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justsomelakerfan
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| BennyLava wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | Man we need some NBA games to happen NOW  |
Agreed! 😂 |
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Can OKC pay PG13 anymore money if he re-signs there? I can't remember.
If they can't pay more, here's a pipe dream that I'd like to see:
LAL sign & trade PG13 to GSW for Klay Thompson.
Obviously this is random as hell and relies on a ton of ifs LOL, but it's the offseason and I'm bored.
This assumes GSW really wants PG13 and Klay prefers LAL over OKC.
Ball
Thompson
Ingram
Randle
Lopez
Would be a great offseason for me. (I prefer Klay for this team than George) |
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PRLakeShow
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| 22 wrote: | Can OKC pay PG13 anymore money if he re-signs there? I can't remember.
If they can't pay more, here's a pipe dream that I'd like to see:
LAL sign & trade PG13 to GSW for Klay Thompson.
Obviously this is random as hell and relies on a ton of ifs LOL, but it's the offseason and I'm bored.
This assumes GSW really wants PG13 and Klay prefers LAL over OKC.
Ball
Thompson
Ingram
Randle
Lopez
Would be a great offseason for me. (I prefer Klay for this team than George) |
You can't sign and trade free agents of other teams.
And yes, OKC can pay him more and add a 5th year to his contract but he'll likely sign a 2+1 deal to cash in on that 10-year max deal. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | BennyLava wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Man we need some NBA games to happen NOW |
Agreed! 😂 |
Disagree. |
Agree to disagree |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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You can't sign and trade free agents of other teams.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| So Westbrook tells the Thunder FO that he's not signing a extension and is gonna bolt next summer .. and the Thunder offer Westbrook for Lonzo Ball do you accept the trade? |
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PRLakeShow
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | So Westbrook tells the Thunder FO that he's not signing a extension and is gonna bolt next summer .. and the Thunder offer Westbrook for Lonzo Ball do you accept the trade? |
No. Just wait till next summer then. Same thing we are doing with PG. |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| PRLakeShow wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | So Westbrook tells the Thunder FO that he's not signing a extension and is gonna bolt next summer .. and the Thunder offer Westbrook for Lonzo Ball do you accept the trade? |
No. Just wait till next summer then. Same thing we are doing with PG. |
Yep, just what I was thinking but some of these guys might change there mind by the time FA starts next summer if they do have LA on there wishlist... If we get WB and LeBron I would say that the NBA should be very scared. |
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PRLakeShow
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | PRLakeShow wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | So Westbrook tells the Thunder FO that he's not signing a extension and is gonna bolt next summer .. and the Thunder offer Westbrook for Lonzo Ball do you accept the trade? |
No. Just wait till next summer then. Same thing we are doing with PG. |
Yep, just what I was thinking but some of these guys might change there mind by the time FA starts next summer if they do have LA on there wishlist... If we get WB and LeBron I would say that the NBA should be very scared. |
They can also change their minds even if we trade for them. So if they bolt then you gave up a transcendent talent in Ball for nothing. Ouch. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| PRLakeShow wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | So Westbrook tells the Thunder FO that he's not signing a extension and is gonna bolt next summer .. and the Thunder offer Westbrook for Lonzo Ball do you accept the trade? |
No. Just wait till next summer then. Same thing we are doing with PG. |
But would Westbrook be upset we didn't try to trade for him as PG was?
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Triangle offense is dead imo. It's just too inefficient in the modern NBA game.
Lonzo is going to run, run, run in transition. When it's half court possessions, there will be a lot of passing guys open, cuts, screens, etc. in a nutshell a lot of Ball movement.
The triangle offense would be effective if it's a quick decision making with sharp shooters, but honestly today's NBA is about all 5 guys contributing. Triangle and Iso ball won't get you far imo. |
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?r52mjlnytcskpgj
Educate yourself.
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Lucky_Shot
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| JUST-MING wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Alex KennedyVerified account
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As @PeterVecsey1 stated on podcast: Phil Jackson wanted to deal Kristaps Porzingis for #1 pick to draft Lonzo Ball.
FWIW, it's Peter Vecsey. According to him, Fultz would have gone to the Lakers, Porky to the Celtics, and Lonzo to the Knicks. |
Interesting. Maybe Phil learned some things about direction of NBA into fast paced ball movement. RIP #triangleoffense |
Huh? Lonzo's like the perfect Triangle PG, and the system has nothing to do with transition pace.
I predicted Phil wanted Lonzo. In terms of basketball it was too much of a fit. He might have had a chance if Boston didn't trade with Philly. |
Triangle offense is dead imo. It's just too inefficient in the modern NBA game.
Lonzo is going to run, run, run in transition. When it's half court possessions, there will be a lot of passing guys open, cuts, screens, etc. in a nutshell a lot of Ball movement.
The triangle offense would be effective if it's a quick decision making with sharp shooters, but honestly today's NBA is about all 5 guys contributing. Triangle and Iso ball won't get you far imo. |
The triangle is not an ISO offense. Each sequence incorporates three players who formed a triangle.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?r52mjlnytcskpgj
Educate yourself. |
The triangle might be the most successful offense of all-time, at-least it has been since I've been alive.
I'm more of an analytics guy and when I was younger my favorite offense was the SSOL. But while the system matters you can win with any halfway decent system if the team has talent and is built to run it. |
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Lakerfan 4 Life
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Alex KennedyVerified account
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As @PeterVecsey1 stated on podcast: Phil Jackson wanted to deal Kristaps Porzingis for #1 pick to draft Lonzo Ball.
FWIW, it's Peter Vecsey. According to him, Fultz would have gone to the Lakers, Porky to the Celtics, and Lonzo to the Knicks. |
Interesting. Maybe Phil learned some things about direction of NBA into fast paced ball movement. RIP #triangleoffense |
Huh? Lonzo's like the perfect Triangle PG, and the system has nothing to do with transition pace.
I predicted Phil wanted Lonzo. In terms of basketball it was too much of a fit. He might have had a chance if Boston didn't trade with Philly. |
Triangle offense is dead imo. It's just too inefficient in the modern NBA game.
Lonzo is going to run, run, run in transition. When it's half court possessions, there will be a lot of passing guys open, cuts, screens, etc. in a nutshell a lot of Ball movement.
The triangle offense would be effective if it's a quick decision making with sharp shooters, but honestly today's NBA is about all 5 guys contributing. Triangle and Iso ball won't get you far imo. |
The Triangle isn't dead. Warriors still use it and so does Luke. They runs some sets of the Triangle.
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22
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| PRLakeShow wrote: | | 22 wrote: | Can OKC pay PG13 anymore money if he re-signs there? I can't remember.
If they can't pay more, here's a pipe dream that I'd like to see:
LAL sign & trade PG13 to GSW for Klay Thompson.
Obviously this is random as hell and relies on a ton of ifs LOL, but it's the offseason and I'm bored.
This assumes GSW really wants PG13 and Klay prefers LAL over OKC.
Ball
Thompson
Ingram
Randle
Lopez
Would be a great offseason for me. (I prefer Klay for this team than George) |
You can't sign and trade free agents of other teams.
And yes, OKC can pay him more and add a 5th year to his contract but he'll likely sign a 2+1 deal to cash in on that 10-year max deal. |
Ah dangit. Thanks tho |
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| Geeez, how far has Derrick Williams fallen? This guy was super hyped coming out of college and now he can't even sign with a team in a groundhog days of August |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Geeez, how far has Derrick Williams fallen? This guy was super hyped coming out of college and now he can't even sign with a team in a groundhog days of August |
I'd give him a camp invite. See what he's got left.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Geeez, how far has Derrick Williams fallen? This guy was super hyped coming out of college and now he can't even sign with a team in a groundhog days of August |
I'd give him a camp invite. See what he's got left. |
A camp intime sounds right. The talent is probably there, he's
gotten lost in the game. Maybe MWP can refer his to a good shrink,
hopefully he does find his way; in all seriousness.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Geeez, how far has Derrick Williams fallen? This guy was super hyped coming out of college and now he can't even sign with a team in a groundhog days of August |
Because he's proven that he can't play. It happens all the time , ask Darko. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Alex KennedyVerified account
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As @PeterVecsey1 stated on podcast: Phil Jackson wanted to deal Kristaps Porzingis for #1 pick to draft Lonzo Ball.
FWIW, it's Peter Vecsey. According to him, Fultz would have gone to the Lakers, Porky to the Celtics, and Lonzo to the Knicks. |
Interesting. Maybe Phil learned some things about direction of NBA into fast paced ball movement. RIP #triangleoffense |
Huh? Lonzo's like the perfect Triangle PG, and the system has nothing to do with transition pace.
I predicted Phil wanted Lonzo. In terms of basketball it was too much of a fit. He might have had a chance if Boston didn't trade with Philly. |
Triangle offense is dead imo. It's just too inefficient in the modern NBA game.
Lonzo is going to run, run, run in transition. When it's half court possessions, there will be a lot of passing guys open, cuts, screens, etc. in a nutshell a lot of Ball movement.
The triangle offense would be effective if it's a quick decision making with sharp shooters, but honestly today's NBA is about all 5 guys contributing. Triangle and Iso ball won't get you far imo. |
The Triangle isn't dead. Warriors still use it and so does Luke. They runs some sets of the Triangle. |
Dead is wrong word. Of course they use it some as I said in previous posts. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| JUST-MING wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: |
Triangle offense is dead imo. It's just too inefficient in the modern NBA game.
Lonzo is going to run, run, run in transition. When it's half court possessions, there will be a lot of passing guys open, cuts, screens, etc. in a nutshell a lot of Ball movement.
The triangle offense would be effective if it's a quick decision making with sharp shooters, but honestly today's NBA is about all 5 guys contributing. Triangle and Iso ball won't get you far imo. |
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?r52mjlnytcskpgj
Educate yourself.
Are you interested in the intricacies of the Triangle? by Wilt |
I don't need to educate myself. Don't worry about me, thanks. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Knicks are trying to trade KP on draft day to Celtics 1st overall pick & looking to select Lonzo Ball.
It seems NYK really serious on trading KP. Can we trade for him w/o sending Lonzo & Ingram? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| jankobe wrote: | Knicks are trying to trade KP on draft day to Celtics 1st overall pick & looking to select Lonzo Ball.
It seems NYK really serious on trading KP. Can we trade for him w/o sending Lonzo & Ingram? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Geeez, how far has Derrick Williams fallen? This guy was super hyped coming out of college and now he can't even sign with a team in a groundhog days of August |
Give it a year or two. He will be a Laker.
He is just the kind of vet min player that tends to get signed to bolster a James inspired bench. Can even fill in for him when James needs to take off those 10+ games a season to rest.
Can't wait. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | jankobe wrote: | Knicks are trying to trade KP on draft day to Celtics 1st overall pick & looking to select Lonzo Ball.
It seems NYK really serious on trading KP. Can we trade for him w/o sending Lonzo & Ingram? |
If you believe in Magic |
No chance. #2/Lonzo for KP was possible but outside that, no way. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| jankobe wrote: | Knicks are trying to trade KP on draft day to Celtics 1st overall pick & looking to select Lonzo Ball.
It seems NYK really serious on trading KP. Can we trade for him w/o sending Lonzo & Ingram? |
Your own post said that they want Ball.
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