baseline as Ingram attacked strong side, took the pass and reversed. He forced a turnover on the inbounds pass off that. He hit Nance for the open jumper. He found Nick for the three.

Clarkson -- -- “We took some steps back, but in the second half we made it up,” Clarkson said. Luke said Clarkson has been their best perimeter defender this preseason. They put him in the starting unit with Lou resting and welcomed him to defend Klay (who then lit us up for 24 points on 13 shots in the first half as he’s able to do). The Lakers offense got into some shotclock issues and Clarkson was forced to chuck a little trying to avoid a violation, you can chalk up at least 3 misses to that so the stats might be a little deceptive. He played a little PG tonight in the fourth briefly, then we put the ball in Ingram’s hands to set up the offense. Luke didn’t think it was a great game from Clarkson but said it was a small sample size. We need to get a lot more minutes for him with that unit. I suspect even if Clarkson does or does not start, he will be finishing games. So they need to work on that chemistry, which wasn’t there yet. The Stats: He scored 15 points on 4-14 shooting (3-9 from three, 4-4 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 1 assist, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 30 minutes. He was a -12. The Action: He missed a deep heave up against the shotclock. He didn’t boxout a big and gave up a putback. He missed a drive to his right. He was forced into a long heave from three again up against the shotclock. He missed a wing three. He missed an open three behind a screen on the weakside (nice play). He probed off the screen and drew FTs in the lane, he made both. Quick first step past Klay and he scored a layup. Not close on a pull-up baseline jumper. He got a switch and swished the wing three. Second Half: He missed an off-balance jumper in the lane. Nice effort to deflect a backdoor pass. He swished an open corner jumper. He missed a baseline fade, tough shot, we got it back and he sank a corner three. He missed a three. He pushed out the break and drew FTs at the rim, he made both. He threw a perimeter pass away when the passing lane was overplayed. He got backdoored for a layup. He missed another tough heave against the shotclock, getting this one to hit the rim for a Lakers recovery and score. Not close on a wide open baseline jumper down 7, uggh.

Randle -- -- “We took some steps back with how we established the way we were going to play,” Randle said. “…Compared to last year, we’ve got to address it. When we see it, we’ve got to step up and lead and say something.” I’d like him to be a vocal leader. He wants everyone to hold each other accountable, which is good. He needs that himself a lot. He’s done a good job moving the ball. His screen setting has improved, but it’s still sloppy and the rolls are slow to develop at times. The Stats: He scored 5 points on 2-5 shooting (1-2 from the line) to go with 7 boards, 2 assists, 3 turnovers, 3 steals and 3 fouls in 24 minutes. He was a -25. The Action: He missed a pull-up jumper. He missed a wide open 20-footer (I’d rather, he just step back further and take the three). He spun left and missed a jumphook over a double team. Second Half: He pushed out the ball and was called for a clear-out as he tried to finish. He threw a pass into the backcourt, turnover. Good rotation on D on one end, and Russell found him for the layup on the other. He jumped a passing lane for a steal (more please). He deflected a pass to get a stop. He grabbed a rebound, pushed it out with speed, split defenders and jammed with both hands (his play of the night). Sloppy dribble handoff, turnover. He turned the corner on his man going to his right and powered his way to FT at the rim, he made one.

Deng -- -- “It’s got to be a team effort,” Deng said of the Lakers D. He said everyone is buying in on both ends of the floor, but they’ve got quite a bit to learn. “We’ll get to a point where we are running it without thinking twice.” He struggled a little with the shot as we got him some good looks you’d like to see go down. The Lakers have a lot of depth with Ingram and Young to fill in behind him and they did tonight with some of their better play of the preseason. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-7 shooting to go with 2 boards and no fouls in 19 minutes. He was a -20. The Action: He attacked off the dribble, drew contact and missed the drive. He sank a baseline pull-up jumper. He missed a turnaround in the post. He was fouled after pulling down an offensive board to regain possession. He missed a pull-up wing jumper in early offense. He missed an open corner three. Second Half: He missed a wing three in transition. He missed a wing jumper.

Mozgov -- -- I loved the lob pass from Russell to Mozgov in this one. That’s one area I’ve felt Russell has been pretty poor at recognizing, and I thought Mozgov would be the guy teaching him to look for it. IT’s been slow developing (Lou has had better chemistry), but the more they play together, the more we’ll see that. While he had a quality game out there, I think Timofey’s good for at least one bad pass per outing. That’s always sticking out to me. The Stats: He scored 10 points on 3-5 shooting (4-4 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 1 assist, 2 turnovers, 2 steal, 1 block and 5 foul sin 22 minutes. He was a -25. The Action: He backed Zaza down and scored the lefty jumphook. He got a putback jam taken away for interference (very close). He swished an open baseline jumper off the kickout. He iso’d out of a timeout and drew FTs in the post, he made both. He was blocked by the help D after a nice step-through. He was fouled on the post entry pass, he made both FTs. Second Half: He missed a baseline jumper. Nice challenge at the rim, but he couldn’t control it, tapping the miss to the Warriors. He dunked off the lob from Russell, who broke down the D. Tough feed to Russell cutting, turnover.

Ingram -- -- Getting better by the game. I’ve said the last couple of games you could see his offense becoming just a bit more comfortable out there. It’s still a fast game for him, but he started to resemble himself more tonight. The perimeter shot was dropping. He attacked the paint with the speed. He moved the ball well and set teammates up for scores. That well-rounded game was on display. Luke even had him bringing the ball up court late in the game as point forward for several straight possessions. “We just fell short, but we competed,” Ingram said. The Stats: He scored 12 points on 3-6 shooting (2-2 from three, 4-6 from the line) to go with 3 assists, 1 block and 1 foul in 26 minutes. He was a +11. The Action: He attacked Livingston aggressively and drew FTs, he made one. He sank a corner three on a kickout. He swished a long, open jumper from the left side (college three range), when Black kicked out to him. He was blocked by Durant trying to finish at the rim (probably an arm foul). He missed a long wing jumper, hit in the body with no call. Second Half: He recovered on his man to block him from behind. He got his man on his hip after a screen, attacked and drew FTs at the rim, he made one. He attacked strong side and spotted Russell cutting baseline weakside for the layup. He drained the open sideline three at the buzzer. Nice extra feed to Clarkson for the three. He got a switch on the split and drew FTs, he made both. He crossed over, attacked the lane and couldn’t finish but the Lakers drew FTs on the board.

Nance -- -- His energy was better tonight, just a lot more disruptive on D. You can tell by the size of the notes here just how active he was. When I see that, I know he’s active and engaged. I think he has to play aggressive on that end of the floor instead of hanging back. He’s got the length and athleticism to cause problems when he presses the issue. Offensively, some great screens. Typically, when someone gets really nailed by a screen, it seems to be Nance the most consistently doing that. The jumper looked great as he hit several from outside. The Lakers really need that from him. It just makes the game easier for everyone. When we were outplaying their bench tonight, it really started with Nance’s on that defensive end and those 4 steals. The Stats: He scored 9 points on 4-7 shooting (1-2 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 1 assists, 4 steals, 1 block and 1 foul in 16 minutes. He was a +11. The Action: He missed a turnaround in the post against a smaller man. He drew FTs getting run into on the horns sequence, he made one. He missed a floater on the baseline. He slammed back down a Huertas miss. He jumped a passing lane to swipe the ball. Second Half: He knocked a perimeter pass away and tracked it down to ignite the break. He sank the open jumper from the top of the key when Russell found him off the two-man game. He sank another one next time down off the same play, but with the pass coming back from Black. He knocked another pass loose. He missed an open jumper. He jab-stepped and sank the 17-footer straight away. Nice job icing the screen and he forced the guard into a travel. He blocked a perimeter jumper.

Zubac -- -- Some late game run going up against JaVale. Good minutes. He didn’t really get a chance to challenge shots or lock down on D, but he positioned himself pretty well and secured the glass. He sank a baseline jumper as his only make. I’d love to see the team use him more to space the floor for those midrange J’s. They looked automatic during the summer. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-2 shooting to go with 3 boards, 1 assist and no fouls in 8:37. He was a +12. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He kept an offensive board alive and it led to a three. He sank a baseline jumper. He missed a baseline hook.

Young -- -- One of the bright spots on the night, Nick nailed several of his first attempts. The offense doesn’t have to execute particularly well if he’s got it going. Regardless, he’s looked good in some of the sets and we are purposely calling his number off loops, elevator plays and down screens to free him up. He’s playing both ends of the floor really well and is one of the better stories of the preseason. We didn’t really know what we’d get from Nick chemistry wise, but Luke has his attention right now. The Stats: He scored 17 points on 6-9 shooting (3-6 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 1 board, 1 assist, 1 turnover, 1 steal and 4 fouls in 18 minutes. He was a +7. The Action: He sank a pull-up coming off the down screen. Nice curl off the loop into the lane, he tried to give it up, it came back to him and he swished the short jumper. He swished a deep three off the dribble handoff. Nice challenge on Durant who banked the three. He posted up and sank the turnaround. Poor read of the help D coming to swipe his post entry pass. Second Half: He lost his man behind a screen and swished the deep three. He missed a three going to his left. He missed a three off the elevator screens. He was fouled in the backcourt for FTs, he made both. He swished a wing three. Nice extra pass to Ingram at the buzzer for the three. He missed a wing three. He swiped a pass on D.

Black -- -- Excellent game from Tarik. Good to see his energy back on the second unit. He was drawing fouls crashing the offensive glass. The Lakers got a combined 20-points on 6-10 shooting and 13 boards from their C spot tonight. Those are respectable numbers considering they aren’t going to be a primary point of attack. Loved seeing him set part of the screen on the elevator play, then crash the glass to get the score off the miss. You don’t have to be a primary point of attack or have the play drawn up for you to make an impact. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 2-3 shooting (4-6 from the line) to go with 6 boards (4 offensive), 3 assists and 1 foul in 17 minutes. He was a +8. The Action: He was hacked after pulling down an offensive board, he made both FTs. He drew more FTs getting fouled on the offensive glass, he made one. He spun baseline and kicked out to an open Ingram for the jumper (very nice read). He passed on the elbow jumper, attacked a crowd and missed. Second Half: He was fouled in transition, he made one. He took out a man on the elevator screen play, crashed the glass, got the miss and scored over his man. He up-faked at the elbow, attacked and scored over a man (probably should have used his left on the finish).

Brown -- -- Short minutes but better from him. He was able to scratch a couple points off following his own miss and he drew an offensive foul on his man on the other end. That’s at least some posotove production vs. just floating around out there like we see a lot of. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 1-3 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 1 board and 2 fouls in 7 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He missed a leaner at the FT line, he followed it and scored the putback. He missed a baseline leaner. He drew FTs on the perimeter and made both. He got a clear-out foul on his man.

Robinson -- -- Good job -- no great job -- crashing the glass tonight. He regained possessions on several trips down the floor (better than even the 3 offensive boards indicate). The Lakers were killing the Warriors in the fourth on the offensive glass and that really brought them back within striking distance. The Stats: He scored 7 points on 2-3 shooting (3-3 from the line) to go with 4 boards in 7 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He drew a foul crashing the glass. He was blocked badly on a layup attempt. He drew another foul on the glass to regain possession. He grabbed an offensive board and put it back in. He scored an And-1 on the putback and made the FT to cut it to 7. Another crash on the Ingram drive and he drew FTs, he made both to cut it to 5.

Huertas -- -- “We’re still trying to find our identity,” Huertas said, but said the team is building it. Calderon rested with a strained calf. From the sounds of it, if they are looking for more playmaking, Huertas will be the man. If they want more floor spacing, it’s Calderon at the backup spot and Luke will choose as he needs. A lot of runners from Huertas as they made him a shooter. Between Russell and Huertas, they had 8 assists and 8 turnovers. He said he and Calderon are trying to help Russell read different situations and teach when they can. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 3-10 shooting (0-2 from three) to go with 4 boards, 3 assists, 4 turnovers and no fouls in 16 minutes. He was a +7. The Action: Dumb pass trying to force it to Mozgov in the high post when Huertas’s defender sagged off, turnover, points the other way. He missed an open three. Mustard off the hotdog as he tried to go between his legs on the break and it was nearly picked off. He sank a runner off the screen. He missed a runner, looking to pass. He missed a baseline runner. He was blocked on the break. Second Half: He missed the floater in the lane. He sank the open 15-footer. He swished the floater off the dribble handoff. He missed a 5-footer. He missed a three.

Walton -- -- Up against his former team. Prior to the game, Luke was asked what was the most important thing he was bringing over from the Warriors. He said culture, which in turn gets reflected in putting in hard work and playing the right way on both ends… The Warriors were without Green, West or Iguodala. The Lakers rested Williams, and Luke moved Clarkson into the starting SG… The Lakers trailed 23-9 midway through the quarter. Warriors scoring with ease… Ingram in for Deng midway through the quarter… Down 15, Russell out for Huertas… Young in for Clarkson… Mozgov out for Black, down 17… Nance for Randle with 4 minutes left… The Lakers trailed 40-25 after the first quarter… He went with the Black, Nance, Ingram, Young, Huertas lineup to start the quarter. Kind of crazy seeing them go up against a KD/Klay-led second unit. Massive talent difference… Russell, Clarkson, Randle in… Deng, then Mozgov back in, Lakers down 19… The Lakers trailed 74-47 at the half. They made 4-14 from three… The Warriors rested the Splash Bro’s to start the half, but kept Durant out there to gain experience in their system… Russell distributing more to start the half. Ingram in for Deng, midway through the quarter… Young in for Clarkson… Good close the quarter by this unit as Russell set the table offensively and Nance was disruptive on D… The Lakers trailed 96-79 heading to the fourth… He brought in Huertas for Russell… Down 17, he brought in Zubac with 8:36 left… So Zubac, Nance, Ingram, Clarkson, Huertas now… Robinson and Brown in for Ingram and Nance, so that didn’t last long… Ingram back in for Huertas as we went with Clarkson at PG for the first time this preseason. Actually, they started letting Ingram bring the ball up court every play… They trimmed it to 7 with over a minute left… Luke will have plenty of tape to show the team, especially from the Warriors…

[Laker's Fan]

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Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.

[pjiddy]

Thanks, DB!

[SweetP]

Thanks DB.
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[tox]

Thanks DB! Missed the game again, but between your posts and GT's videos, I feel like I take away more from games I missed than I did this time last year while actually watching the entire games through

[Inspector Gadget]

Thanks DB.

Getting more Impressed with Moz, has really nice offensive skills.

Hopefully we play the Warriors better on Tuesday.

[Mation]

Thanks DB!

[AFireInside619]

Thanks DB!

[OregonLakerGuy]

Thanks DB

[RI Laker]

Great job as always DB. Also, great perspective that we all have to keep in mind:

"The JV… [b]This was like the JV squad playing the varsity[/b]. The Lakers are just learning the sets the Warriors run. The Warriors defend those every day in practice, so are well-prepared to make proper defensive reads on the fly, not to mention our timing on our sets is nowhere near Golden State’s.

We gave up a 40-point first quarter and a 74-point first half. Sheesh. This game was over early. (Thanks for ruining the NBA, Kevin Durant?)

At least the timing for the youth movement is good for the Lakers. While the Warriors are going on their run, the young Lakers will be working on their game the next few years. And by then, hopefully, the JV moves up to the varsity level.

Hopefully, Luke gives the minutes to our pups.

[smoothazsilk]

" the young Lakers will be working on their game the next few years. And by then, hopefully, the JV moves up to the varsity level. "

From what I'm seeing its going to take longer than a few years. Need better
talent

[Halflife]

Great learning experience. Great.

[Lakers#1Team]

Thanks DB!

[TooMuchMajicBuss]

Missed the game - Thanks DB for putting this together!

Looks like the improving comfort level I thought I saw in Brandon Ingram's offense was not an illusion. Double figures, 12 points on 6 shots, that's pretty solid. I can just imagine where he'll be at come April, or 2 years from now for that matter. We've all seen the impact he's had on defense right from from day 1. Good on BI.

Big break before the next game; it'll be interesting to see what the Lakers work on.

Thanks again -

[LakersMDGurl]

What i recognize about Russell is he takes a step back when playing against elite PGs. Playing against nobodys he just shoots lights out. He needs to get that killer instinct when the big name players roll into town. This is what Kobe feasted on. I used to get pissed because Kobe totally ignored players with "no names". They in turn would burn us for career highs all game.
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Thanks DB!

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[Inspector Gadget]

I recognize that the Warriors are more talented then the Lakers.

[Shaber]

Lakers were schooled.
It will be interesting to see if they can learn.
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Lakers depth chart

PG Johnson / Goodrich
SG Bryant / West / Scott
SF Baylor / Worthy / Cooper
PF Mikkelsen / Hairston / McAdoo / Gasol
C Chamberlain / Abdul-Jabbar / O'Neal / Mikan

[Laker's Fan]

I like the fact that there are a number of days between games against Golden St. Don't expect some major improvement but hopefully the team is using this as a learning experience.
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