*** 2016-17 General NBA Game Discussion Thread ***
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 41, 42, 43 ... 45, 46, 47  Next
 
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> Game Updates This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Basketball Fan
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Posts: 24741

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject:

It feels weird the Pacers have a 1 PM game if it were football this wouldn't seem odd to me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
bum2
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 809

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject:

Leonard making the strongest of cases for being the MVP. Ridiculous performance.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
the association
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 03 Feb 2015
Posts: 1982

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:56 pm    Post subject:

Kawhi (bleep) Leonard ... that's how you announce your candidacy for R/S MVP again this season, with a hyper-efficient game, 17 points in the 4Q of a marquee matchup, the final go-ahead bucket off-the-dribble (from distance) in the waning moments, followed immediately by the pivotal defensive play with the late chase down, thunderous pin-it-against-the-glass block on the MVP frontrunner ...

It's (bleep) bananas how productive this kid has become ...

http://www.si.com/nba/2017/03/07/kawhi-leonard-mvp-case-spurs-james-harden-russell-westbrook
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
NBA2017
Rookie
Rookie


Joined: 08 Mar 2017
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:07 am    Post subject:

Lebron is still a better player than Kawhi. Lebron controls the offense does Kawhi do that?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
the association
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 03 Feb 2015
Posts: 1982

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject:

NBA2017 wrote:
Lebron is still a better player than Kawhi. Lebron controls the offense does Kawhi do that?




The Spurs don't operate a system that enables any one player to "control" the offense anyway. But more importantly, what about defense? Doesn't defense factor into the calculus of identifying the best player ... ?

LeBron may be a better player than Kawhi (esp. in the past), but when you factor in minutes played at this point, it's not so clear ...

Per 36 Minutes:

LeBron
Points: 24.9
Rebounds: 7.9
Assists: 8.4
Steals: 1.3
Turnovers: 4.0

Kawhi
Points: 28.1
Rebounds: 6.4
Assists: 3.7
Steals: 2.0
Turnovers: 2.2

Most of the advanced statistics also favor Kawhi at this point. And with him as the undisputed focal point, the Spurs are doing much more with less.

LeBron is an all time great, and he may even be the best player right now, but based on the apparent criteria of the R/S MVP award, Kawhi seems to be a more deserving candidate than LeBron right now. And frankly, I think he's more deserving than anyone else right now ... he's carrying the Spurs, much like LeBron did with his teams for many years. And winning in the process ...

LeBron's team is 7 games behind Kawhi's team with far greater surrounding talent. And with four R/S MVPs already, voter fatigue won't be his friend. Harden is a turnover machine, he can't play defense anywhere close to Kawhi's level, and his team is six games behind Kawhi's team. Same exact criticism of Westbrook, plus the fact that he seems to care more about his own game than winning, AND his team is 15 games behind Kawhi's team. This should be an easy decision, esp. when you consider how the Spurs constrain Kawhi's game. What he's done in expanding his game from his rookie year (and previously, his brief college career) is remarkable ...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
the association
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 03 Feb 2015
Posts: 1982

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject:

17 points from the Warriors bench tonight in the loss to Boston ... 12 losses, on their way to 15 - 16 at this point, I'm guessing ...

For now, 1 game advantage over the Spurs in the loss column.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
CandyCanes
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 Dec 2007
Posts: 35750
Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject:

Wow. How is GSW so weak without Durant? It's the same team as last year minus Harrison Barnes, Bogut, Ezeli, and Speights... (And Mike Brown instead of Walton as Associate Head Coach.)
_________________
Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
The Logo
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 25 Jul 2013
Posts: 9577
Location: Salem, OR

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:52 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Wow. How is GSW so weak without Durant? It's the same team as last year minus Harrison Barnes, Bogut, Ezeli, and Speights... (And Mike Brown instead of Walton as Associate Head Coach.)

Just not a deep team. They obviously have Curry, Klay, and Draymond, but Iggy has regressed since 2015, Pachulia is a below average starting center, and West doesn't space the floor like Speights does. Barnes is pretty meh at this point of his career.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
the association
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 03 Feb 2015
Posts: 1982

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:58 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Wow. How is GSW so weak without Durant? It's the same team as last year minus Harrison Barnes, Bogut, Ezeli, and Speights... (And Mike Brown instead of Walton as Associate Head Coach.)


What about Hector Barbossa ... ?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
K2
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 25 Dec 2011
Posts: 23529

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:34 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Wow. How is GSW so weak without Durant? It's the same team as last year minus Harrison Barnes, Bogut, Ezeli, and Speights... (And Mike Brown instead of Walton as Associate Head Coach.)


http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=178667&start=0
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
jestersmash
Sixth Man
Sixth Man


Joined: 26 Oct 2016
Posts: 26

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:45 pm    Post subject:

the association wrote:
NBA2017 wrote:
Lebron is still a better player than Kawhi. Lebron controls the offense does Kawhi do that?




The Spurs don't operate a system that enables any one player to "control" the offense anyway. But more importantly, what about defense? Doesn't defense factor into the calculus of identifying the best player ... ?

LeBron may be a better player than Kawhi (esp. in the past), but when you factor in minutes played at this point, it's not so clear ...

Per 36 Minutes:

LeBron
Points: 24.9
Rebounds: 7.9
Assists: 8.4
Steals: 1.3
Turnovers: 4.0

Kawhi
Points: 28.1
Rebounds: 6.4
Assists: 3.7
Steals: 2.0
Turnovers: 2.2

Most of the advanced statistics also favor Kawhi at this point. And with him as the undisputed focal point, the Spurs are doing much more with less.

LeBron is an all time great, and he may even be the best player right now, but based on the apparent criteria of the R/S MVP award, Kawhi seems to be a more deserving candidate than LeBron right now. And frankly, I think he's more deserving than anyone else right now ... he's carrying the Spurs, much like LeBron did with his teams for many years. And winning in the process ...

LeBron's team is 7 games behind Kawhi's team with far greater surrounding talent. And with four R/S MVPs already, voter fatigue won't be his friend. Harden is a turnover machine, he can't play defense anywhere close to Kawhi's level, and his team is six games behind Kawhi's team. Same exact criticism of Westbrook, plus the fact that he seems to care more about his own game than winning, AND his team is 15 games behind Kawhi's team. This should be an easy decision, esp. when you consider how the Spurs constrain Kawhi's game. What he's done in expanding his game from his rookie year (and previously, his brief college career) is remarkable ...


I watch a lot of Spurs games. Leonard is a superstar talent but he's still only the 3rd or 4th best player in the league. He doesn't effectively pass out of double teams or have the court vision that Lebron has quite yet. If he did he'd be the best player in the league given his offensive efficiency and all-world defense.

I think Leonard's more deserving of MVP this season than Lebron, but he's not a better player than Lebron. The vast difference in assists per 36 is evidence of that. Lebron is the best SF to ever play the game and arguably the 3rd best player of all time.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
CandyCanes
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 Dec 2007
Posts: 35750
Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject:

Wiggins is such a choker.
_________________
Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
lakersken80
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 12 Aug 2009
Posts: 38750

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:21 pm    Post subject:

Celtics are only 2 games behind the Cavs for the #1 spot in the east. With them getting the Nets 1st round draft pick this summer, I think it will only be a matter of time before they start giving the Cavs problems and possibly overtake them...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Telleris
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 28 May 2013
Posts: 2371

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:42 am    Post subject:

Kawhi's defense hasn't been that great this year, he can still turn it on, but then so can Lebron, however the conservation of energy is pretty noticeable.
_________________
I believe everything the media tells me except for anything for which I have direct personal knowledge, which they always get wrong
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
MJST
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 06 Jul 2014
Posts: 26084

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:49 am    Post subject:

Telleris wrote:
Kawhi's defense hasn't been that great this year, he can still turn it on, but then so can Lebron, however the conservation of energy is pretty noticeable.


https://media.giphy.com/media/glmRyiSI3v5E4/giphy.gif
_________________
How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
TDRock
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 48596
Location: LA to the Bay

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
Celtics are only 2 games behind the Cavs for the #1 spot in the east. With them getting the Nets 1st round draft pick this summer, I think it will only be a matter of time before they start giving the Cavs problems and possibly overtake them...


let us hope..

MJST wrote:
Telleris wrote:
Kawhi's defense hasn't been that great this year, he can still turn it on, but then so can Lebron, however the conservation of energy is pretty noticeable.


https://media.giphy.com/media/glmRyiSI3v5E4/giphy.gif


^ right?
_________________
#IStillBelieveTaurean
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
KeepItRealOrElse
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 11 Oct 2012
Posts: 32767

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:25 am    Post subject:

Pelicans were up 14 with 1:30 left and Gentry had Davis still in, hurt his leg or ankle... Can't play around like that, get him out.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Vancouver Fan
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 17740

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject:

Man steph can ball.
_________________
Music is my medicine
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
lakersken80
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 12 Aug 2009
Posts: 38750

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject:

So Pelicans are 3.5 games back of the last playoff spot with 12 games left....I guess they aren't making the playoffs.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
defense
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 12 Jan 2010
Posts: 39322

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject:

Steph just disrespected the whole city of Oklahoma
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
TDRock
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 48596
Location: LA to the Bay

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:12 pm    Post subject:

Vancouver Fan wrote:
Man steph can ball.


defense wrote:
Steph just disrespected the whole city of Oklahoma


That shot at the buzzer after the scuffle was cold blooded lol
_________________
#IStillBelieveTaurean
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
lakersken80
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 12 Aug 2009
Posts: 38750

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:52 pm    Post subject:

OKC Thunder are irrelevant now because of poor GM decisions....they will join the other teams in the dustbin of what if teams in NBA history, like the Phoenix Suns, etc....
They can cry all about the Warriors but they went and took their star player. Thats what winners do and losers cry about poor me....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
MJST
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 06 Jul 2014
Posts: 26084

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:31 pm    Post subject:

Bet you Westbrook knows who Curry is now.

Westbrook needs to stop doing all this trash talking while he keeps getting dominated.

This was the game to make his statement against Curry, cause the Warriors didn't have Durant this game. Curry dominated him, and the Warriors dominated this game.

After all the trash talk and all the "who is he" and all the stuff he's been saying all year and doing all year, and the air of "I'm better than everyone" he carries with almost an eye rolling delusion, he lost all 4 games and tonight when the Warriors didn't even have Durant, he got dominated again, this time after the "who is he" comment, wound up getting shut down for 15 points and 5 TOs while Curry lit him up for 23/5/7 in 3 quarters.

So right now, regardless of all that "competitive nature" regardless of all that "mamba mentality." I hope it's silenced down now about what Westbrook is and what Curry isn't. Westbrook keeps getting destroyed, and is still talking trash for no reason whatsoever. He's got no reason to talk trash at this point, and if he keeps on doing that he's gonna wind up looking like a bitter clown and eventually people are gonna go "yep...that's WHY Durant left."

I wish ESPN showed Kobe the kind of love and excuses they show for Westbrook, when Kobe carried a team of Smush and Kwame to a 45 win season while averaging 35 a game on 45% shooting, but "he doesn't make his teammates better. He isn't MVP." but for Westbrook it's "well look at his teammates..you gotta feel for Westbrook... he's so competitive and just doesn't have the team."

Harden has a less talented roster and is near 10 wins better than Westbrook's team.

ESPN gotten selectively soft as charmin.
_________________
How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Krispy Kreme
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Posts: 12252

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:48 am    Post subject:

Westbrook reminds me of Iverson. Blow hard who walks around acting all tough. Great player, but stop the tough guy act. Focus on winning.
_________________
Dominating every day.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ricardoJPC
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 01 Sep 2014
Posts: 385

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:04 pm    Post subject:

daaaamn booker. 64 pts most in a game since kobe bryant
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> Game Updates All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 41, 42, 43 ... 45, 46, 47  Next
Page 42 of 47
Jump to:  

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum






Graphics by uberzev
© 1995-2018 LakersGround.net. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy. Terms of Use.
LakersGround is an unofficial news source serving the fan community since 1995.
We are in no way associated with the Los Angeles Lakers or the National Basketball Association.


Powered by phpBB