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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:52 am Post subject: Aaron Hernandez commits suicide in prison |
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It was discovered early this morning that Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in prison. What a sad ending to a tragic life. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Wow. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Today's the day the Patriots are supposed to be at the White House. |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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So tragic. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Aaron Hernandez commits suicide in prison |
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ChickenStu wrote: | It was discovered early this morning that Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in prison. What a sad ending to a tragic life. |
The tragedy and sadness lies with the people he murdered. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
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Laker_Town Retired Number
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Just saw this and the first image that came to me was the of his little girl crying for him at the court.
Bad choices all around |
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LakersChamps04 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Aaron Hernandez commits suicide in prison |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | It was discovered early this morning that Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in prison. What a sad ending to a tragic life. |
The tragedy and sadness lies with the people he murdered. | without a doubt.
but i think theres also some sadness to his life because he was a troubled guy and he had so much going for him yet he couldnt leave that 'life'. |
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A true gangster to the end.
Say what you will about him, but on the field he was nails.
Great player, bad person. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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rwongega Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Aaron Hernandez commits suicide in prison |
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LakersChamps04 wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | It was discovered early this morning that Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in prison. What a sad ending to a tragic life. |
The tragedy and sadness lies with the people he murdered. | without a doubt.
but i think theres also some sadness to his life because he was a troubled guy and he had so much going for him yet he couldnt leave that 'life'. |
He had every chance to leave but chose not to. _________________ http://media.giphy.com/media/zNyBPu5hEFpu/giphy.gif
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xxsicrokerxx Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:27 am Post subject: |
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He was obviously murdered. He was in good spirits and optimistic that he could appeal his first case. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Puzzling! He was just acquitted for a double murder and was supposedly looking forward to a second trial for a murder conviction for which he was serving life without the possibility of parole.
Some don't believe he took his life. LINK Quote: | From some who knew Hernandez, there was skepticism surrounding the circumstances of his death and whether he committed suicide.
Hernandez's former agent, Brian Murphy, said there was "absolutely no chance he took his own life." |
He had the opportunity of a lifetime afforded by a unique talent. He just couldn't divest himself of a lifestyle. To make it simple, you can take the boy out of the the gangster but you can't take the gangster out of the boy. Hernandez was a product of his environment.
The Patriots are going to the White House today. Odd, Tom Brady's not going. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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leor_77 Franchise Player
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I heard it was a single-unit cell. Is Brady missing the WH visit because of this? |
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DuncanIdaho Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Some people commit suicide when it makes no sense to anyone else. I know this from very personal experience.
On a better note, now that he won't be spending all of his funds on lawyers, his daughter will have something to help her grow up with. She won't have a dad, but she wasn't going to anyway. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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leor_77 wrote: | I heard it was a single-unit cell. Is Brady missing the WH visit because of this? |
No personal family matters. LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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the association Star Player
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xxsicrokerxx wrote: | He was obviously murdered. He was in good spirits and optimistic that he could appeal his first case. |
This is really an unexpected development ... a decision to commit suicide runs completely counter to what I would have expected from Hernandez given the acquittals last week. I'm not prepared to point to foul play, but it certainly doesn't add-up to a logical suicide right now. As DI said upstream, every suicide doesn't come with a set of warning signs or reasoned "justifications".
Anyway, this turn is very, very, very sad for that little girl. Actually, it's just sad all around ... so many lives wrecked in the entire process. |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player
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xxsicrokerxx wrote: | He was obviously murdered. He was in good spirits and optimistic that he could appeal his first case. |
jodeke wrote: |
Hernandez's former agent, Brian Murphy, said there was "absolutely no chance he took his own life." |
I think he killed himself he already was so unstable that he killed people and being in jail for years now couldn't of helped |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:35 am Post subject: |
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It's possible that being acquitted in this last trial triggered him to snap in a way that being found guilty may not have. It seems counter-intuitive but he may have felt more guilty getting away with murder and duping this last jury. Or maybe with that trial over, the reality of spending the rest of his life in prison finally hit him and he just wanted it to be over.
One of the prison officials was saying how Hernandez had a tighter grip on his emotions that any prisoner he had ever met. I think the tight grip finally snapped. In that sense, it's a lot like the original murder. Some guy bumps into him at a bar and he had so much built up anger that he snapped, tracked the guy down and murdered him over nothing. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Probably killed himself because he was still in prison for life with no chance of parole even after the acquittal. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:43 am Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Probably killed himself because he was still in prison for life with no chance of parole even after the acquittal. |
this. finally hit him |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:59 am Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | It's possible that being acquitted in this last trial triggered him to snap in a way that being found guilty may not have. It seems counter-intuitive but he may have felt more guilty getting away with murder and duping this last jury. Or maybe with that trial over, the reality of spending the rest of his life in prison finally hit him and he just wanted it to be over.
One of the prison officials was saying how Hernandez had a tighter grip on his emotions that any prisoner he had ever met. I think the tight grip finally snapped. In that sense, it's a lot like the original murder. Some guy bumps into him at a bar and he had so much built up anger that he snapped, tracked the guy down and murdered him over nothing. |
This may have played into it:
Aaron Hernandez died innocent of murder, despite the conviction for which he was serving a life sentence.
It may be technical, but it's true. Aaron was convicted in 2015 of murdering Odin Lloyd. He was serving a life sentence when he was found hanging from his cell early Wednesday morning.
Under Massachusetts law, when a person dies while a criminal case is on appeal, the death effectively erases all the criminal proceedings ... it's as if Aaron was never arrested, never tried, never convicted.
The logic is that a person is not only entitled to a fair trial, they're entitled to appeal a conviction, and the process is not cemented until the appeal process is exhausted.
And there's more. Aaron is being sued civilly for wrongful death by Lloyd's family. When Aaron was alive, the family could use the criminal conviction to automatically establish liability ... but now they can't. They'll have to retry the murder allegation in front of a new jury, without Aaron present.
LINK _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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lakerjoshua Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Aaron Hernandez commits suicide in prison |
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LakersChamps04 wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | It was discovered early this morning that Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in prison. What a sad ending to a tragic life. |
The tragedy and sadness lies with the people he murdered. | without a doubt.
but i think theres also some sadness to his life because he was a troubled guy and he had so much going for him yet he couldnt leave that 'life'. |
He lost his dad when he was 16, not violently, from a surgery went wrong. He was a star HS player with a free ride at Florida which led him to a huge NFL deal. Other than his dad passing away there is nothing "troubling" about his childhood. He was given opportunities in life very few of us have been given. And the scumbag blew it.
Any sympathy for this creep is beyond my comprehension. |
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lakerjoshua Franchise Player
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DaMuleRules wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | It's possible that being acquitted in this last trial triggered him to snap in a way that being found guilty may not have. It seems counter-intuitive but he may have felt more guilty getting away with murder and duping this last jury. Or maybe with that trial over, the reality of spending the rest of his life in prison finally hit him and he just wanted it to be over.
One of the prison officials was saying how Hernandez had a tighter grip on his emotions that any prisoner he had ever met. I think the tight grip finally snapped. In that sense, it's a lot like the original murder. Some guy bumps into him at a bar and he had so much built up anger that he snapped, tracked the guy down and murdered him over nothing. |
This may have played into it:
Aaron Hernandez died innocent of murder, despite the conviction for which he was serving a life sentence.
It may be technical, but it's true. Aaron was convicted in 2015 of murdering Odin Lloyd. He was serving a life sentence when he was found hanging from his cell early Wednesday morning.
Under Massachusetts law, when a person dies while a criminal case is on appeal, the death effectively erases all the criminal proceedings ... it's as if Aaron was never arrested, never tried, never convicted.
The logic is that a person is not only entitled to a fair trial, they're entitled to appeal a conviction, and the process is not cemented until the appeal process is exhausted.
And there's more. Aaron is being sued civilly for wrongful death by Lloyd's family. When Aaron was alive, the family could use the criminal conviction to automatically establish liability ... but now they can't. They'll have to retry the murder allegation in front of a new jury, without Aaron present.
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Scumbag in life, scumbag in death... |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Aaron Hernandez commits suicide in prison |
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lakerjoshua wrote: | LakersChamps04 wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | It was discovered early this morning that Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in prison. What a sad ending to a tragic life. |
The tragedy and sadness lies with the people he murdered. | without a doubt.
but i think theres also some sadness to his life because he was a troubled guy and he had so much going for him yet he couldnt leave that 'life'. |
He lost his dad when he was 16, not violently, from a surgery went wrong. He was a star HS player with a free ride at Florida which led him to a huge NFL deal. Other than his dad passing away there is nothing "troubling" about his childhood. He was given opportunities in life very few of us have been given. And the scumbag blew it.
Any sympathy for this creep is beyond my comprehension. |
He has obvious mental problems I feel bad for anyone in prison. Doesnt mean we forget what they have done but understanding is a sign of higher emotional intelligence... not that I'm saying I'm intelligent because I'm not. All I'm saying is it must be torture to be stuck in Hernandez's mind.
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:17 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | It's possible that being acquitted in this last trial triggered him to snap in a way that being found guilty may not have. It seems counter-intuitive but he may have felt more guilty getting away with murder and duping this last jury. Or maybe with that trial over, the reality of spending the rest of his life in prison finally hit him and he just wanted it to be over.
One of the prison officials was saying how Hernandez had a tighter grip on his emotions that any prisoner he had ever met. I think the tight grip finally snapped. In that sense, it's a lot like the original murder. Some guy bumps into him at a bar and he had so much built up anger that he snapped, tracked the guy down and murdered him over nothing. |
This may have played into it:
Aaron Hernandez died innocent of murder, despite the conviction for which he was serving a life sentence.
It may be technical, but it's true. Aaron was convicted in 2015 of murdering Odin Lloyd. He was serving a life sentence when he was found hanging from his cell early Wednesday morning.
Under Massachusetts law, when a person dies while a criminal case is on appeal, the death effectively erases all the criminal proceedings ... it's as if Aaron was never arrested, never tried, never convicted.
The logic is that a person is not only entitled to a fair trial, they're entitled to appeal a conviction, and the process is not cemented until the appeal process is exhausted.
And there's more. Aaron is being sued civilly for wrongful death by Lloyd's family. When Aaron was alive, the family could use the criminal conviction to automatically establish liability ... but now they can't. They'll have to retry the murder allegation in front of a new jury, without Aaron present.
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I don't think Aaron Hernandez is smart enough to figure out the loopholes and his lawyer wouldn't have told him to commit suicide to save his estate. |
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