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lakers0505
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| If Spurs lose game 3, I figure the Spurs will shutdown Kawhi for the series. Then its a wrap for the Warriors to go 12 - 0 into the finals. |
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| IceInMyVeins wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | At least Harden got his team to 3rd seed, that brings some "value" to the league. Any player from 5-8 seed shouldn't be considered. |
Do you have inside knowledge of what the League values? TV ratings, jersey sales, attendance, etc. |
The league doesn't vote for MVP.
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Finals don't start 'til June 1st even if both teams sweep. Us fans deserve better! Start the Finals right now! |
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PRLakeShow
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | IceInMyVeins wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | At least Harden got his team to 3rd seed, that brings some "value" to the league. Any player from 5-8 seed shouldn't be considered. |
Do you have inside knowledge of what the League values? TV ratings, jersey sales, attendance, etc. |
The league doesn't vote for MVP. |
And? I didn't ask who votes for MVP. Read the question again.
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | At least Harden got his team to 3rd seed, that brings some "value" to the league. Any player from 5-8 seed shouldn't be considered. |
as you said to me last week....that is a ridiculous statement.
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | At least Harden got his team to 3rd seed, that brings some "value" to the league. Any player from 5-8 seed shouldn't be considered. |
as you said to me last week....that is a ridiculous statement. |
Historically MVP voters disagree.
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| lakers0505 wrote: | | If Spurs lose game 3, I figure the Spurs will shutdown Kawhi for the series. Then its a wrap for the Warriors to go 12 - 0 into the finals. |
Losing Game 1 was it for the Spurs.
Couldn't blow that lead, Kawhi injury or not.
I wouldn't be surprised if they sit Kawhi the rest of the series right now.
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Spurs are doomed. If they had managed to not blow that game 1 lead they could've sowed the seeds of doubt for the Warriors. But the Warriors got re-energized with the comeback victory and chances are the Spurs will probably not win a game now. |
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| IceInMyVeins wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | IceInMyVeins wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | At least Harden got his team to 3rd seed, that brings some "value" to the league. Any player from 5-8 seed shouldn't be considered. |
Do you have inside knowledge of what the League values? TV ratings, jersey sales, attendance, etc. |
The league doesn't vote for MVP. |
And? I didn't ask who votes for MVP. Read the question again. |
All I do is dodge, dodge, dodge no matter what...
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It's pretty funny to think the pacers (did) and bulls (would) put up a better fight against the cavs than Boston. The 7 and 8 seeds 
The bad news is ainge is going to take this to heart and get some better talent  |
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| LakerSD wrote: | It's pretty funny to think the pacers (did) and bulls (would) put up a better fight against the cavs than Boston. The 7 and 8 seeds
The bad news is ainge is going to take this to heart and get some better talent |
In the playoffs, matchups matter much more than seeding. Seeding is great for home court but we've seen great teams win even without home court. If you've seen the size disparity between the Cavs and Celtics you would see why the Pacers and Raptors games were much closer. Cavs basically have a lay-up line to the basket because the Celtics are just a bunch of midgets. |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | lakers0505 wrote: | | If Spurs lose game 3, I figure the Spurs will shutdown Kawhi for the series. Then its a wrap for the Warriors to go 12 - 0 into the finals. |
Losing Game 1 was it for the Spurs.
Couldn't blow that lead, Kawhi injury or not.
I wouldn't be surprised if they sit Kawhi the rest of the series right now. |
I would sit him. As a layperson - based on what we are seeing - with the combination of knee and ankle injuries, it's not worth it to play him. |
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | It's pretty funny to think the pacers (did) and bulls (would) put up a better fight against the cavs than Boston. The 7 and 8 seeds
The bad news is ainge is going to take this to heart and get some better talent |
if the Cavs sweep the Celtics in this series, they may draft Markelle Fultz, but he'll be in Chicago for Jimmy Butler very fast and Gordon Hayward will become their off-season target.
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| You can't count the Celtics out in game 3. If they play to their highest potential they might only lose by 30. I believe in them. |
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| As much as I'm enjoying the Celtics getting destroyed, I do wish our kids could've taste the playoff and experience playing a contending team in a series |
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| MJST wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | It's pretty funny to think the pacers (did) and bulls (would) put up a better fight against the cavs than Boston. The 7 and 8 seeds
The bad news is ainge is going to take this to heart and get some better talent |
if the Cavs sweep the Celtics in this series, they may draft Markelle Fultz, but he'll be in Chicago for Jimmy Butler very fast and Gordon Hayward will become their off-season target. |
That's what I'm thinking too. |
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:39 am Post subject: |
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It is clear that LeBron doesn't deserve the MVP Award this season as it is as others have stated a regular season award and he had to pace himself over the course of the marathon.
I think Westbrook, Harden and Kawhi had more worthy regular seasons this year so I am cool with not having LeBron in the Final 3.
That said, it could not be more obvious that even in his 14th year in the league, he is far and away the best player in the league. I would put Kawhi second as I value two way play a lot more than others.
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | It's pretty funny to think the pacers (did) and bulls (would) put up a better fight against the cavs than Boston. The 7 and 8 seeds
The bad news is ainge is going to take this to heart and get some better talent |
if the Cavs sweep the Celtics in this series, they may draft Markelle Fultz, but he'll be in Chicago for Jimmy Butler very fast and Gordon Hayward will become their off-season target. |
That's what I'm thinking too. |
No way to Fultz for Butler. That's a dumb trade and I doubt Danny would do it. If they traded for Anthony Davis, maybe but not Butler who was starting to break down in the last game they lost.
Butler, Hayward and Thomas does not get you past the Cavs as they are currently constructed. Ainge will put them in a position to win a championship and they can't take on the Cavs now.
Build for the future with Fultz, Jaylen Brown and the guys they have overseas.
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Kawhi officially ruled out for Game 3.
Doubt he plays again this season, Pop will just fold the tents now.
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:40 am Post subject: |
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So we'll have a Finals matchup between 12-0 teams that faced... zero good teams en route to the Finals? Or 1, if we count the Jazz?
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | It's pretty funny to think the pacers (did) and bulls (would) put up a better fight against the cavs than Boston. The 7 and 8 seeds
The bad news is ainge is going to take this to heart and get some better talent |
if the Cavs sweep the Celtics in this series, they may draft Markelle Fultz, but he'll be in Chicago for Jimmy Butler very fast and Gordon Hayward will become their off-season target. |
The Celtics are closer to keeping Fultz and building for 3-4 years down the road than overreacting now. It isn't like they have some 30 yo players who are near the end of their prime.
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| Celtics overachieved this year. It would be a mistake to trade Fultz. |
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| MJST wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | It's pretty funny to think the pacers (did) and bulls (would) put up a better fight against the cavs than Boston. The 7 and 8 seeds
The bad news is ainge is going to take this to heart and get some better talent |
if the Cavs sweep the Celtics in this series, they may draft Markelle Fultz, but he'll be in Chicago for Jimmy Butler very fast and Gordon Hayward will become their off-season target. |
Or they draft Fultz so they can be good for the next 15 years. |
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| Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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And LeBron gets lucky again. IT is out for the playoffs. I mean there was no way Cleveland would have beaten the Celtics if IT was 100% healthy.
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