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Dennis Schroeder gets a 4 year, 70m extension.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dennis Schroeder gets a 4 year, 70m extension. |
That's a bargain. He should have a break out season. Mike called this guy being a steal before he was draft and he was correct.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dennis Schroeder gets a 4 year, 70m extension. |
That's a bargain. He should have a break out season. Mike called this guy being a steal before he was draft and he was correct. |
I admit I have not watched much Hawks bball, but what little I did see, I thought he did a poor job at running the team. He did some things better individually than Teague, but I thought Teague ran the offense much better. Again, that is observation of maybe 3 or 4 games, and not any type of educated claim. |
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dennis Schroeder gets a 4 year, 70m extension. |
That's a bargain. He should have a break out season. Mike called this guy being a steal before he was draft and he was correct. |
I'm 50/50 on him because he was so wildly inconsistent. He could break out, or he could underwhelm, and I wouldn't be surprised at either.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dennis Schroeder gets a 4 year, 70m extension. |
That's a bargain. He should have a break out season. Mike called this guy being a steal before he was draft and he was correct. |
I'm 50/50 on him because he was so wildly inconsistent. He could break out, or he could underwhelm, and I wouldn't be surprised at either. |
Agreed.
Fun stat of night, Roy Hibbert with 15/9/3 and 5 blocks with the game still in progress  Did he ever have a game as good as that last season?
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dennis Schroeder gets a 4 year, 70m extension. |
That's a bargain. He should have a break out season. Mike called this guy being a steal before he was draft and he was correct. |
I'm 50/50 on him because he was so wildly inconsistent. He could break out, or he could underwhelm, and I wouldn't be surprised at either. |
Agreed.
Fun stat of night, Roy Hibbert with 15/9/3 and 5 blocks with the game still in progress Did he ever have a game as good as that last season? |
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Given our team's concept and JC being 6th man, how amazing would Kent Bazemore have been as our starting SG?
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Next year's SG FAs aren't that impressive.
Afflalo
Thabo
Livingston
Reddick
Interesting RFAs:
Norman Powell
Josh Richardson
IIRC, they would possibly be Arenas RFAs?
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Next year's SG FAs aren't that impressive.
Afflalo
Thabo
Livingston
Reddick
Interesting RFAs:
Norman Powell
Josh Richardson
IIRC, they would possibly be Arenas RFAs? |
Unless there's a change in the new CBA, yes. |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Next year's SG FAs aren't that impressive.
Afflalo
Thabo
Livingston
Reddick
Interesting RFAs:
Norman Powell
Josh Richardson
IIRC, they would possibly be Arenas RFAs? |
Unless there's a change in the new CBA, yes. |
I think Toronto would be an interesting team to put a lot of pressure on. Lowry is also a FA next summer and will be demanding probably 27-30m/year. Powell would be a nice fit here.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Next year's SG FAs aren't that impressive.
Afflalo
Thabo
Livingston
Reddick
Interesting RFAs:
Norman Powell
Josh Richardson
IIRC, they would possibly be Arenas RFAs? |
Unless there's a change in the new CBA, yes. |
I think Toronto would be an interesting team to put a lot of pressure on. Lowry is also a FA next summer and will be demanding probably 27-30m/year. Powell would be a nice fit here. |
Powell is a nice young player he's pretty much everything Toronto hoped Ross would be. Richardson I'm intrigued with but I'd wait and see how he plays after his injury and even then Miami will still probably resign him |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Given our team's concept and JC being 6th man, how amazing would Kent Bazemore have been as our starting SG? |
We had to sacrifice some good role players/starters to tank for DLO and Ingram, its worth the cost even if they would have really flourished under Luke. Would I like guys like Lin/Bazemore/Davis over the guys they signed in those dark years like Lou and Nick, very much so. |
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| bandiger wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Given our team's concept and JC being 6th man, how amazing would Kent Bazemore have been as our starting SG? |
We had to sacrifice some good role players/starters to tank for DLO and Ingram, its worth the cost even if they would have really flourished under Luke. Would I like guys like Lin/Bazemore/Davis over the guys they signed in those dark years like Lou and Nick, very much so. |
I'm talking about when he was a FA this summer. We offered him Deng's deal first which he turned down.
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| The Logo wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Next year's SG FAs aren't that impressive.
Afflalo
Thabo
Livingston
Reddick
Interesting RFAs:
Norman Powell
Josh Richardson
IIRC, they would possibly be Arenas RFAs? |
Unless there's a change in the new CBA, yes. |
I think Toronto would be an interesting team to put a lot of pressure on. Lowry is also a FA next summer and will be demanding probably 27-30m/year. Powell would be a nice fit here. |
Powell is a nice young player he's pretty much everything Toronto hoped Ross would be. Richardson I'm intrigued with but I'd wait and see how he plays after his injury and even then Miami will still probably resign him |
What about Tony Allen? He is an UFA next year right? Although he is old but he could teach and play defense for our team.
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| yuurin98 wrote: | | The Logo wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Next year's SG FAs aren't that impressive.
Afflalo
Thabo
Livingston
Reddick
Interesting RFAs:
Norman Powell
Josh Richardson
IIRC, they would possibly be Arenas RFAs? |
Unless there's a change in the new CBA, yes. |
I think Toronto would be an interesting team to put a lot of pressure on. Lowry is also a FA next summer and will be demanding probably 27-30m/year. Powell would be a nice fit here. |
Powell is a nice young player he's pretty much everything Toronto hoped Ross would be. Richardson I'm intrigued with but I'd wait and see how he plays after his injury and even then Miami will still probably resign him |
What about Tony Allen? He is an UFA next year right? Although he is old but he could teach and play defense for our team. |
Nah. Don't want non-shooters. Really mucks up Luke's system.
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Of course we will need help and stars are always welcomed via trade, but conceptually, I see that we are somewhat ok in the following positions:
Starting PG: DLO
Backup PG: Looks like JC will run both guard spots
Starting SG: will need to upgrade via trade/FA
SF: Hopefully Ingram by next summer, but we are well stocked with Ingram/Deng.
PF: I think we're ok with Randle/Nance.
C: Moz/Black, with Zubac developing.
It appears our biggest FA needs are:
1. starting 3/D SG, could be a nominal starter who plays 20-24 mpg with JC finishing with DLO.
2. backup PG.
I think those are our major areas of concern.
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If Clarkson is going to be a sixth-man a starting SG will be needed next season which could be through free agency or in the draft if the Lakers get a top three draft pick. But if the Lakers did get a top three draft pick whoever they draft might not be a starter straight away just look at how Ingram isn't starting. Unless the Lakers could take on a expiring contract near the trade deadline or trade someone like Young (if he keeps this form up) or Lou Williams but I'm doubtful about trading one of them two.
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| Dilla_ wrote: | | If Clarkson is going to be a sixth-man a starting SG will be needed next season which could be through free agency or in the draft if the Lakers get a top three draft pick. But if the Lakers did get a top three draft pick whoever they draft might not be a starter straight away just look at how Ingram isn't starting. Unless the Lakers could take on a expiring contract near the trade deadline or trade someone like Young (if he keeps this form up) or Lou Williams but I'm doubtful about trading one of them two. |
If we end up with a top 3 pick, I think the team trades that pick or others. Too many young guys IMO. These top picks take time to grow and as we are seeing with a talent like DLO, it takes a few years, time which the FO doesn't seem to have.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dilla_ wrote: | | If Clarkson is going to be a sixth-man a starting SG will be needed next season which could be through free agency or in the draft if the Lakers get a top three draft pick. But if the Lakers did get a top three draft pick whoever they draft might not be a starter straight away just look at how Ingram isn't starting. Unless the Lakers could take on a expiring contract near the trade deadline or trade someone like Young (if he keeps this form up) or Lou Williams but I'm doubtful about trading one of them two. |
If we end up with a top 3 pick, I think the team trades that pick or others. Too many young guys IMO. These top picks take time to grow and as we are seeing with a talent like DLO, it takes a few years, time which the FO doesn't seem to have. |
You might be right, from what I've read this season's draft is meant to be much better than last season's.
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| Dilla_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dilla_ wrote: | | If Clarkson is going to be a sixth-man a starting SG will be needed next season which could be through free agency or in the draft if the Lakers get a top three draft pick. But if the Lakers did get a top three draft pick whoever they draft might not be a starter straight away just look at how Ingram isn't starting. Unless the Lakers could take on a expiring contract near the trade deadline or trade someone like Young (if he keeps this form up) or Lou Williams but I'm doubtful about trading one of them two. |
If we end up with a top 3 pick, I think the team trades that pick or others. Too many young guys IMO. These top picks take time to grow and as we are seeing with a talent like DLO, it takes a few years, time which the FO doesn't seem to have. |
You might be right, from what I've read this season's draft is meant to be much better than last season's. |
In theory it sounds nice to add another 19 year old, but that pick may be used to get a veteran. What if PG13 and the Pacers don't work out an extension, etc.
Would be an amazing trade chip to get a bona fide star.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dilla_ wrote: | | If Clarkson is going to be a sixth-man a starting SG will be needed next season which could be through free agency or in the draft if the Lakers get a top three draft pick. But if the Lakers did get a top three draft pick whoever they draft might not be a starter straight away just look at how Ingram isn't starting. Unless the Lakers could take on a expiring contract near the trade deadline or trade someone like Young (if he keeps this form up) or Lou Williams but I'm doubtful about trading one of them two. |
If we end up with a top 3 pick, I think the team trades that pick or others. Too many young guys IMO. These top picks take time to grow and as we are seeing with a talent like DLO, it takes a few years, time which the FO doesn't seem to have. |
It really depends on the prospects themselves. This draft is supposed to be a huge improvement from last one and if at least 1-3 of them are players that are ready to contribute from day 1, while having that "all time great" potentials like DLO and Ingram do, then it would most definitely be worth to grow on. You can never have too much talent.
Of course, if the deals were to involve guys like Paul George, Anthony Davis, etc, then that's a whole different story.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dilla_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dilla_ wrote: | | If Clarkson is going to be a sixth-man a starting SG will be needed next season which could be through free agency or in the draft if the Lakers get a top three draft pick. But if the Lakers did get a top three draft pick whoever they draft might not be a starter straight away just look at how Ingram isn't starting. Unless the Lakers could take on a expiring contract near the trade deadline or trade someone like Young (if he keeps this form up) or Lou Williams but I'm doubtful about trading one of them two. |
If we end up with a top 3 pick, I think the team trades that pick or others. Too many young guys IMO. These top picks take time to grow and as we are seeing with a talent like DLO, it takes a few years, time which the FO doesn't seem to have. |
You might be right, from what I've read this season's draft is meant to be much better than last season's. |
In theory it sounds nice to add another 19 year old, but that pick may be used to get a veteran. What if PG13 and the Pacers don't work out an extension, etc.
Would be an amazing trade chip to get a bona fide star. |
I remember saying that about the Ingram pick. Now I'd be legitimately pissed off if we traded him for anything |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dilla_ wrote: | | If Clarkson is going to be a sixth-man a starting SG will be needed next season which could be through free agency or in the draft if the Lakers get a top three draft pick. But if the Lakers did get a top three draft pick whoever they draft might not be a starter straight away just look at how Ingram isn't starting. Unless the Lakers could take on a expiring contract near the trade deadline or trade someone like Young (if he keeps this form up) or Lou Williams but I'm doubtful about trading one of them two. |
If we end up with a top 3 pick, I think the team trades that pick or others. Too many young guys IMO. These top picks take time to grow and as we are seeing with a talent like DLO, it takes a few years, time which the FO doesn't seem to have. |
That's easy to say now, but it's often hard to find equal value for a top 3 pick. Unless it's for Butler, PG13 or Cousins, what would you have in mind?
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| tox wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dilla_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Dilla_ wrote: | | If Clarkson is going to be a sixth-man a starting SG will be needed next season which could be through free agency or in the draft if the Lakers get a top three draft pick. But if the Lakers did get a top three draft pick whoever they draft might not be a starter straight away just look at how Ingram isn't starting. Unless the Lakers could take on a expiring contract near the trade deadline or trade someone like Young (if he keeps this form up) or Lou Williams but I'm doubtful about trading one of them two. |
If we end up with a top 3 pick, I think the team trades that pick or others. Too many young guys IMO. These top picks take time to grow and as we are seeing with a talent like DLO, it takes a few years, time which the FO doesn't seem to have. |
You might be right, from what I've read this season's draft is meant to be much better than last season's. |
In theory it sounds nice to add another 19 year old, but that pick may be used to get a veteran. What if PG13 and the Pacers don't work out an extension, etc.
Would be an amazing trade chip to get a bona fide star. |
I remember saying that about the Ingram pick. Now I'd be legitimately pissed off if we traded him for anything |
Yeah, but we have a young core that will be on the cusp of starting to do things (DLO, Ingram, JC, Randle, Nance). The thought of another 19 year old having to be groomed may lead them to trade for a more established all-star level player to a team that may be losing said player to FA soon.
Rebuilding is rough, and no matter how good the prospect is, it takes years to develop them. Why not trade one project for an NBA ready vet?
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Also comes down to how NBA ready that prospect. With that said, I don't see any elite prospects ready to step in from day one, atleast not now
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