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lukewaltonsdad
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| Omar Little wrote: | | At some point, black becomes expendable if you're going to start getting minutes for Zubac and play Randle and Nance together. His second year was always a placeholder and trade sweetener. |
He's turning himself into a nice trade asset. |
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yinoma2001
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers will have an interesting decision about black. Is he a long term keeper? Should we cough up the 6m on his deal to keep him and thereby lose a 7-9 year max slot? |
Unless they unload on a RFA, the easy answer is to keep Black. The UFA market really sucks. |
Or a UFA. they will likely know by the time his Non guaranteed date comes around.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Black's guarantee date was intentionally made late enough that we should already know if we will be using the max slot.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers will have an interesting decision about black. Is he a long term keeper? Should we cough up the 6m on his deal to keep him and thereby lose a 7-9 year max slot? |
Unless they unload on a RFA, the easy answer is to keep Black. The UFA market really sucks. |
Or a UFA. they will likely know by the time his Non guaranteed date comes around. |
There are no UFAs that would be worth it. There are some RFAs that would be.
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers will have an interesting decision about black. Is he a long term keeper? Should we cough up the 6m on his deal to keep him and thereby lose a 7-9 year max slot? |
Unless they unload on a RFA, the easy answer is to keep Black. The UFA market really sucks. |
Or a UFA. they will likely know by the time his Non guaranteed date comes around. |
There are no UFAs that would be worth it. There are some RFAs that would be. |
And why this newfound attitude for the Lakers when they went for Deng and moz? For better or worse I see them spending that cap space this summer. What exactly would we be saving up for anyways on 2018.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Well if they take Black's option and re-sign Young they will be spending cap space.
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yinoma2001
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Well if they take Black's option and re-sign Young they will be spending cap space. |
Ugh.
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Unless they go after a RFA, there isn't any player in their market range that would be worth pursuing. You know what you will get with Young and Black.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Unless they go after a RFA, there isn't any player in their market range that would be worth pursuing. You know what you will get with Young and Black. |
Again ugh.
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Cutheon
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| lukewaltonsdad wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | At some point, black becomes expendable if you're going to start getting minutes for Zubac and play Randle and Nance together. His second year was always a placeholder and trade sweetener. |
He's turning himself into a nice trade asset. |
Him and Lou would be a nice get for any contender |
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dcarter4kobe
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Lou/Black/Top 3 pick would be a pretty good offer..
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Shaolin's Finest
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Unless they go after a RFA, there isn't any player in their market range that would be worth pursuing. You know what you will get with Young and Black. |
That's true, but if we lose our 1st round draft pick and finish near the bottom of the West again, I don't think the front office will just stay status quo and bring back the same team from this year. |
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Worthy42
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Here's our team's age:
Ingram 19
Zubs 19
DLo 20
Julius 22
JC 24
LNJ 24
Tarik 25
TRob 25
Lou Will 30
Moz 30
Nick 31
Deng 31
Huertas 33
Calderon 35
MWP 37
Lou Will, Nick are the ? marks.
Huertas/Calerdon/MWP probably won't be back.
Deng/Moz are locked in.
25 and under guys are basically locked down unless TRob wants more PT and gets a better offer.
So that's basically about 5-6 spots we'll have available to play with. |
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danzag
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| Worthy42 wrote: | Here's our team's age:
Ingram 19
Zubs 19
DLo 20
Julius 22
JC 24
LNJ 24
Tarik 25
TRob 25
Lou Will 30
Moz 30
Nick 31
Deng 31
Huertas 33
Calderon 35
MWP 37
Lou Will, Nick are the ? marks.
Huertas/Calerdon/MWP probably won't be back.
Deng/Moz are locked in.
25 and under guys are basically locked down unless TRob wants more PT and gets a better offer.
So that's basically about 5-6 spots we'll have available to play with. |
They will choose only one between Tarik and T-Rob. |
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tox
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| danzag wrote: | | Worthy42 wrote: | Here's our team's age:
Ingram 19
Zubs 19
DLo 20
Julius 22
JC 24
LNJ 24
Tarik 25
TRob 25
Lou Will 30
Moz 30
Nick 31
Deng 31
Huertas 33
Calderon 35
MWP 37
Lou Will, Nick are the ? marks.
Huertas/Calerdon/MWP probably won't be back.
Deng/Moz are locked in.
25 and under guys are basically locked down unless TRob wants more PT and gets a better offer.
So that's basically about 5-6 spots we'll have available to play with. |
They will choose only one between Tarik and T-Rob. |
no brainer, unless Tarik is traded or we need his cap space |
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fiendishoc
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| I'm not in favor of trading one of the few defenders that we have, even if there is a position minutes crunch. Find a way to unload one of the vets for wing depth - Lou probably the most realistic option to have demand from another team. |
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Congrats Tarik! With his hectic schedule this had to be a complicated task. Very wise move, TB is planning for his future. |
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pio2u
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Tarik put in some hard work tonight!
He's not the most talented guy on the court but he gives 100% effort and hustle all the time.
He recorded a double-double (13 points - 5-6 FG, 11 rebounds). He played decent defensively too (+2). |
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dcarter4kobe
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As I said in another thread, he has been our best C this season.
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Dr. Funkbot
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Black has really made a difference in the starting lineup over JR in my opinion. Defense and the ability to finish strong at the rim really helps.
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What a great story. Really makes you pull for him to do good in anything he does. |
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danzag
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | Black has really made a difference in the starting lineup over JR in my opinion. Defense and the ability to finish strong at the rim really helps. |
Yes. He's been outplaying Julius Randle the last few month or so.
And he's doing great on the starting lineup. |
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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | Black has really made a difference in the starting lineup over JR in my opinion. Defense and the ability to finish strong at the rim really helps. |
I noticed this too but maybe I'm imagining things. |
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Tarik Black Learned More From Kobe Bryant Than Just Basketball
| Quote: | | “We sat on the plane one time and just talked about family and how they ask for money. We talked about how to set my family up for success. We talked about business. We talked about investments. He opened my eyes to investments and handling money. He said on the plane one time he was like, ‘Tell me about your bank accounts.’ You know he doesn’t beat around the bush. He was like, ‘You need to learn about this stuff.’ I read. He got me some books that I read all the time. He was like, ‘You need to start reading books, learning.’ ” |
http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-tarik-black-learned-more-from-kobe-bryant-than-just-basketball/2017/02/02/ |
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