North Korea threatens nuclear attack on US west coast.

unleasHell · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:59 pm Post subject:

If someone threatens to kill a government official, a policemen or an even average Joe, they are typically dealt with.

It doesn't matter if they didn't have the capability (like a weapon) at the time of the threat, what matters is the threat itself and that persons' ability to follow through with the threat (such as to get gun)...

Fat Bot has threatened extreme violence and death upon US citizens and to NOT do anything because he does NOT YET have the ability to follow through with his threat is regoddamndiculous!

Especially when we know he is working on developing his nuclear weapons and once he does it will be too late...!

Also: it makes no sense to wipe out the North Korean civilization, when there is one lone turd making all the calls. We need to take him out, period, end of story!
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Gatekeeper · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:19 pm Post subject:

Norks Successfully Test ICBM

Nikki Haley Addresses UN Council

US Options for Dealing with Norks

(bleep) got real. We got less than two years (18 mos) before they're able to arm a nuclear device small enough to fit in their missile. Confident in Trump? Better hope for your sakes.

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Aeneas Hunter · Retired Number Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 31763

Forget the partisan elements of this for the moment. Here are the things you need to know:

There really isn't much we can do about North Korea.

We successfully tested an ABM system about a month ago.

No, Russia and China didn't like that very much. There used to be an ABM treaty, but we pulled out during the Dub administration.

But our ABM defense is still a work in progress.

lakersken80 · Retired Number Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 38771

Doesn't really matter who is president, North Korea was always intent on getting nuclear weapons. Its been their long term plan since the 1980's.
The problem with anti-ballistic missiles is that all it takes is one failed intercept and you got millions dead.
China and Russia was never going to help the US denuclearize North Korea, they have been supporting that state in one form or another since its beginning. Don't forget North Korea being belligerent also helps their policy goals toward the west.

Gatekeeper · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:06 pm Post subject:

Well, you can't wait until they develop the capability to hit any major US city; Russia and China aren't going to intervene unless they have something to lose from North Korea's actions or sanctions from the rest of the world. Pulling the US military out of South Korea is a no go. Military intervention, however minimal, seems inevitable.
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audioaxes · Franchise Player Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 12573

hate to say but surprise attack maybe something to consider on N Korea. There no doubt the US will crush them but the key is to cripple their ability to roll out artillery shells on S Korea as fast as possible.
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ContagiousInspiration · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:36 am Post subject:

This is a rocket

What will it take for them to create a nuclear warhead

How much more weight is added to payload

Do they have re-entry vehicle that can carry warheads?

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What's unknown is whether they've miniaturized a nuclear warhead. I doubt that they've achieved this breakthrough, but that doubt comes with a very important caveat: If they have miniaturized a warhead, I strongly suspect that they've been getting technical assistance from the PRC. There is something very alarming about the speed at which North Korea has been developing its longer-range missiles, and that speed problem isn't reduced by merely throwing more engineers at the problem. I'm sure I'm not the only one with that suspicion, though the US won't air it (at least not yet) as they are still hoping Beijing will reel them in.

They won't. They haven't in the past, and what is curious is that in addition to the breathtaking speed of development, there are plenty of signs of economic assistance from Beijing, in the form of new construction (non-military).

The PRC has three objectives in mind:

1) Reduce the number of refugees crossing from North Korea.

2) Prop up the North Korean state, lest it fall into the hands of South Korea. The last thing Beijing wants is a US ally on its border.

3) Reduce the influence of the US, first on the Asia-Pacific hemisphere, and ultimately on a global level. There is early evidence of the PRC and Russia cooperating to achieve the latter.

ICBM development doesn't reduce the first objective, but it explains non-military assistance. Asking them to tighten the screws on an economic boycott won't work because of that.

The military assistance does explain points 2 & 3. The PRC can use N. Korea as a poker chip, a proxy nuclear power that can threaten the US and US allies with a nuclear strike, all the while giving plausible denial. We've already seen terrified South Koreans protesting the presence of US anti-missile defense systems. I don't blame them, as placement of those anti-missile systems may protect us, not them... and it reduces the threshold in terms of preventing armed conflict. The civilian population of South Korea will take a beating, once that threshold breaks.

We live in dangerous times. I despise Trump, and the fact that he's the one with the ultimate decision scares the hell out of me. I detest the Obama administration for doing nothing, having engaged themselves in wishful thinking that the Chinese were going to work for us, not against us. There were half-right: Beijing could bring Pyongyang to its knees, but they were wrong about Beijing's willingness to do so.

One more disquieting note: North Korea has had weapons and technology exchanges with US-adversaries in the Middle East.

Aeneas Hunter · Retired Number Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 31763

^^^^

Russia is also a suspect in NK's rapid missile development. With Trump's focusing on China, it has flown under the radar that Russia has been supplying North Korea. Now Putin is trying to force the US into a multilateral deal that would be a first step toward reducing US influence in the region.

lakersken80 · Retired Number Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 38771

North Korea is their first line of defense. Thus the reason why Russia and China would love to empower them against the US.

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This is a problem the US has been wrestling with or at least knew was coming for decades.

Now however, it is becoming quite urgent if the news reports are accurate.

I don't pretend to be well versed enough to know the solution, but I think North Korea should be very careful about stepping any further over the line or it may get ugly.
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