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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:18 pm Post subject: Chick Notwithstanding, Paul Sunderland Was the Best Lakers Announcer |
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Fact. |
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K2 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Paul had his moments, but it was an impossible task to follow a legend.
Out of all of the announcers that followed Chick, Marge Hearn mentioned that the young man who did the games on radio was quite good (Spero). |
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bucketsandbags Sixth Man
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 93
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Riley & Jackson notwithstanding, Del Harris was the best lakers coach. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Spero was great but he just didn't bleed purple and gold. He wanted to do other things and that's fine.
I liked Sunderland. Actually I was cool with everyone before Bill Mac, who sounds like an amateur. |
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City_Dawg Retired Number
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 46878 Location: Coming soon and striking at your borders.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Paul's enthusiasm certainly made him nice to listen to.
Joel is actually a pretty good announcer, it's just his AWFUL chemistry with Stu made it seem otherwise. _________________ *sighs*
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greenfrog Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jan 2011 Posts: 36081 Location: 502 Bad Gateway
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Too loud for my taste. He really sucked up to Stu too.
Meyers was superb. |
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City_Dawg Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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The Lakers really need to move on from Stu. He's done enough and I think anyone they bring in is going to be weighed down by him. _________________ *sighs*
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I liked Paul |
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Daphanabe Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Good, but nothing tops the legend. |
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RestEasyBlackMamba Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Spero Dedes was great on the radio. Thought he'd eventually get the nod. |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Spero, hands down, amongst the human beings.
Chick, however, was not human, and pretty much invented 90% of the basketball broadcast lexicon. His command of the action and ability to communicate it clearly was . . . astonishing. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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Coppertop Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Paul was good. A slight homer, but not over the top. He worked well with Stu, which helped.
I thought Joel Meyers was a good play by play guy, but he didn't really know basketball all that well. I think Stu caught onto this and just never ceased to call him out on it.
Spero (who I know personally) is an excellent play by play guy, but I always had one issue with him on radio: He called plays well after they had happened and you could essentially tell from crowd noise what had happened by the time he spit it out. I had always hoped they'd move him to TV with Stu and that would've been perfect. Alas... |
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george w kush Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Sunderland sounded like he was calling a horse race. |
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cheetos82 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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oh GOD! please get rid of Billy Mac! Sometimes I don't watch the telecast so I can listen to John Ireland and Mychael Thompson.
80% of the time I feel like Billy Mac has no idea what's going on on the court.... |
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Username Star Player
Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 4718 Location: Out There
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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"Looks good... is good!"
Sundy was OK. He used to get absolutely skewered around here though. |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Stu's main problem - though I agree with nearly every point in TrebleClef's excellent thread - is that he disagrees with a majority of what his announcing partner says. This was especially apparent with Joel, but also definitely still a problem with Billy Mac. Now, it is certainly true that both Joel and Billy Mac say some pretty dumb things, but Stu does not need to explicitly disagree with them so often.
Sundy was just the bees knees in every facet of announcing prowess. Case in point: His call on that epic Kobe shot against the Blazers in the last game of the reg season that year. |
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Big Game James Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Spero Dedes says "No!" _________________ Don't make me give you a trout slap! |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 12712
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:05 am Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | Stu's main problem - though I agree with nearly every point in TrebleClef's excellent thread - is that he disagrees with a majority of what his announcing partner says. This was especially apparent with Joel, but also definitely still a problem with Billy Mac. Now, it is certainly true that both Joel and Billy Mac say some pretty dumb things, but Stu does not need to explicitly disagree with them so often.
Sundy was just the bees knees in every facet of announcing prowess. Case in point: His call on that epic Kobe shot against the Blazers in the last game of the reg season that year. |
That call of Sundy's is forever burned in my brain, down to the crack in his voice in the middle of the scream . As someone else said, he had an impossible task following a legend. In hindsight, the guy was a real pro and seemed to love being with the Lakers. He never should've been let go.
Joel Meyers was good as well, but Grumpy Stu seemed to squeeze him out. It's no surprise to me that Stu prefers a lackey like Billy Mac who he can steamroll whenever he pleases. We won't have a quality play by play guy until the old fart is released. |
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pmacla Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:07 am Post subject: |
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strange but true fact Billy Mac has called the 30,000 th point of 2 of the 6 players who have achieved that lol
Billy Mac is a great guy and great with fans but tell me a better upgrade and I would listen dont know whats out there these days |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:09 am Post subject: |
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I think both Stu and Billy Mac need to go, to be honest. Spero would be a great choice and then I would take Bill Walton as the other guy. |
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70sdude Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Ugh. Sunderland was OK. Pretty sure the OP did not know the meaning of notwithstanding. |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:14 am Post subject: |
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lol was waiting for someone to call me out on that |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: |
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I liked Joel Myers. Spero was good too. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:19 am Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | I think both Stu and Billy Mac need to go, to be honest. Spero would be a great choice and then I would take Bill Walton as the other guy. |
that would be pretty amazing tbh |
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70sdude Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:22 am Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | lol was waiting for someone to call me out on that |
No problem. It's pretty natural to want to use it as shorthand for "With the exception of (Chick)...". |
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