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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Dave20 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | Paul George and Jimmy Butler should be at the top of the list as far as trades. I'd be willing to trade a young player and a pick for either player. |
Umm. Indy isn't trading PG13, and Chicago would want DLO and Ingram (we don't have a pick until 2021). |
With how bad we're playing we might just keep the pick. I'm not ruling anything out. |
Doubt that's going to happen. Lakers seem to be playing the long game with DLO/Ingram/Jules (and other young guys).
I'm sure there will come a time where a trade for a star may arise, but doubtful this summer. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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This is the CBS Sports trade deadline analysis of Lakers.
Quote: | Los Angeles Lakers
STAND PAT. It's too soon to make decisions about the core. Yes, it's worrisome that none of them seem like can't-miss prospects, and yes, their defense is a rotted wooden barrel slowly sinking into tar pits that are on fire, but there's still optimism. It's really Year One of the true rebuild, and guys have had flashes of good play. If someone wants Luol Deng , field the offers, but there's no reason for extended talks about major changes. Yet. -- Matt Moore |
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adkindo wrote: | This is the CBS Sports trade deadline analysis of Lakers.
Quote: | Los Angeles Lakers
STAND PAT. It's too soon to make decisions about the core. Yes, it's worrisome that none of them seem like can't-miss prospects, and yes, their defense is a rotted wooden barrel slowly sinking into tar pits that are on fire, but there's still optimism. It's really Year One of the true rebuild, and guys have had flashes of good play. If someone wants Luol Deng , field the offers, but there's no reason for extended talks about major changes. Yet. -- Matt Moore |
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I'd agree with this. None of the young guys are playing well enough that we'd get high value for them, and no reason to move guys in a fire sale.
I'd trade the veterans if we got a decent offer, but no one on the roster strikes me as having a lot of value unless a team in dire need happens to fall in love with Nick or Lou, but I don't see that happening. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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There should be a trade bet contest, the poster who bets on the Lakers making a trade gets a 100 dollar donation if the team ends up making a move. |
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Gatekeeper Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Trade between bottom dwellers?
LAKERS GET: Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, Tyus Jones
TWOLVES GET: Jahlil Okafor, Jose Calderon
SIXERS GET: Tarik Black, Ricky Rubio, Nick Young
Our starting lineup:
Noel, Randle, Ingram, Williams, Russell
Bench: Moz, Nance Jr, Muhammad, Deng, Clarkson, Jones _________________ Character
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activeverb wrote: | adkindo wrote: | This is the CBS Sports trade deadline analysis of Lakers.
Quote: | Los Angeles Lakers
STAND PAT. It's too soon to make decisions about the core. Yes, it's worrisome that none of them seem like can't-miss prospects, and yes, their defense is a rotted wooden barrel slowly sinking into tar pits that are on fire, but there's still optimism. It's really Year One of the true rebuild, and guys have had flashes of good play. If someone wants Luol Deng , field the offers, but there's no reason for extended talks about major changes. Yet. -- Matt Moore |
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I'd agree with this. None of the young guys are playing well enough that we'd get high value for them, and no reason to move guys in a fire sale.
I'd trade the veterans if we got a decent offer, but no one on the roster strikes me as having a lot of value unless a team in dire need happens to fall in love with Nick or Lou, but I don't see that happening. |
Nick or Lou is more valuable to the Lakers than to another team. I doubt they are going anywhere. Maybe Tarik if they are confident with Zu. Or Calderon if somebody is dumping a non-expiring.
Lou in the summer is more likely due to the fear of losing him for nothing next year. |
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Gatekeeper wrote: | Trade between bottom dwellers?
LAKERS GET: Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, Tyus Jones
TWOLVES GET: Jahlil Okafor, Jose Calderon
SIXERS GET: Tarik Black, Ricky Rubio, Nick Young
Our starting lineup:
Noel, Randle, Ingram, Williams, Russell
Bench: Moz, Nance Jr, Muhammad, Deng, Clarkson, Jones |
A combination of Simmons and Rubio would be tricky to make work since both aren't that strong as three point shooters.
The three Point Guards in the trade are Calderon, Jones and Rubio. The Timberwolves send out the best two in Rubio and Jones while ending up with the worst in Calderon. |
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Bard207 wrote: | Gatekeeper wrote: | Trade between bottom dwellers?
LAKERS GET: Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, Tyus Jones
TWOLVES GET: Jahlil Okafor, Jose Calderon
SIXERS GET: Tarik Black, Ricky Rubio, Nick Young
Our starting lineup:
Noel, Randle, Ingram, Williams, Russell
Bench: Moz, Nance Jr, Muhammad, Deng, Clarkson, Jones |
A combination of Simmons and Rubio would be tricky to make work since both aren't that strong as three point shooters.
The three Point Guards in the trade are Calderon, Jones and Rubio. The Timberwolves send out the best two in Rubio and Jones while ending up with the worst in Calderon. |
But they got Dunn doe. |
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Gatekeeper wrote: | Trade between bottom dwellers?
LAKERS GET: Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, Tyus Jones
TWOLVES GET: Jahlil Okafor, Jose Calderon
SIXERS GET: Tarik Black, Ricky Rubio, Nick Young
Our starting lineup:
Noel, Randle, Ingram, Williams, Russell
Bench: Moz, Nance Jr, Muhammad, Deng, Clarkson, Jones |
I'd say anyone who looks at this proposal would instantly know it came from a Lakers fan, and definitely not a 76ers fan |
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LaxT wrote: | Nick or Lou is more valuable to the Lakers than to another team. |
I think Lou has a good chance of staying since he has another year on his contract at a good rate and has played exceptionally well. Nick will opt out this Summer though and I can't imagine the Lakers wanting to pay him a big money extension given what happened after they re-upped him three years ago. So I'd guess Nick gets moved if there are any fair offers for him. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:23 am Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | LaxT wrote: | Nick or Lou is more valuable to the Lakers than to another team. |
I think Lou has a good chance of staying since he has another year on his contract at a good rate and has played exceptionally well. Nick will opt out this Summer though and I can't imagine the Lakers wanting to pay him a big money extension given what happened after they re-upped him three years ago. So I'd guess Nick gets moved if there are any fair offers for him. |
Who would do it knowing that Nick will opt out? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:12 am Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | LaxT wrote: | Nick or Lou is more valuable to the Lakers than to another team. |
I think Lou has a good chance of staying since he has another year on his contract at a good rate and has played exceptionally well. Nick will opt out this Summer though and I can't imagine the Lakers wanting to pay him a big money extension given what happened after they re-upped him three years ago. So I'd guess Nick gets moved if there are any fair offers for him. |
Lou having another year (at a cheap 7m) is a reason why he probably should be shopped first. Teams don't want a guy like Swaggy who will opt out and become much more expensive. At least with Lou, you can have a playoff run with him and then have him for another year. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:16 am Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | Gatekeeper wrote: | Trade between bottom dwellers?
LAKERS GET: Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, Tyus Jones
TWOLVES GET: Jahlil Okafor, Jose Calderon
SIXERS GET: Tarik Black, Ricky Rubio, Nick Young
Our starting lineup:
Noel, Randle, Ingram, Williams, Russell
Bench: Moz, Nance Jr, Muhammad, Deng, Clarkson, Jones |
I'd say anyone who looks at this proposal would instantly know it came from a Lakers fan, and definitely not a 76ers fan |
Funny enougn this benefits the Sixers most, though. If we waive our top 3 protection, that gives them practically 3 lottery picks next year. (Our pick, theirs/Sac's, and Simmons). Minnesota is grooming Dunn to be their starting guard and need a vet like Calderon as well as getting their man in Okafor. As for the Lakers we get more young assest to develop/trade because we most likely lose this year's lottery pick. _________________ Character
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Trade Lou for a 1st round pick
Try to buy low and get KJ Mcdaniels as well
See if anyone wants MOZGOV
Or if you can get anything for Deng - if not, keep him
Start Zu
Get top 3 pick _________________ 24 |
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: |
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I honestly believe we already have players with all star potential on the team. |
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Dave20 wrote: | I honestly believe we already have players with all star potential on the team. |
I agree, with the votes of Laker nation I could see DLO and possibly Ingram making the all star game. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:22 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | I honestly believe we already have players with all star potential on the team. |
I agree, with the votes of Laker nation I could see DLO and possibly Ingram making the all star game. |
Once they actually deserve it and merit it by play. I could see Jules being a possible one too. But now? None are near it at all. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | I honestly believe we already have players with all star potential on the team. |
I agree, with the votes of Laker nation I could see DLO and possibly Ingram making the all star game. |
Once they actually deserve it and merit it by play. I could see Jules being a possible one too. But now? None are near it at all. |
Zaza Pachulia _________________ |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | I honestly believe we already have players with all star potential on the team. |
I agree, with the votes of Laker nation I could see DLO and possibly Ingram making the all star game. |
Once they actually deserve it and merit it by play. I could see Jules being a possible one too. But now? None are near it at all. |
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I think he got 0 votes from the media, so that saved the NBA from that fiasco. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I'd love to get Nurkic.
DEN is said to surely be trading him _________________ 24 |
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Would you guys rather get a mid/late 1st for Lou or a young player like Nurkic or Stanley Johnson? _________________ 24 |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:05 am Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | Would you guys rather get a mid/late 1st for Lou or a young player like Nurkic or Stanley Johnson? |
Young player. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:09 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | Would you guys rather get a mid/late 1st for Lou or a young player like Nurkic or Stanley Johnson? |
Young player. |
Yep but not Nurkic |
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BigGameHames wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | Would you guys rather get a mid/late 1st for Lou or a young player like Nurkic or Stanley Johnson? |
Young player. |
Yep but not Nurkic |
Why not? |
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Mini Mamba wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | Would you guys rather get a mid/late 1st for Lou or a young player like Nurkic or Stanley Johnson? |
Young player. |
Yep but not Nurkic |
Why not? |
I'd rather go with Zubac. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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