A lot of 18-19 year old's I watch in college don't have a great gas tank, Fultz, Dennis Smith, Exum, etc. But Julius was at the bottom of that tier(maybe for the reason that PickNPop stated --- it's believed to be true in combat sports)
His conditioning improved last year --- it should improve again. But to think it's going to improve to the level where he can be a legit energy 2way player, IMO that's too far of a jump.
Each Pack adds an extra energy bar.
And since he has 10 of em...
I'm also hoping PNP is right about the bulky weight.
How much weight has he lost? Simple physics would suggest that carrying less mass would require less energy expenditure. If he can't play with high energy for 30 minutes, then he shouldn't play 30 minutes. Simple as that.
Hell ya, that is the common sense solution that I'm for.
Sigh. That's what was bugging me about this whole situation. It makes no sense that a player needs multiple seasons to get in shape. So he was supposedly down to 245 some time in the past, the same weight he is now...and we're supposed to be optimistic...meh, let's just see what happens. I'm sick and tired about hearing his conditioning being used as an excuse though. It's time to put up or shut up.
Maybe he should start doping with Epo?
I got cautious optimism for some Epo or regular conditioning leaps and bounds
He WAS in shape at the begining of the season. That's why early on (first 15-20 games) you saw consistent effort on defense and had everyone on here talking about how he had turned the corner. The guy was making all kinds of big defensive possession early on. He let himself get back out of shape somewhat (back up to 255-260) and the energy only showed in spurts. Luke got onto him about his inconsistent effort and he made a point to work on his effort, energy, and conditioning.
It all started with Julius Randle sliding into his DM’s.
Personal trainer and coined transformation specialist Amoila Cesar received a direct message from the Los Angeles Lakers forward, inquiring about transforming his body, after the season ended.
Cesar had recently transformed Johnny Stephene in 10 weeks (who most NBA fans recognize as dribble2much on Instagram), a ball-handling machine who’s worked with Kevin Durant and DeMar DeRozan, to name a few. The transformation caught Randle’s eye.
“One day a few weeks ago, Julius Randle writes me (on Instagram), and I thought it was a joke. I thought this wasn’t Julius sliding in my DMs, is he creeping me right now?” Cesar laughed. “Obviously he wasn’t…”
“When he reached out to me, the next day, he drove all the way to my location, to me. Most times, people they are kind of hesitant, this guy was there the next day. By the time he made the decision on who he wanted to work with, he was already locked in, and after we did the consultation, we were right in for our training the next day.”
At the time, Cesar wasn’t aware of the new fitness expectations announced by Lakers president of basketball operations Magic Johnson and general manager Rob Pelinka.
Randle, who was one of several Lakers in double-figures (a high 13.7 percent body fat at the end of March), got the message.
“When I met Julius, the first thing he told me was that he needed to drop weight, needed to be more explosive, and needed to be able to finish through contact. That’s one of his biggest things, dropping his body fat down, and reducing the pressure from his spine and lower back, not saying that he had any injuries or anything, but he felt heavy,” Cesar said. “When I met him, his goal was to aesthetically look better, perform better, and to really see a transformation in his body.”
Now, in his fifth week, Randle is at 8.6 percent body fat and 245 lbs. (compared to 258 lbs. at the end of the season). Cesar says the plan is for Randle to get down to 6-7 percent and stay anywhere from 240-245 lbs. Then, see how he moves.
“This will be new for him being around that weight, so it will be something he will have to learn, adjusting to that weight, being lighter on his feet. What we’re trying to do, is transition him to a much more explosive, agile player because as you know this game is changing, stretch 4s, stretch 3s, we want to make sure now he’s going against the LeBrons the Kevin Durants – these guys are the best in the game.
But, it’s much more than just a number on a machine. Randle was one of many Lakers who had his fair share of defensive struggles last season. How much was his conditioning (or lack thereof) a factor?
“Conditioning, of course,” Cesar said of looking at film of Randle last season. “I can see it on the film, you can see it in body language, as well. How often do you look to the coach? To the bench? These are minute things you pay attention to. He would say that conditioning might be one of the biggest factors, but also opening up his hips. The guy came off an injury (hip pointer last season), he was tight, his hips were very tight, I could barely stretch him his hamstrings were very tight. Every week I see this guy, he has much more hip mobility, his hamstrings are so much better. There are so many things improving that’s going to help him slide better, move across the court, be able to switch, be able to turn, fire off from all different angles, that’s going to increase his defensive presence, being able to respond, react.”
Cesar says he plans to train with Randle all the way up to the season, as much as the offseason allows with a three-pillar program that focuses on strength and conditioning, mobility (which includes rest and agility) and of course the biggest key: nutrition.
“Right now, really focusing on his diet…just like your muscles, your metabolism needs to be confused as well, also making sure that we systematically change his meal plans and the way he eats, so his body keeps moving, we want that furnace, so keep adding to that furnace.”
Randle admitted after the season, he needed to make big changes to his diet. Cesar says Randle’s even going as far as taking photos of his food to make sure it’s all in accordance with their plan.
There's a LOT MORE in the article, so I recommend ya'll check it out... again
And this time don't forget!!
You should know by now not to post positive articles that show how hard our young core are working for perfection. It doesn't fit the narrative. I for one, absolutely expect to see an uptick in Julius's effort level on defense. Given all the positive word from Luke regarding Julius guarding the perimeter, you almost HAVE to expect him to have progressed through the off-season.
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The guy was making all kinds of big defensive possession early on. He let himself get back out of shape somewhat (back up to 255-260) and the energy only showed in spurts. Luke got onto him about his inconsistent effort and he made a point to work on his effort, energy, and conditioning.
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When the guy became a new father and admitted losing sleep, I wouldn't push to get into shape either. The team was tanking. No need to push that hard mid-late season when the offseason offers plenty of time for getting into shape and recovery. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
I don't know if u guys heard Ireland a couple of days ago. He mentioned he saw Julius drilling like 20 something 3s in a row. I'm sure it's hyperbole, but I assume Julius was draining them.
Then he asked some assistants who said that's what Julius has been doing. Coming in early and shooting 500 3s then coming back in the afternoon and shooting 500 more.
He asked Luke. And Luke told him: Julius has been hitting his 3s in the gym, but let's see if he can do it in a game.
I like it.
I hope its true because I haven't seen any summer videos of him making any 3 pointers.
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LakerLand247 wrote:
epak wrote:
I don't know if u guys heard Ireland a couple of days ago. He mentioned he saw Julius drilling like 20 something 3s in a row. I'm sure it's hyperbole, but I assume Julius was draining them.
Then he asked some assistants who said that's what Julius has been doing. Coming in early and shooting 500 3s then coming back in the afternoon and shooting 500 more.
He asked Luke. And Luke told him: Julius has been hitting his 3s in the gym, but let's see if he can do it in a game.
I like it.
I hope its true because I haven't seen any summer videos of him making any 3 pointers.
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I don't know if u guys heard Ireland a couple of days ago. He mentioned he saw Julius drilling like 20 something 3s in a row. I'm sure it's hyperbole, but I assume Julius was draining them.
Then he asked some assistants who said that's what Julius has been doing. Coming in early and shooting 500 3s then coming back in the afternoon and shooting 500 more.
He asked Luke. And Luke told him: Julius has been hitting his 3s in the gym, but let's see if he can do it in a game.
I like it.
I hope its true because I haven't seen any summer videos of him making any 3 pointers.
So this is your first time in this thread? Because there has been a vid posted on nearly every page of just than for the past month and a half.
I don't know if u guys heard Ireland a couple of days ago. He mentioned he saw Julius drilling like 20 something 3s in a row. I'm sure it's hyperbole, but I assume Julius was draining them.
Then he asked some assistants who said that's what Julius has been doing. Coming in early and shooting 500 3s then coming back in the afternoon and shooting 500 more.
He asked Luke. And Luke told him: Julius has been hitting his 3s in the gym, but let's see if he can do it in a game.
I like it.
I hope its true because I haven't seen any summer videos of him making any 3 pointers.
So this is your first time in this thread? Because there has been a vid posted on nearly every page of just than for the past month and a half.
ugh people kill me with this. Or when they post "i hope it's true' when there's video evidence posted every other day showing him work on the jumper and the right hand finishes
Following the links I found this, says it's from 2017 so that'd be a week ago?
Not sure if posted already, if so, mods feel free to move or delete as appropriate.
My takeaways:
It's hard to tell if he's bigger or not.
He's playing with Swaggy, seems pretty clear that our FO is ridding the team of the Swaggy crew. So, not sure that's a good thing.
Shot looks good
Jawing with the ref in drew league? Hmm, chip on the shoulder or arrogance, not sure.
Ok, carry on
Cool, right hand finish, right hand inside out dribble, fade away from the low post, catch, one dribble then a short fadeaway from outside the restricted area. Nice.
1000 3's a day? Nice.
Watching Draymond Green Defense film with Luke? Nice.
Working hard on conditioning? Nice.
But Julius needs to...no his hair looks good. He needs to...ah yes, why is he playing Drew League when he should be in the GYM with Lonzo?!
I don't know if u guys heard Ireland a couple of days ago. He mentioned he saw Julius drilling like 20 something 3s in a row. I'm sure it's hyperbole, but I assume Julius was draining them.
Then he asked some assistants who said that's what Julius has been doing. Coming in early and shooting 500 3s then coming back in the afternoon and shooting 500 more.
He asked Luke. And Luke told him: Julius has been hitting his 3s in the gym, but let's see if he can do it in a game.
I like it.
I hope its true because I haven't seen any summer videos of him making any 3 pointers.
Then you haven't been looking.
I'm too lazy to look for it. Since apparently you saw them, then why don't you show me videos of him hitting some threes consistently? (2017 summer vids)
I don't know if u guys heard Ireland a couple of days ago. He mentioned he saw Julius drilling like 20 something 3s in a row. I'm sure it's hyperbole, but I assume Julius was draining them.
Then he asked some assistants who said that's what Julius has been doing. Coming in early and shooting 500 3s then coming back in the afternoon and shooting 500 more.
He asked Luke. And Luke told him: Julius has been hitting his 3s in the gym, but let's see if he can do it in a game.
I like it.
I hope its true because I haven't seen any summer videos of him making any 3 pointers.
Then you haven't been looking.
I'm too lazy to look for it. Since apparently you saw them, then why don't you show me videos of him hitting some threes consistently? (2017 summer vids)
Do a lil dance for him too while you're at it vlf.
I'm too lazy to look for it. Since apparently you saw them, then why don't you show me videos of him hitting some threes consistently? (2017 summer vids)
Julius Randle has to start taking those 3 pointers in games.
Like the Drew league was an opportunity.
The pre season games will be also.
Notice that Lopez did not take 3 pointers until 7 th season or so.
Julius plays too much exclusively inside. He has to play outside
to get the experience and to be versatile.
Especially when his opp is a tall big guy.
Off course his bread and butter is inside game.
That's the thing. Luke doesn't want Randle to play like a stretch 4. He's said it countless times, even in the off-season and interviews he's done.
He's said that Randle's shown an improved jumper and three point shot, and same for Nance. But at the same time he doesn't want them to fall in love with the three and break away from what they do best inside.
From Luke's perspective, he wants their three point/jump shot to be there just to keep the defense honest if they're left wide open. But not to be utilized as a primary attack option.
Luke sounds like he just wants them to be able to hit the three should the opportunity present itself, as opposed to taking 3-4 a game. Because he doesn't want them to get away from what they do best.
In a way it makes a lot of sense, because even if Julius and Nance were taking 2 threes a game, just making one forces the defense to have to either play them closer or closeout faster, which opens up more things for Nance or Julius to do and it doesn't compromise their styles.
So I can see it from Luke's perspective. He very obviously doesn't want Julius or Nance playing like stretch 4s, he just wants them to be able to hit that shot if the opportunity presents itself so they can force the defense to have to change the gameplan. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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I'm too lazy to look for it. Since apparently you saw them, then why don't you show me videos of him hitting some threes consistently? (2017 summer vids)
One of the ones from earlier in the thread:
Yea. I saw that one. That was one shot. Where is the video of Randle shooting threes and making them consistently? I'm still looking for that video.
The guy was making all kinds of big defensive possession early on. He let himself get back out of shape somewhat (back up to 255-260) and the energy only showed in spurts. Luke got onto him about his inconsistent effort and he made a point to work on his effort, energy, and conditioning.
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When the guy became a new father and admitted losing sleep, I wouldn't push to get into shape either. The team was tanking. No need to push that hard mid-late season when the offseason offers plenty of time for getting into shape and recovery.
Absolutely agree. Unless you've been a new father dealing with those late nights/early mornings on top of every two hour feedings, you don't understand the drain it takes. I'm expecting a much better effort level this year. One that will be sustained for consistent stretches.
I'm too lazy to look for it. Since apparently you saw them, then why don't you show me videos of him hitting some threes consistently? (2017 summer vids)
One of the ones from earlier in the thread:
Yea. I saw that one. That was one shot. Where is the video of Randle shooting threes and making them consistently? I'm still looking for that video.
You need to follow @trainao on Instagram. He pretty much posts daily on his story (they disappear after 24 hours) of Julius shooting 3s and practicing finishing with the right hand.
I'm too lazy to look for it. Since apparently you saw them, then why don't you show me videos of him hitting some threes consistently? (2017 summer vids)
One of the ones from earlier in the thread:
Yea. I saw that one. That was one shot. Where is the video of Randle shooting threes and making them consistently? I'm still looking for that video.
Literally one...page...back... (3rd video)
MJST wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
There is nothing Julius can do in a weight room that would change my opinion of him. Seeing him in a gym running ball-handling drills with his right hand for hours and hours? Yup. In the gym draining thousands of jumpshots from all areas of the floor every day? Sure.
I know how hard it is to get into that kind of shape, so good for him I guess. As a fan I only care about how that translates to the basketball court. He isn't entering a bodybuilding competition. He's going to have to improve drastically as a basketball player or I think he should be traded. Make or break year.
If you're as invested, you'd have caught the videos already out there
It's out there, all you need to do is look Or keep up with the thread
I'm too lazy to look for it. Since apparently you saw them, then why don't you show me videos of him hitting some threes consistently? (2017 summer vids)
One of the ones from earlier in the thread:
Yea. I saw that one. That was one shot. Where is the video of Randle shooting threes and making them consistently? I'm still looking for that video.
Literally one...page...back... (3rd video)
MJST wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
There is nothing Julius can do in a weight room that would change my opinion of him. Seeing him in a gym running ball-handling drills with his right hand for hours and hours? Yup. In the gym draining thousands of jumpshots from all areas of the floor every day? Sure.
I know how hard it is to get into that kind of shape, so good for him I guess. As a fan I only care about how that translates to the basketball court. He isn't entering a bodybuilding competition. He's going to have to improve drastically as a basketball player or I think he should be traded. Make or break year.
If you're as invested, you'd have caught the videos already out there
It's out there, all you need to do is look :) Or keep up with the thread ;)
Gotta love the "I'm too lazy to look for evidence to the contrary, so I'm just going to keep posting my uninformed opinion as fact" attitude that seems to be prevalent in this thread
Gotta love the "I'm too lazy to look for evidence to the contrary, so I'm just going to keep posting my uninformed opinion as fact" attitude that seems to be prevalent in this thread
I love it at least as much as the "He just had a baby and was too tired to play hard for his $363,000.00 game checks" at age 22 excuse.
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Gotta love the "I'm too lazy to look for evidence to the contrary, so I'm just going to keep posting my uninformed opinion as fact" attitude that seems to be prevalent in this thread
I love it at least as much as the "He just had a baby and was too tired to play hard for his $363,000.00 game checks" at age 22 excuse.
I was making $202.50/month in the Navy when my son was born. I did midnight feedings, etc., and was exhausted constantly, but managed to show up every day, study for my quals (working on aircraft engines), stand watches after work, etc.
I would say Ju did just fine as a 2nd year player. To listen to some of you guys he was utter garbage lol.
He had some brilliant games last year. And he also had some stinkers. Perfectly fine for a 2nd year player
Also, what does your job in the Navy have to do with anything? Lol I work with sailors all the time and you're straight up lying if you say you didn't slack off at any time or brought 100% effort every second of every watch
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