Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
That might work for you but I never saw the guy as a player. All my memories of the Lakers don't start till the 1997 Playoffs where Kobe air-balled the GW against Utah. All Byron is to me is the worst Lakers head coach ever and I don't like him.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:18 pm Post subject:
DancingBarry wrote:
Another thing...I hope someday soon places like ESPN will stop hiring old NBAers to provide commentary or insight on a game that has passed them by. Increasingly annoying to listen to.
Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
That might work for you but I never saw the guy as a player. All my memories of the Lakers don't start till the 1997 Playoffs where Kobe air-balled the GW against Utah. All Byron is to me is the worst Lakers head coach ever and I don't like him.
Byron was actually on that roster as a player
but I feel you, I never saw him play so I can't help but see him as a coach. Although, I don't feel any hatred towards him anymore. Once a Lakers legend, always a Lakers legend. _________________ “Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe
Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
That might work for you but I never saw the guy as a player. All my memories of the Lakers don't start till the 1997 Playoffs where Kobe air-balled the GW against Utah. All Byron is to me is the worst Lakers head coach ever and I don't like him.
Byron was actually on that roster as a player
but I feel you, I never saw him play so I can't help but see him as a coach. Although, I don't feel any hatred towards him anymore. Once a Lakers legend, always a Lakers legend.
haha I know he was in that game... but I don't remember him in that game lol
Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
That might work for you but I never saw the guy as a player. All my memories of the Lakers don't start till the 1997 Playoffs where Kobe air-balled the GW against Utah. All Byron is to me is the worst Lakers head coach ever and I don't like him.
Oh boo hoo. Whether you saw him or not you're old enough to understand his impact and import to the franchise as a player.
Or just keep beating a dead horse, whatever floats your boat.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:22 pm Post subject:
TDRock wrote:
DancingBarry wrote:
Another thing...I hope someday soon places like ESPN will stop hiring old NBAers to provide commentary or insight on a game that has passed them by. Increasingly annoying to listen to.
Truth
People love to see a familiar face. Basically the whole reason Byron was hired.
Byron Scott didn't retire from coaching. Coaching retired from Byron Scott. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
Effin right on, Fletcha. Exactly what I was gonna post about. I was about to say, "Where's yinoma to tell us to move on while citing the mod's sticky about negativity?" _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
That might work for you but I never saw the guy as a player. All my memories of the Lakers don't start till the 1997 Playoffs where Kobe air-balled the GW against Utah. All Byron is to me is the worst Lakers head coach ever and I don't like him.
Byron was actually on that roster as a player
but I feel you, I never saw him play so I can't help but see him as a coach. Although, I don't feel any hatred towards him anymore. Once a Lakers legend, always a Lakers legend.
haha I know he was in that game... but I don't remember him in that game lol
His last game ever was the single win LA got vs Utah in 97 and 98. Most people remember those series as both sweeps. He had a good performance to boot. Fell on his wrist and that was the end.
And as bad as his coaching daze went with us, he didn't have Lonzo Ball or this FO. He had a guy in Zo's place who time will prove wasn't mature enough to have as much responsibility and expectations as he did here. That was a recipe for failure even for Walton whom we don't complain about. Oddly enough, it was the opposite for Luke. Much of the reactionary, youngns at LG called him Puke as a player and now they like him. Reverse for Byron. I feel bad for By. Wish he never got the gig in hindsight. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
That might work for you but I never saw the guy as a player. All my memories of the Lakers don't start till the 1997 Playoffs where Kobe air-balled the GW against Utah. All Byron is to me is the worst Lakers head coach ever and I don't like him.
Oh boo hoo. Whether you saw him or not you're old enough to understand his impact and import to the franchise as a player.
Or just keep beating a dead horse, whatever floats your boat.
Should you really be the one saying boo hoo following that plea to leave him alone. He's a terrible coach and some fans will only remember him as such. You need to let it go. _________________ "It was tough," Kobe Bryant said. "But when it got really tough for me, I just checked myself in."
Sort of the way a guy with the barest history of success retires from anything; when you can't find work in your industry, the workplace has retired you.
He's wealthy enough to try the lecture circuit, youth development programs, community outreach activities. Or golf.
Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
That might work for you but I never saw the guy as a player. All my memories of the Lakers don't start till the 1997 Playoffs where Kobe air-balled the GW against Utah. All Byron is to me is the worst Lakers head coach ever and I don't like him.
Byron was actually on that roster as a player
but I feel you, I never saw him play so I can't help but see him as a coach. Although, I don't feel any hatred towards him anymore. Once a Lakers legend, always a Lakers legend.
haha I know he was in that game... but I don't remember him in that game lol
His last game ever was the single win LA got vs Utah in 97 and 98. Most people remember those series as both sweeps. He had a good performance to boot. Fell on his wrist and that was the end.
And as bad as his coaching daze went with us, he didn't have Lonzo Ball or this FO. He had a guy in Zo's place who time will prove wasn't mature enough to have as much responsibility and expectations as he did here. That was a recipe for failure even for Walton whom we don't complain about. Oddly enough, it was the opposite for Luke. Much of the reactionary, youngns at LG called him Puke as a player and now they like him. Reverse for Byron. I feel bad for By. Wish he never got the gig in hindsight.
None of the things you mentioned are the reasons why he was an awful coach, though. He was an awful coach because of his stubbornness, pride, hypocrisy, and lack of self awareness (which was an extension of his pride and stubbornness). It's pretty difficult to sympathize with a guy who chose, game after game, loss after loss, to trash his team by questioning their manhood and slapping them in their faces instead of reflecting on his own possible shortcomings as their own head coach.
I get that some of you have fond memories of him from the Showtime days, but some of us did not yet exist during the Showtime era. The only personal memories I have of him are from his two years of being a willfully horrible coach. He just sucked. It's that simple. That's why he ain't coaching. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:28 am Post subject:
non-player zealot wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
VegasLakerFan wrote:
Aw c'mon, leave him alone. Now that he's not our coach we should try to remember him as Byron the player, not Byron the tank commander.
That might work for you but I never saw the guy as a player. All my memories of the Lakers don't start till the 1997 Playoffs where Kobe air-balled the GW against Utah. All Byron is to me is the worst Lakers head coach ever and I don't like him.
Byron was actually on that roster as a player
but I feel you, I never saw him play so I can't help but see him as a coach. Although, I don't feel any hatred towards him anymore. Once a Lakers legend, always a Lakers legend.
haha I know he was in that game... but I don't remember him in that game lol
His last game ever was the single win LA got vs Utah in 97 and 98. Most people remember those series as both sweeps. He had a good performance to boot. Fell on his wrist and that was the end.
And as bad as his coaching daze went with us, he didn't have Lonzo Ball or this FO. He had a guy in Zo's place who time will prove wasn't mature enough to have as much responsibility and expectations as he did here. That was a recipe for failure even for Walton whom we don't complain about. Oddly enough, it was the opposite for Luke. Much of the reactionary, youngns at LG called him Puke as a player and now they like him. Reverse for Byron. I feel bad for By. Wish he never got the gig in hindsight.
I respect that take, and if Byron hadn't been such a huge media critic who then jumped in as a coach and looked as bad as any coach I've ever seen, having neither a grasp of personnel nor x and o stuff, I'd share it too. And I'd be more sanguine if he wasn't still in magic's ear. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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