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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:24 am    Post subject:

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I think he may have won the starting spot tonight.


You stop watching at halftime?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:05 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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Nance > Randle and he deserves more minutes. I would even start him if I were Luke.


you might be able to argue that from a play style point of view (which I think will be more and more difficult as time goes on and Randle gets more consistent), but he certainly hasn't outplayed Randle in this preseason so far.

Nance has been pretty invisible for the last 3-4 games. He along with Julius was pretty bad against the Ws on Saturday until their deep bench came in in garbage time.


The people that want him to start went deafly silent when he wasn't making much of an impact for a few straight games only to reappear again when Nance had a good one again.


Exactly, and to me he didn't even have a good game. He didn't start to play better until the game was essentially over lol.

I want Julius & Nance both to be successful to give the best chance of winning.


Yes, they will likely be our PF combination for years, so we need both to be successful.


That's a great sentiment, but its always made without deference to the realities of the finances.

I don't believe many who share it have thought out its long term implications
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:46 am    Post subject:

I don't see an issue with long term finances
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:16 am    Post subject:

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Anyone have Nance stats on 15 feet and outside? He seems to be hitting at a high rate


44.4% (15-19 feet).

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*LAL&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Pre%20Season

Excluding heaves I think he shot well enough behind the arc too.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:22 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
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Anyone have Nance stats on 15 feet and outside? He seems to be hitting at a high rate


44.4% (15-19 feet).

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*LAL&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Pre%20Season

Excluding heaves I think he shot well enough behind the arc too.


Good stuff. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:10 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
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Anyone have Nance stats on 15 feet and outside? He seems to be hitting at a high rate


44.4% (15-19 feet).

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*LAL&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Pre%20Season

Excluding heaves I think he shot well enough behind the arc too.


Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:29 pm    Post subject:

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Nance > Randle and he deserves more minutes. I would even start him if I were Luke.
He should but he won't.


No he won't because he knows that what Randle can bring is much more than what Nance can bring. Nance is a poor rebounder for a big, and Mozgov is as well. We would be out rebounded like crazy if those two were in together. Nance is a much better fit with Black in the second unit.
Nance is a better defender and shooter and he fits more with Russell and Clarkson.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject:

Nance only averaged 18.1 minutes per game this preseason. He needs way more burn in the regular season. We'll see it, too, since the main spots we're considering the training camp invites at are 4-5.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:13 pm    Post subject:

Until the last couple games Randle was outplaying Nance. I'll be satisfied watching both develop
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:48 pm    Post subject:

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Nance said that he’d like to see the team put together a top-15 defense this year and that he personally is feeling much better after struggling with knee issues last year.

He claims that he has recovered enough this preseason to finally jump off his right leg for the first time in three years.


http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/161022-practice-report?cid=tw

so you telling me this man been baptizing people and his power level wasn't even over 9000 yet
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Nance said that he’d like to see the team put together a top-15 defense this year and that he personally is feeling much better after struggling with knee issues last year.

He claims that he has recovered enough this preseason to finally jump off his right leg for the first time in three years.


http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/161022-practice-report?cid=tw

so you telling me this man been baptizing people and his power level wasn't even over 9000 yet


Left engine was running at 1000%.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:50 am    Post subject:

Great game by Larry. He did things that don't show up in the stat column, but are crucial to us winning.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:09 am    Post subject:

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Great game by Larry. He did things that don't show up in the stat column, but are crucial to us winning.


AGREED!!
This kid comes to play every night. He does all the little things that a team needs in order to succeed.

He's the consummate team player and he played well last night once again.

5 point, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal and solid defense and hustle 100% of the time. Not to mention several near POSTERS!
I love watching this kid play.

He's a great role model on and off the court too.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:16 am    Post subject:

Larry had a solid game last night but I counted about three open threes he totally passed up on. He's a good enough shooter to knock those down!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:15 am    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
Larry had a solid game last night but I counted about three open threes he totally passed up on. He's a good enough shooter to knock those down!


yup, Walton even mentioned in his post-game media conference that he thought Nance passed up some open 3's that he wanted him to take
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:25 am    Post subject:

Solid game from Nance, that bench unit played well.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:31 am    Post subject:

Coach Nick posted a video on Nance Jr from last night, and said that he thinks Larry is the best player on the team.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:35 am    Post subject:

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Coach Nick posted a video on Nance Jr from last night, and said that he thinks Larry is the best player on the team.
I would disagree with best player on the team but he is an invaluable part of our squad. He does a little bit of everything. He's that dude.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:51 am    Post subject:

He became my favorite Laker last season. He's been doing those things in Coach Nick's video since day 1 in the league. I love watching him play. He understands the subtle parts of the game that star players don't see.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:52 am    Post subject:

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Larry had a solid game last night but I counted about three open threes he totally passed up on. He's a good enough shooter to knock those down!


yup, Walton even mentioned in his post-game media conference that he thought Nance passed up some open 3's that he wanted him to take

This is Nance's first season really being a 3pt shooter, and tonight was the first real game.
I'd expect he had a little case of nerves, and after a week or two won't be hesitating as much
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:57 am    Post subject:

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He became my favorite Laker last season. He's been doing those things in Coach Nick's video since day 1 in the league. I love watching him play. He understands the subtle parts of the game that star players don't see.


This

The stat he fills most games is a plus in the +/- column
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:02 am    Post subject:

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Coach Nick posted a video on Nance Jr from last night, and said that he thinks Larry is the best player on the team.


Great video. Alot of stuff I was unaware of.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:22 am    Post subject:

Russell1 wrote:
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Coach Nick posted a video on Nance Jr from last night, and said that he thinks Larry is the best player on the team.


Great video. Alot of stuff I was unaware of.


Great analysis in that video although I think Coach Nick is getting carried away with calling Nance the best player on the team.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:39 am    Post subject:

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The Logo wrote:
Coach Nick posted a video on Nance Jr from last night, and said that he thinks Larry is the best player on the team.


Great video. Alot of stuff I was unaware of.


Great analysis in that video although I think Coach Nick is getting carried away with calling Nance the best player on the team.

Same, but it's encouraging that people outside of the fanbase are starting to notice the little things that Nance does.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
Larry had a solid game last night but I counted about three open threes he totally passed up on. He's a good enough shooter to knock those down!
Agreed, he's got to take those open threes. His feel for the game though is off the charts, he does the little things at an elite level. I think he's a borderline elite defender already. When his three point shot becomes more consistent, he's going to start resembling Draymond Green.
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