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Basketball Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:06 pm Post subject: Gordon Hayward signs with the Celtics |
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Figured a main post should be here for this topic. |
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lakers0505 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Gordon Hayward signs with the Celtics |
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He finally is able to leave, he also signed an offer sheet with the then Bobcats years ago as well. |
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Scoffs Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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This opens up a playoff spot in the West. With Memphis losing Z-bo, that may be another spot open, but Denver and Minnie are closer to competing than we are.
Boston still isn't good enough to beat the Cavs but they'll make the finals again in 2 seasons when Lebron leaves for the West. |
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george w kush Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Good for Hayward |
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JerryWest_44 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Another small market team gets dumped on .... |
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krisobe Star Player
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Lakers vs Celtics Finals 2020? |
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Scoffs wrote: | This opens up a playoff spot in the West. With Memphis losing Z-bo, that may be another spot open, but Denver and Minnie are closer to competing than we are.
Boston still isn't good enough to beat the Cavs but they'll make the finals again in 2 seasons when Lebron leaves for the West. |
Clippers and Utah going to be substantially worse next season. _________________ KOBE |
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Basketball Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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krisobe wrote: | Lakers vs Celtics Finals 2020? |
Just in time for LeBron's decline to set in... |
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Hammett Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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krisobe wrote: | Lakers vs Celtics Finals 2020? |
Everything is slowly falling into place. _________________ Lakers. Built different. |
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MIZ83 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Scoffs wrote: | This opens up a playoff spot in the West. With Memphis losing Z-bo, that may be another spot open, but Denver and Minnie are closer to competing than we are.
Boston still isn't good enough to beat the Cavs but they'll make the finals again in 2 seasons when Lebron leaves for the West. |
The Celts may not be done. I expect a trade. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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JerryWest_44 wrote: | Another small market team gets dumped on .... |
Problem for the NBA is that while small markets produce a rabid fanbase, the NBA millionaires don't want to live there. Places like Sacramento, Salt Lake City aren't exactly destination cities. |
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WestwoodWizard Sixth Man
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:56 am Post subject: |
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MIZ83 wrote: | Scoffs wrote: | This opens up a playoff spot in the West. With Memphis losing Z-bo, that may be another spot open, but Denver and Minnie are closer to competing than we are.
Boston still isn't good enough to beat the Cavs but they'll make the finals again in 2 seasons when Lebron leaves for the West. |
The Celts may not be done. I expect a trade. |
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/07/05/celtics-marc-gasol-memphis-trade/
Seems to be just speculation at this point, but it sure would be interesting if this were to happen. |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:39 am Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | JerryWest_44 wrote: | Another small market team gets dumped on .... |
Problem for the NBA is that while small markets produce a rabid fanbase, the NBA millionaires don't want to live there. Places like Sacramento, Salt Lake City aren't exactly destination cities. |
That really isn't the problem. For example, the owner of the Jazz is a billionaire, and so are the owners of a lot of small market teams. The problem is more about attracting players -- all else being equal, most players would have rather be elsewhere than Salt Lake City. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:20 am Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | JerryWest_44 wrote: | Another small market team gets dumped on .... |
Problem for the NBA is that while small markets produce a rabid fanbase, the NBA millionaires don't want to live there. Places like Sacramento, Salt Lake City aren't exactly destination cities. |
That really isn't the problem. For example, the owner of the Jazz is a billionaire, and so are the owners of a lot of small market teams. The problem is more about attracting players -- all else being equal, most players would have rather be elsewhere than Salt Lake City. |
Thats the point. The players don't want to live half of their time there. While these players can afford homes in LA, NY or Miami and live there during the summer, its the down time between NBA games where they spend their leisure time. The billionaire owners don't care. They can fly their private jets anywhere and they don't have to show up for the games except for the important ones. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:55 am Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | activeverb wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | JerryWest_44 wrote: | Another small market team gets dumped on .... |
Problem for the NBA is that while small markets produce a rabid fanbase, the NBA millionaires don't want to live there. Places like Sacramento, Salt Lake City aren't exactly destination cities. |
That really isn't the problem. For example, the owner of the Jazz is a billionaire, and so are the owners of a lot of small market teams. The problem is more about attracting players -- all else being equal, most players would have rather be elsewhere than Salt Lake City. |
Thats the point. The players don't want to live half of their time there. While these players can afford homes in LA, NY or Miami and live there during the summer, its the down time between NBA games where they spend their leisure time. The billionaire owners don't care. They can fly their private jets anywhere and they don't have to show up for the games except for the important ones. |
Winning is more important than anything else. Lamarcus chose San Antonio instead of Los Angeles. In fact, the Lakers haven't had a decent FA since Kobe ruptured his Achilles.
KG didn't want to go to Boston and concerns over their racism. But he liked the prospects of winning with Pierce and Ray Allen.
If the NBA owners want to equalize free agency chances, then they should take state and Canadian tax laws into account when determining salaries. But they don't. Because it's just not that important enough to the NBA. |
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Scoffs Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Utah should've traded Hayward last season and gotten something back. The risk of losing your greatest asset because he might stay is too great. They would've gotten some nice picks from Boston.
Cleveland should trade Kyrie and Lebron this season before they bolt as well. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hammett wrote: | krisobe wrote: | Lakers vs Celtics Finals 2020? |
Everything is slowly falling into place. |
I think Philly has a better chance in the post-Lebron era. Celtics have players in the win now mentality and a bunch of draft picks. Hayward, Thomas and Horford won't be dethroning the Cavs anytime soon. |
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Krispy Kreme Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:06 am Post subject: |
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they might have to give up crowder, smart and bradley for hayward.
looks like a bad deal to me. the celtics better hope tatum pans out, otherwise their depth is gone if they give up even 2 of those 3 guys. _________________ Dominating every day. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:30 am Post subject: |
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This could actually be great for the Lakers:
Boston was the number One seed in the East last year, if Hayward helps them get past the Cav's (they will still get killed by the Warriors), then maybe that helps facilitate Lebron's exit.... _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.”
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Krispy Kreme Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:36 am Post subject: |
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if the Cavs are healthy, Boston has no chance versus them unless they get Marc Gasol. _________________ Dominating every day. |
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Shecky Sixth Man
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Krispy Kreme wrote: | if the Cavs are healthy, Boston has no chance versus them unless they get Marc Gasol. |
Don't look now but the Cavs are imploding. The Kyrie situation (and the reason he's asked to be traded) has everyone on edge. Nothing but bad vibes at this moment in Cleveland. They've gone from a "sure thing" to win the East to "likely...but we'll see." |
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999 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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(bleep)... I automatically have to hate this guy now |
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