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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:42 am    Post subject: 1500 Shots per day...

Reggie Miller put that number out during one of his game broadcasts.

1500 shots per day!

The announcers are all saying these guys are all "hard workers", why are they not shooting 1500 shots a day during the off season? Why not during the regular season?

If they aren't confident enough to take them in the game and if they are not proficient enough to make the shot and the Team acknowledges that they need to develop that shooting skill, why are they not doing it?

You might say "how do you know they aren't?" I would imagine if they were taking 1500 shots a day they would be shooting better.

Guys that definitely need to take 1500 (3 point) shots per day:

Still have hope for
Randle
Ingram
Nance
Zubac
Clarkson
Nwaba (Lakers really need him to develop into MCooperII)


Beyond hope:
Black (just does not have any touch)
MWP (should just retire)



Doing good but could always improve:

Nick Young
DLO (He needs to shoot 1500 a day so he can become like Steph Curry from 3)

Would more practice help or just wear him down:
Deng
Brewer (probably too old to improve)


I was practicing my threes recently and to MAKE 100 3 pointers it took like 15 minutes.

Even if it took 30 minutes to make 100 threes, that would be 30 x 15 = 7.5 hours! Wow...lol The price of success....

They couldn't possibly be spending all day in the weight room.

They all need to become better shooters.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:52 am    Post subject:

And they didn't hire you on staff yet?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject:

It would take me an hour to make 100 3's lmfao


Are we just talking about taking or making 1500 threes?

That seems impossible imo

Even if he they break it down to 3 sessions a day at 500 made threes per day it seems a little rediculous.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:01 am    Post subject:

PICKnPOP wrote:
It would take me an hour to make 100 3's lmfao


Are we just talking about taking or making 1500 threes?

That seems impossible imo

Even if he they break it down to 3 sessions a day at 500 made threes per day it seems a little rediculous.


But it's Reggie Miller. During the off season I could see him doing it. Not like he had another job to do.

Our guys would need more than a day though
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:03 am    Post subject:

Fracture wrote:
PICKnPOP wrote:
It would take me an hour to make 100 3's lmfao


Are we just talking about taking or making 1500 threes?

That seems impossible imo

Even if he they break it down to 3 sessions a day at 500 made threes per day it seems a little rediculous.


But it's Reggie Miller. During the off season I could see him doing it. Not like he had another job to do.


Oh I think Reggie did it and maybe curry lol but they are goat shooters


(I'm from riverside btw so I'm prolly biased) lol
Our guys would need more than a day though
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject:

If he's gonna take 1500 shots I'd rather see it broken down like this

500 threes
500 mid range
500 free throws
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:22 am    Post subject:

PICKnPOP wrote:
It would take me an hour to make 100 3's lmfao


Are we just talking about taking or making 1500 threes?

That seems impossible imo

Even if he they break it down to 3 sessions a day at 500 made threes per day it seems a little rediculous.


Reggie Miller said MAKE 1500 threes per day!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:24 am    Post subject:

PICKnPOP wrote:
It would take me an hour to make 100 3's lmfao


Are we just talking about taking or making 1500 threes?

That seems impossible imo

Even if he they break it down to 3 sessions a day at 500 made threes per day it seems a little rediculous.


I have one of those net systems set up so I don't have to chase rebounds. It's really cool.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject:

Most guys who make it to the NBA are hard workers. That said, it takes a lot of mental discipline to shoot 3-pointers for an hour or two straight without zoning out. Even in the A personality type world of the NBA, the Reggie Millers and Kobe Bryants who have that level of mental stamina are rare.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:48 am    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
Most guys who make it to the NBA are hard workers. That said, it takes a lot of mental discipline to shoot 3-pointers for an hour or two straight without zoning out. Even in the A personality type world of the NBA, the Reggie Millers and Kobe Bryants who have that level of mental stamina are rare.


It's separates the really good from the legendary greats.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:11 am    Post subject:

NBA schedule is brutal. You have games every other day, sometimes b2b and a lot of travel in between. That's why even Reggie said he does 1500 shots during off season.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5hKkFMkEk8

15 shots (taken not made) in 1 minute, that's 100 minutes (1 hour and 40 minutes) to take 1500. Let's say it's 2 hours, it's definitly possible during offseason, and you still have time to work on your body and other basketball skills.

If it's 1500 made, you need probably around 3 hours. Never did something like that in my life so I'm just guessing...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:24 am    Post subject:

What happens if someone only takes 1499 shots a day?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:27 am    Post subject:

if its shots 1500 is doable. at a shot every 5 seconds you can hit that in about 2 hours, not factoring to fatigue that would set in shooting like that nonstop though
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:21 am    Post subject:

Let's be clear about what Reggie said.

Reggie Miller said he MADE 1,500 shots in the off season every day. He clarified it later when he said he didn't do it in a row. Rather he would be in and out of the gym all day and by the evening he would have totaled 1,500 made three pointers throughout the course of the day.

He also went on to say that these young Lakers players should be in the gym making 1,000 three point shots every day during the off season. He was specifically referring to Brandon Ingram. I am inclined to agree with him. A player that makes a living beyond the arc is someone who should hone that craft aggressively.

Players like Reggie Miller, Kobe (etc) are gym rats. So this is no big stretch to make this sort of suggestion. But if you don't have a passion and drive to excel, there is just no way anyone will ever make this a consistent part of their off season regiment.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject:

What we need is an elite shooting coach like the Spurs have in Chip Engellend
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject:

This is just about the notion of being in the gym a lot and being very productive every minute/hour/day while you're there on specific tasks or here a task. You can't help but improve if you have some goal like this that requires you day after day to hit a target, 1500 or 1000.

I think.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:58 pm    Post subject:

Big Game James wrote:
Let's be clear about what Reggie said.

Reggie Miller said he MADE 1,500 shots in the off season every day. He clarified it later when he said he didn't do it in a row. Rather he would be in and out of the gym all day and by the evening he would have totaled 1,500 made three pointers throughout the course of the day.

He also went on to say that these young Lakers players should be in the gym making 1,000 three point shots every day during the off season. He was specifically referring to Brandon Ingram. I am inclined to agree with him. A player that makes a living beyond the arc is someone who should hone that craft aggressively.

Players like Reggie Miller, Kobe (etc) are gym rats. So this is no big stretch to make this sort of suggestion. But if you don't have a passion and drive to excel, there is just no way anyone will ever make this a consistent part of their off season regiment.


He had to practice his bankers a lot. That's not as "easy" as cultivating a steady 3 point shot. You have to work to develop that. Plenty of other good shooters with great form like Houston, Rice, and Dennis Scott didn't have that. He was deadeye with those floating perimeter bankers (ugly release or not) even as a 2nd/3rd year guy. Not saying I like him, tho... Sorry, not sorry, Reggie.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject:

I'd argue that's too many shots unless you're learning how to make those same shots under different forms of duress.

Bryant actually practiced making 3s with contact.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:48 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
What happens if someone only takes 1499 shots a day?

isn't it obvious?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject:

I thought this thread was about Ozzie and Keith Richards going on vacation together.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:20 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
I'd argue that's too many shots unless you're learning how to make those same shots under different forms of duress.

Bryant actually practiced making 3s with contact.


I didn't like him relying too much on those treys where he pump faked numerous times with a defender right on his hip, but he made more of those than anyone else, save maybe TMac at his peak. Weird how good shooters prefer or lean towards certain kinds of 3s. No one is the same and few to none are good at every kind. Some guys like Dennis and Byron Scott were spot up shooters. Put a defender on either to make them put the ball on the floor and they had issues. Rice was a beautiful shooter, but you could tell he hated defense on his 3s. He was beholden to a 2-foot stance pointed at the rim. Easy to make him shoot under duress and even so with Shaq in the paint. Some of the best shooters are screen specialists (Rice, Ellis, Miller mostly). Dale Ellis could hit 3s while his body was still turning towards the rim after getting the pass from his blocking teammate. Some guys are killer from the wings, but aren't world class shooters in general (Bruce Bowen).

I think Kobe wanted to shoot those under duress partly because he was one of those players who liked a defender sticking to him so he could counter the contact, but also because he didn't want to allow defenders to force him off of his position. He got stripped probably a couple hundred times during his career while driving to the rim from the arc. Small hands and cute refs. Bell, Bowen, Battier might be able to strip him when he puts it on the floor, but they can't rise up with him on his shots. They soon began to counter that inability with bush league sh like "hand in eyes", putting feet in his landing zone, and being a b-made flopper in general.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:23 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
I'd argue that's too many shots unless you're learning how to make those same shots under different forms of duress.

Bryant actually practiced making 3s with contact.


I agree although everyone's practice routine is different and obviously it is hard to argue against a gym rat (and Hall of Fame Player) like Reggie Miller. He was truly one of the greatest shooters of all time so obviously his system along with his talent worked pretty well for him.

But I can pop in three's now (I am old) standing flat footed and shooting them from the same spot over and over. That doesn't translate to making the same percentage in a NBA game being contested and I agree with you MikeLG, that really you are probably better off doing 300 or even 200 shots but against defense or at least some type of obstacle as if was a real NBA shot...not just goofing in the gym.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject:

Bryant was one of the toughest defended guys I've ever seen.

My point was that, I don't think that so many reps are needed. Hell, just shoot 250 shots per corner. I think that's better than 500 per corner, and then having muscle fatigue alter your form and make it worse.

Not that I'm some well conditioned or muscular athlete, but I think it varies by person. I never shot more than 300 3s in a day (not makes, just shots), and fatigue kicked in, altering my form and breaking the good muscle memory for the first part of the exercise.

Better to have 250 quality shots, instead of just 500 shots just for sheer volume. Even Bryant's arc on his jumper changed throughout his career, and most nights, it was still flat, and that was prior to his ACL injury.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject:

A lot of you guys seem to be completely ignoring / undervaluing "muscle memory." A HUGE component of becoming a successful shooter.
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