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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerpark wrote: | Trade Clarkson, bring in Matt Thomas and a real vet point guard.
A real shooter and a real passer....not a ball stopper who can't shoot 3s.
JC, you showed so much potential as a rookie, what happened to you? |
JC never gave effort on the defensive end. When he was a rookie you could overlook this because he was a rookie and they are usually bad on D. But as the years have gone by he has continued to be a sieve on defense and it appears that he does not care. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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cal1piggy Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:07 pm Post subject: defense |
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how bad is his defense? |
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Big Game Jeff Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerpark wrote: | JC, you showed so much potential as a rookie, what happened to you? |
Trying to do too much... _________________ LAKERS RAIDERS KINGS DODGERS AZTECS MIDSHIPMEN |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
Joined: 24 Oct 2001 Posts: 47580
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: defense |
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cal1piggy wrote: | how bad is his defense? |
Could it be measurably worse than Clarkson's?
His game (drilling 3's like a white Reggie Miller) fits in any offense, I can tell you that. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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ispuds Rookie
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Iowa State fan here that watched all the Laker summer league games mostly to see Lonzo and curious too see if Matt Thomas would get some minutes.
I am pretty sure Matt had surgery after the college season for bone spurs. They bothered him all winter and some weeks his time in practice was pretty limited or non-existent. Some games his time was also limited by the bone spurs.
Some of his impressive shooting may have been helped by feeling so much better. He looked to be running and moving much easier than during the winter. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
Joined: 10 Apr 2001 Posts: 65135 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: defense |
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LakerLanny wrote: | cal1piggy wrote: | how bad is his defense? |
Could it be measurably worse than Clarkson's?
His game (drilling 3's like a white Reggie Miller) fits in any offense, I can tell you that. |
It's definitely largely worse than Clarkson's. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Matty "Ice (in my veins)"
Make it happen! |
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LakerDYnasty72 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Dr. Funkbot wrote: | Lakerpark wrote: | Trade Clarkson, bring in Matt Thomas and a real vet point guard.
A real shooter and a real passer....not a ball stopper who can't shoot 3s.
JC, you showed so much potential as a rookie, what happened to you? |
JC never gave effort on the defensive end. When he was a rookie you could overlook this because he was a rookie and they are usually bad on D. But as the years have gone by he has continued to be a sieve on defense and it appears that he does not care. |
I've always thought that he's given effort on the defensive end. I've never questioned his defensive effort, it's his defensive intelligence I question. |
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Scoffs Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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He'll have great value if he performs well; sign him before the Rockets, Clippers, Spurs, or Warriors do. He won't stay unsigned for long. |
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Jellojigglin Star Player
Joined: 18 May 2001 Posts: 1548 Location: Venice, California
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:16 am Post subject: |
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i think this player is a steal for the Lakers. Ignore the medical reports and remember how talented a shooter he is. He is absolutely clutch in watching him play. Sign this dude no baggage he's cheap and plays with joy. _________________ "Bobbin' and weavin' and let the good get even" |
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mirak Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:12 am Post subject: |
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ispuds wrote: | Iowa State fan here that watched all the Laker summer league games mostly to see Lonzo and curious too see if Matt Thomas would get some minutes.
I am pretty sure Matt had surgery after the college season for bone spurs. They bothered him all winter and some weeks his time in practice was pretty limited or non-existent. Some games his time was also limited by the bone spurs.
Some of his impressive shooting may have been helped by feeling so much better. He looked to be running and moving much easier than during the winter. |
Thanks for the insight, and welcome! |
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laker50 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Matt is a much better shooter than anyone on the team.
The least the Lakers should do is give him a good summer league contract to see if he can do it on a consistent basis. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Jellojigglin wrote: | i think this player is a steal for the Lakers. Ignore the medical reports and remember how talented a shooter he is. He is absolutely clutch in watching him play. Sign this dude no baggage he's cheap and plays with joy. |
He was definitely clutch with his 3s.
I just don't see him hanging with NBA players on the next level.
Not quick. Poor hanldes. Poor defense. Doesn't rebound well.
A poorer Redick?
Pelton seems to think shooting % is hard to predict in terms of summer league numbers carrying over to the big leagues. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Dr. Funkbot wrote: |
JC never gave effort on the defensive end. When he was a rookie you could overlook this because he was a rookie and they are usually bad on D. But as the years have gone by he has continued to be a sieve on defense and it appears that he does not care. |
effort is almost never the problem with JC's defense.....results are often an issue, but its not for lack of energy/effort |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Nicola Lupo @NikiLupo25
Iowa State guard Matt Thomas has signed with Spanish club Obradoiro, the team announced. He played a great Summer League with the Lakers _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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markjay Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:16 am Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Jellojigglin wrote: | i think this player is a steal for the Lakers. Ignore the medical reports and remember how talented a shooter he is. He is absolutely clutch in watching him play. Sign this dude no baggage he's cheap and plays with joy. |
He was definitely clutch with his 3s.
I just don't see him hanging with NBA players on the next level.
Not quick. Poor hanldes. Poor defense. Doesn't rebound well.
A poorer Redick?
Pelton seems to think shooting % is hard to predict in terms of summer league numbers carrying over to the big leagues. |
That may be the case, but he also shot 44-45% from the three point line in his last two years of college. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:18 am Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | Nicola Lupo @NikiLupo25
Iowa State guard Matt Thomas has signed with Spanish club Obradoiro, the team announced. He played a great Summer League with the Lakers |
Congrats MT, get that money!
(I wish we had signed him though) |
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AY2043 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:19 am Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | Nicola Lupo @NikiLupo25
Iowa State guard Matt Thomas has signed with Spanish club Obradoiro, the team announced. He played a great Summer League with the Lakers |
Aw. Was hoping for a 2 way k.
Oh well, he's the type that will do very well in Europe. |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:20 am Post subject: |
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I don't know who this basketball wtiter is so maybe wait until it's verified. He seems legit by looking at his Twitter feed. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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K2 Franchise Player
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:41 am Post subject: |
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cool cool.
Congrats Matthew Fox. |
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K2 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:12 am Post subject: |
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If Matt toiled around in the G-League (formerly the D-League), he was probably looking at around getting 19K-26K, unless he received a two-way contract which apparently means $75K plus getting up to 45days worth of a full minimum NBA salary.
So when Obradoiro (avg attendance 5,000 per game) was willing to sign him, it's understandable why he'd go overseas. Supposedly, the avg salary is around 65K or more per season. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Hope he makes the best out of his opportunity in Europe.
Maybe he can find a way back in the NBA. |
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Dilla_ Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:19 am Post subject: |
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I thought the Lakers would have gave Thomas a training camp invite and then cut him so he would become an affiliate player with the South Bay Lakers. _________________ Coach MWP. |
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NBALakerLegends Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Too bad we didn't use that two way contract on him. Good luck to him. We may see him back in the NBA if he balls out. |
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