Luke mentioned in his post game press-conference he thought Nance Jr should have shot that three-pointer which he didn't attempt sometimes he needs to be a bit more selfish. _________________ Coach MWP.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
Said this during the Rockets game but he seemed unhappy a few times with Clarkson. Slumped his shoulders and had his hands out when Clarkson didn't find him. _________________ Go LA!
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
Said this during the Rockets game but he seemed unhappy a few times with Clarkson. Slumped his shoulders and had his hands out when Clarkson didn't find him.
Yeah I've been questioning his attitude since about the 3rd preseason game. Something happened and I'm not sure what but hopefully he can get his head back into the game. He's one of my favorite lakers and I want him around for years to come.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
That's on Larry. He has the freedom to bring the ball up the court, he just hasn't.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
That's on Larry. He has the freedom to bring the ball up the court, he just hasn't.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
That's on Larry. He has the freedom to bring the ball up the court, he just hasn't.
I honestly hope that's the case
Luke wouldn't restrict Larry like that when he was so great at it in summer league, in fact - Larry did it a couple times in pre-season. He just hasn't tapped into it the reg season yet
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
Or it could be that Larry got away with that kind of role because he was playing against Summer League competition, and him taking it down the court full court and trying to playmake against actual NBA competition would be as detrimental for him as it gets when he tries to create his own offense against that same competition.
Perhaps Larry knows that, and isn't trying to play outside of his lane and knows what he's best at which is why he hasn't been bringing the ball up and Ingram is.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
Or it could be that Larry got away with that kind of role because he was playing against Summer League competition, and him taking it down the court full court and trying to playmake against actual NBA competition would be as detrimental for him as it gets when he tries to create his own offense against that same competition.
Perhaps Larry knows that, and isn't trying to play outside of his lane and knows what he's best at which is why he hasn't been bringing the ball up and Ingram is.
"He should play in his lane." That sounds like basketball Twitter criticizing Julius everytime he turns the ball over on an iso drive.
I definitely agree that Larry needs more minutes (by-product of Luke going so deep into his rotation) and I also agree that his on-court energy has looked off. But he's been solid. _________________ Austin Reaves
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I do know for a fact that Larry does want to run a him and Jules combination lineup where they play at the 3/4 and feels they can do some damage there. Didn't sound like he wants either playing the 5 from his perspective.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
Or it could be that Larry got away with that kind of role because he was playing against Summer League competition, and him taking it down the court full court and trying to playmake against actual NBA competition would be as detrimental for him as it gets when he tries to create his own offense against that same competition.
Perhaps Larry knows that, and isn't trying to play outside of his lane and knows what he's best at which is why he hasn't been bringing the ball up and Ingram is.
I think it's simpler than that, Larry is simply on a shorter leash. Like the OP said not everyone can be a star, it's part of the growing pains of a young team. He'd need to figure out his role and how to impact the game in limited minutes. _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
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I think there are several different factors involved in Nance's play and lack of minutes.
#1 His buddy Anthony Brown is no longer part of the team. I'm not sure how close they really were but they did have some tweets about working out together in the off-season. Brown, as we all know was a member of the epic "Breakfast Club".
#2 The team is giving Julius Randle a harder look, at Nance's expense. I feel that the team knows the type of player they have in Larry Nance, but are still trying to see where Randle's ceiling is. Just like they have an idea of what Clarkson is going to be, but still wondering what Russell's ceiling is.
#3 Someone here mentioned he might have another Crohn's flare up. I obviously don't know, but that could be a possibility.
Personally, I think he's playing well. He's still cheering his heart out from the sidelines and he's still trying to dunk over fools. He just has to take those open shots, and make or miss, we'll live with them.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
Or it could be that Larry got away with that kind of role because he was playing against Summer League competition, and him taking it down the court full court and trying to playmake against actual NBA competition would be as detrimental for him as it gets when he tries to create his own offense against that same competition.
Perhaps Larry knows that, and isn't trying to play outside of his lane and knows what he's best at which is why he hasn't been bringing the ball up and Ingram is.
I think it's simpler than that, Larry is simply on a shorter leash. Like the OP said not everyone can be a star, it's part of he growing pains of a young team. He'd need to figure out his role and how to impact the game in limited minutes.
His role is as a role player and his responsibility is less than Jules.
They'd prefer he had offense made for him than he make it himself, so he will be set up on pick and pops and pick and rolls. Aside from that his job is to hustle and play weakside defense.
And as we've seen what happens when he tries to handle the ball outside Summer League against NBA competition, it's best if he leaves that to Randle on the creating an opening to playmake front.
If Larry was capable of doing that outside of Summer League, he would be doing it, but Ingram is doing it instead for a reason. Better suited for it, as is Calderon(when he does) and Clarkson.
Larry isn't gonna be on breaks looking to set up his teammates and break down defenses, outside of Summer League that isn't his game. He WILL however be looking to finish plays on the fast break and trail the plays for put backs or opportunities, as that is what he's better suited for.
If the day came at the NBA level we saw Larry Nance Jr at the top of the key tasked with handling the ball looking to set up playmaking for his teammates, something has gone horribly wrong.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
Or it could be that Larry got away with that kind of role because he was playing against Summer League competition, and him taking it down the court full court and trying to playmake against actual NBA competition would be as detrimental for him as it gets when he tries to create his own offense against that same competition.
Perhaps Larry knows that, and isn't trying to play outside of his lane and knows what he's best at which is why he hasn't been bringing the ball up and Ingram is.
More like, Larry gets more passive and risk-averse when he knows possessions count. It works insofar that he is a good team player, but he goes too far in the other direction. He needs some boldness.
I honesty don't think Larry is happy in his role. He seemed excited about the idea of playing similar to draymon green during the summer league and he looked really, really good in that role IMO. However, he hasn't rebounded and pushed or made any of those outlet passes at all so far this season (or preseason). We haven't seen him in the PnR with Russell either.
I'm actually a little disappointed but I guess that's the NBA. Not everyone can be a star...sometimes you have to accept your role and be a team player.
Personally I understand it...that's Randle's thing.
Or it could be that Larry got away with that kind of role because he was playing against Summer League competition, and him taking it down the court full court and trying to playmake against actual NBA competition would be as detrimental for him as it gets when he tries to create his own offense against that same competition.
Perhaps Larry knows that, and isn't trying to play outside of his lane and knows what he's best at which is why he hasn't been bringing the ball up and Ingram is.
I think it's simpler than that, Larry is simply on a shorter leash. Like the OP said not everyone can be a star, it's part of he growing pains of a young team. He'd need to figure out his role and how to impact the game in limited minutes.
His role is as a role player and his responsibility is less than Jules.
They'd prefer he had offense made for him than he make it himself, so he will be set up on pick and pops and pick and rolls. Aside from that his job is to hustle and play weakside defense.
And as we've seen what happens when he tries to handle the ball outside Summer League against NBA competition, it's best if he leaves that to Randle on the creating an opening to playmake front.
If Larry was capable of doing that outside of Summer League, he would be doing it, but Ingram is doing it instead for a reason. Better suited for it, as is Calderon(when he does) and Clarkson.
Larry isn't gonna be on breaks looking to set up his teammates and break down defenses, outside of Summer League that isn't his game. He WILL however be looking to finish plays on the fast break and trail the plays for put backs or opportunities, as that is what he's better suited for.
If the day came at the NBA level we saw Larry Nance Jr at the top of the key tasked with handling the ball looking to set up playmaking for his teammates, something has gone horribly wrong.
I'm in no way saying Larry should be handling the ball and initiating the offense. He knows his role and he knows he is on a shorter leash, that's why you don't see him doing the things he did in the summer league. It's still early in the season, in a new offense with different dynamics from last season so I believe all our players (including Larry) are still trying to figure out how to best impact the game and be successful on the team and in the NBA as a whole. _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
He does a good job of highlighting some if the things that a lot of us see, and explains why some of us think Larry should be starting (or at least playing way more). If he's not going to start at least give the man starter minutes
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