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Better player?
Harden is better than 2012-2013 Kobe, but not prime Kobe
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2012-2013 Kobe
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Harden is better than any version of Kobe.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:23 pm    Post subject: Current Harden vs 2012-2013 Kobe

Harden is playing pretty similarly to D'Antoni-era Kobe in terms of high scoring accompanied by high assist numbers and horrible defense. A lot of people thought we would never see anyone play that well again, but Harden's coming pretty close.

I included an option for Harden being better than any version of Kobe because a poster here said he thought that was the case.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:34 pm    Post subject:

Hardens defense isn't horrible this year. I still wouldn't take him over Kobe though.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject:

It's very close but:

Harden is running a well-oiled machine.

Kobe was running a machine that hadn't had it's oil changed in years.

Kobe was willing that team to victory - Harden plays more within the team. The Houston team moves the ball and plays 200x better than that Laker team.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject:

Stupid Question on a Kobe ehm Lakers board...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:25 pm    Post subject:

lol
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:58 am    Post subject:

Too bad we never witnessed that 2012-2013 team in the playoff. As much as they struggled in the regular season, they were on a roll towards the end, right up to the achilles tragedy. A slow downed, defensive heavy, more 1-on-1 bball playoffs, who know

individually, of course Kobe > any version of Harden. Just because
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:05 pm    Post subject:

Harden is having a historical season... ofcourse he is playing better than a post-Prime Kobe.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject:

Snipes wrote:
It's very close but:

Harden is running a well-oiled machine.

Kobe was running a machine that hadn't had it's oil changed in years.

Kobe was willing that team to victory - Harden plays more within the team. The Houston team moves the ball and plays 200x better than that Laker team.

oh yea big difference. rocket's are stacked, plus remember how physical defenders were to kobe back then, just hacking the crap out of him. harden gets tons of nice treatment relatively.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:18 am    Post subject:

SuperboyReformed wrote:
Snipes wrote:
It's very close but:

Harden is running a well-oiled machine.

Kobe was running a machine that hadn't had it's oil changed in years.

Kobe was willing that team to victory - Harden plays more within the team. The Houston team moves the ball and plays 200x better than that Laker team.

oh yea big difference. rocket's are stacked, plus remember how physical defenders were to kobe back then, just hacking the crap out of him. harden gets tons of nice treatment relatively.


Rockets are stacked???

This team doesn't have more talent than that Lakers team. Main difference is this team is playing within the system and everyone is getting along.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:55 pm    Post subject:

Dreamshake wrote:
SuperboyReformed wrote:
Snipes wrote:
It's very close but:

Harden is running a well-oiled machine.

Kobe was running a machine that hadn't had it's oil changed in years.

Kobe was willing that team to victory - Harden plays more within the team. The Houston team moves the ball and plays 200x better than that Laker team.

oh yea big difference. rocket's are stacked, plus remember how physical defenders were to kobe back then, just hacking the crap out of him. harden gets tons of nice treatment relatively.


Rockets are stacked???

This team doesn't have more talent than that Lakers team. Main difference is this team is playing within the system and everyone is getting along.


Yup, not stacked at all. Just a bunch of chuckers who have been given the green light and are encouraged to shoot miss after miss. It's great to watch. Spacing is superb..and man when Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon get it going from 3 it is must see TV. Congrats Dreamshake, very exciting team.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:31 pm    Post subject:

MDA's system is maximizing Harden this season.
A healthy prime Kobe I would take over Harden any day of the week.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:28 pm    Post subject:

Harden, Lebron, Westbrook, etc. are better regular season players due to their stats. But come crunch time and playoff time, Kobe elevated his team above the sum of its parts. Harden is nowhere near that level in that department. I'm not saying he's a choker, but that he doesn't raise his game the same way on the big stage.
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