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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:57 am Post subject: |
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TRob is a classic case of overrating athleticism/clay and disregarding bball IQ and skill.
He does hustle and makes impact in garbage minutes. |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:16 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | What are the thoughts on him getting increased playing time next year?
If the Lakers trade Randle as is frequently suggested. Would Nance and Robinson be an acceptable PF duo? Possibly Black or Deng playing PF mpg?
Maybe add a PF with #28 or even #32 if the lottery balls are unkind.
Nance's health worries me but Robinson's energy with the 2nd unit or occasional starts throughout the season could be workable IMO. Prefer keeping Randle, but as an option Robinson isn't a bad one. |
For the minimum, I'd keep him.
Excellent athleticism and motor, but terrible BBALL IQ. Good 5th big man to have. |
We may do without Black next season if we need clear cap space, so we might be seeing more TRob. Tarik and his game are somewhat similar in that they are both good hustle/high motor guys who really try hard on every play.
TRob has better size, but Tarik has a way better BBall IQ.
Is it too lake for Trob to pick up the nuances of the game? I am wondering if an off season under Luke could help. I like Tarik, but he is so undersized, TRob could ultimately be a better defender because of that if he knew where to be on the floor. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:37 am Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | TRob is a classic case of overrating athleticism/clay and disregarding bball IQ and skill.
He does hustle and makes impact in garbage minutes. |
He rarely plays in any other situation. When he has played he has held his own.
That being said, since he has done well with garbage minutes, it suggests that he is at least better than most scrubs around the league.
Which bodes well for the overall team strength since he is at the end of the bench.
Hustle and heart are his calling cards ala Kurt Rambis. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:41 am Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | TRob is a classic case of overrating athleticism/clay and disregarding bball IQ and skill.
He does hustle and makes impact in garbage minutes. |
Agree but it is good to have that on the bench. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:41 am Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | TRob is a classic case of overrating athleticism/clay and disregarding bball IQ and skill.
He does hustle and makes impact in garbage minutes. |
TRob put up some gaudy stats in the last 10 games with the Nets last year too IIRC. Yet no team offered him a deal.
It's clearly not an athleticism issue. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:43 am Post subject: |
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T-Rob could potentially develop into our "Anthony Mason or Kurt Rambis." |
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:47 am Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | TRob is a classic case of overrating athleticism/clay and disregarding bball IQ and skill.
He does hustle and makes impact in garbage minutes. |
garbage minutes? so you call the 2nd and 3rd Quarter garbage minutes....seems like more of a classic case of hanging onto a tired narrative. The guy has played well in stretches lately....no need to hype it or diminish it. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:49 am Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | T-Rob could potentially develop into our "Anthony Mason or Kurt Rambis." |
Both were much better than T-Rob. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | pio2u wrote: | T-Rob could potentially develop into our "Anthony Mason or Kurt Rambis." |
Both were much better than T-Rob. |
but were they....or more like would they be in today's NBA? |
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | danzag wrote: | pio2u wrote: | T-Rob could potentially develop into our "Anthony Mason or Kurt Rambis." |
Both were much better than T-Rob. |
but were they....or more like would they be in today's NBA? |
Key words "potentially develop." |
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PayasoLoco Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | TRob is a classic case of overrating athleticism/clay and disregarding bball IQ and skill.
He does hustle and makes impact in garbage minutes. |
garbage minutes? so you call the 2nd and 3rd Quarter garbage minutes....seems like more of a classic case of hanging onto a tired narrative. The guy has played well in stretches lately....no need to hype it or diminish it. |
leading a 2nd quarter comeback = garbage time stats on LG |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Another good game from T-Rob (9 points 5 rebounds in 14 minutes). He's all heart & hustle; BUT his BBIQ leaves a lot to be desired |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina 7m7 minutes ago
Thomas Robinson said he's been told to try to improve the mental part of the thing, more of studying film, etc. |
Quote: | Mike TrudellVerified account @LakersReporter 8m8 minutes ago
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Robinson said they want him to focus on the “little things” of the game, the mental aspects, and said he’s really going to focus on that. |
Quote: | Los Angeles Lakers @Lakers
Thomas Robinson on Coach Walton: "For this crop of young players, there's nobody better for them than Luke."
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:38 am Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina 7m7 minutes ago
Thomas Robinson said he's been told to try to improve the mental part of the thing, more of studying film, etc. |
Quote: | Mike TrudellVerified account @LakersReporter 8m8 minutes ago
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Robinson said they want him to focus on the “little things” of the game, the mental aspects, and said he’s really going to focus on that. |
Quote: | Los Angeles Lakers @Lakers
Thomas Robinson on Coach Walton: "For this crop of young players, there's nobody better for them than Luke."
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Midrange jumpshots and better IQ will net him 2 more contracts. Physical attributes are already there, mental is still a work in progress. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Maybe TRob wants to be the next Matt "I've Been on Every NBA Team" Barnes? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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TheBlackMamba Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Man, you feel for a guy like TRob. He said he started feeling uneasy again as soon as game last night was over, because he just didn't know whether he'd end up on an NBA roster again like last summer. He's a good dude, and there's definitely a spot for him somewhere in the league with his combo of athleticism and motor. I'm not sure if it's with the Lakers, but he's an NBA player. |
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:33 am Post subject: |
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TheBlackMamba wrote: | Man, you feel for a guy like TRob. He said he started feeling uneasy again as soon as game last night was over, because he just didn't know whether he'd end up on an NBA roster again like last summer. He's a good dude, and there's definitely a spot for him somewhere in the league with his combo of athleticism and motor. I'm not sure if it's with the Lakers, but he's an NBA player. |
We could definitely use him again. He has limited potential but as an energy big off the bench; he is just what we need. |
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LakerDYnasty72 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Robinson, and players like Black, Nwaba, MWP, and Brewer, were the reason we couldn't tank "successfully" in the eyes of some. And I mean that in a good way.
Each of them has what we're trying to instill in our core: play hard all the time! They were playing hard when others had already mentally checked out. I definitely did not want to see it, but that little winning streak at the end of the season came from the hard work of these guys, just as much the talent of Ingram, Russell, etc., |
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ch3cky0selff00 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Robinson is also a very underrated passer. Dude was dropping some dimes that had me like..
I mean, as an end-of-the-bench type of big you could do much worst.. but I actually think he's a very solid back-up big.
I'm in the minority and please, spare me the statistics.. but I prefer him to Tarik Black. |
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MickMgl Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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TheBlackMamba wrote: | Man, you feel for a guy like TRob. He said he started feeling uneasy again as soon as game last night was over, because he just didn't know whether he'd end up on an NBA roster again like last summer. He's a good dude, and there's definitely a spot for him somewhere in the league with his combo of athleticism and motor. I'm not sure if it's with the Lakers, but he's an NBA player. |
It's guys like Robinson, Black, and Nance that may make a Randle trade possible. Not claiming that any of them are better or even necessarily as good, but when you look for tradeable assets that can bring back good value, having depth at that position with guys who can give good minutes is a factor. They can make the loss of Randle manageable. I don't see that same depth at guard or SF for the Lakers. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:24 am Post subject: |
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2017 Player Capsule: Thomas Robinson
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Robinson had a positive impact on the Lakers in his limited minutes. He did well to focus on his strengths – rebounding, athleticism – while still developing some other areas of his game, like on-ball defense and ball handling. For a guy that was worried about whether he’d even be able to make a team despite being the No. 5 overall pick in 2012, Robinson showed that he still has a place in the NBA.
He was able to hold up at either the power forward or center position off the bench. Lakers management told him that his defensive awareness needs to improve, but he does have the physical tools necessary to defend bigs on the perimeter and in the paint, versatility that’s valuable in the current NBA. In many a game, Robinson’s energy lifted the bench unit, which is definitely of value on its own. |
http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/170424-player-capsule-thomas-robinson?ls=related_stories |
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:46 am Post subject: |
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I like TRob for his effort, but not for his effect.
He looks like he'd make for a good third stringer PF-C on a lousy team for next year, which is what he was for the Lakers. There's probably someone who will need that again. For $1M, can any club hope to do better than him ? Probably not. |
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:23 am Post subject: |
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70sdude wrote: | I like TRob for his effort, but not for his effect.
He looks like he'd make for a good third stringer PF-C on a lousy team for next year, which is what he was for the Lakers. There's probably someone who will need that again. For $1M, can any club hope to do better than him ? Probably not. |
Absolutely one of the best "end of the bench" players in the league.
Huge improvement over Sacre Bleau except he can't dance. |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:56 am Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | TheBlackMamba wrote: | Man, you feel for a guy like TRob. He said he started feeling uneasy again as soon as game last night was over, because he just didn't know whether he'd end up on an NBA roster again like last summer. He's a good dude, and there's definitely a spot for him somewhere in the league with his combo of athleticism and motor. I'm not sure if it's with the Lakers, but he's an NBA player. |
We could definitely use him again. He has limited potential but as an energy big off the bench; he is just what we need. |
Yup- he is a rich man's sacre. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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