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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:42 am    Post subject:

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I don't think the Lakers intend to tinker around with a slow rebuild. Ingram/Lonzo will need years to hit pre-prime, let alone prime.


Agree, and that is why the idea of adding two virtual NBA babies to two stars and expecting title contention is fine for fans, but it is doubtful that the oddsmakers would agree.


You act like Klay Thompson and Draymond Green can't be guarded. If they were as good as you claim, they wouldn't have struggled in the playoffs.


I am saying Ingram, George and Lebron would have trouble guarding the Warriors closing team. And those mighty struggles resulted in a 16-1 playoff record.

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Stop being obtuse. You know what I was saying. Why did the Warriors blow a 3-1 lead? Why couldn't Steph Curry shake Delly? Why couldn't the great Klay Thompson score on JR Smith? KD is the alpha on that team, and he is easily their best player, but it's silly to suggest that our guys couldn't guard them.


Me being obtuse? They didn't blow a 3-1 lead, they won the series 4-1. Unless you are trying to say that adding Durant was no big deal for them. Who guards KD? Curry? Thompson? Green? And probably Iggy? PG would be the best choice for two of them, but can only guard one. Lebron showed last Finals that trying to guard KD took everything out of him.


We clearly are talking about two different things. It's you, who made the statement that we couldn't guard the Warriors. I'm asking you who guarded the Warriors when they blew a 3-1 lead in the 2016 finals. I'm asking you, which defensive stoppers did the Cavs have when Steph Curry was 6-19 in Game 7. Which defensive stoppers did the Cavs have when Klay was 6-17 in Game 7. Which defensive stoppers did the Cavs have when Iggy was 2-6?

Again, you have overrated the greatest of the Warriors. They are GREAT TEAM, but they don't have a lot of GREAT ONE ON ONE players.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:00 am    Post subject:

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This dispute over who guards who in the 2019 playoffs is a bit far fetched. When you add two superstar players to an already good team you work those things out. Maybe you have to trade a guy to make it work, who knows. The point is the talent pool on the team is so great that you're able to make adjustments as necessary.

If you can own a Ferrari, you can maintain a Ferrari. You don't sweat the little details.


It's the dead part of the offseason, we need something semi interesting to discuss


Can't wait until Training Camp starts so we can begin discussing player attitudes by their body language in the layup line. Things are getting a bit thin around here.


Especially after that first preseason game
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:36 am    Post subject:

Everyone seems to think that if Wade doesn't go to Cleveland then LeBron is on his way out, which is a good theory cause Wade is one of LeBrons best friends, people should for sure keep a eye on the Wade situation.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:38 pm    Post subject:

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Everyone seems to think that if Wade doesn't go to Cleveland then LeBron is on his way out, which is a good theory cause Wade is one of LeBrons best friends, people should for sure keep a eye on the Wade situation.

I don't see any reason to think that LeBron's future in CLE stands or falls on whether or not Wade comes.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:39 pm    Post subject:

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Everyone seems to think that if Wade doesn't go to Cleveland then LeBron is on his way out, which is a good theory cause Wade is one of LeBrons best friends, people should for sure keep a eye on the Wade situation.

I don't see any reason to think that LeBron's future in CLE stands or falls on whether or not Wade comes.

I think what he's saying is that if Wade doesn't go to CLE then he probably knows lebron isn't staying.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:43 pm    Post subject:

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Everyone seems to think that if Wade doesn't go to Cleveland then LeBron is on his way out, which is a good theory cause Wade is one of LeBrons best friends, people should for sure keep a eye on the Wade situation.

I don't see any reason to think that LeBron's future in CLE stands or falls on whether or not Wade comes.

I think what he's saying is that if Wade doesn't go to CLE then he probably knows lebron isn't staying.

Ah, okay. That makes a lot more sense

My bad for misunderstanding you, 2.0!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:06 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
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Judah wrote:
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Everyone seems to think that if Wade doesn't go to Cleveland then LeBron is on his way out, which is a good theory cause Wade is one of LeBrons best friends, people should for sure keep a eye on the Wade situation.

I don't see any reason to think that LeBron's future in CLE stands or falls on whether or not Wade comes.

I think what he's saying is that if Wade doesn't go to CLE then he probably knows lebron isn't staying.

Ah, okay. That makes a lot more sense

My bad for misunderstanding you, 2.0!


Well, I hope Wade does go to Cleveland if bought out and not go to OKC... next thing you know they make it to WCF and nobody leaving
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:18 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Judah wrote:
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Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Everyone seems to think that if Wade doesn't go to Cleveland then LeBron is on his way out, which is a good theory cause Wade is one of LeBrons best friends, people should for sure keep a eye on the Wade situation.

I don't see any reason to think that LeBron's future in CLE stands or falls on whether or not Wade comes.

I think what he's saying is that if Wade doesn't go to CLE then he probably knows lebron isn't staying.

Ah, okay. That makes a lot more sense

My bad for misunderstanding you, 2.0!


Well, I hope Wade does go to Cleveland if bought out and not go to OKC... next thing you know they make it to WCF and nobody leaving



That may happen anyway, depending on how the Rockets gel and if the Spurs age catches up to them. It's essentially Kawhi carrying a lineup that all the vets who are the 2nd 3rd and 4th best players on their team are all way past their prime.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:28 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Judah wrote:
trablos wrote:
Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Everyone seems to think that if Wade doesn't go to Cleveland then LeBron is on his way out, which is a good theory cause Wade is one of LeBrons best friends, people should for sure keep a eye on the Wade situation.

I don't see any reason to think that LeBron's future in CLE stands or falls on whether or not Wade comes.

I think what he's saying is that if Wade doesn't go to CLE then he probably knows lebron isn't staying.

Ah, okay. That makes a lot more sense

My bad for misunderstanding you, 2.0!


Well, I hope Wade does go to Cleveland if bought out and not go to OKC... next thing you know they make it to WCF and nobody leaving


Wade won't help them get to WCF

Let's just hope they don't get someone before the trade deadline who can help them get there!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:30 am    Post subject:

Lebron works out with DWade

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LeBron James and Dwyane Wade appear to believe that working out is a bit more enjoyable when you're with a friend.

With a little over a month until the NBA season begins, the former Miami Heat teammates linked up in Los Angeles to put in some work.

James posted a video of him and Wade running through drills on his Instagram page.


Probably nothing but....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:49 am    Post subject:

Am I the only one that doesn't want Lebron on this team?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:25 am    Post subject:

For those who don't want LBJ but WB (and PG13 is the constant in both equations), that still likely means Ingram has to come off the bench. You'd have:

WB
Lonzo
PG13
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[C]

Only iteration (in a 2 max scenario) is signing Boogie, but I'm not sure he's a fit culture-wise given Magic's big push on that end.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:29 am    Post subject:

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Am I the only one that doesn't want Lebron on this team?


If my calculations are correct there's about 35% of you out there.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:42 am    Post subject:

Westbrook signing the Jordan deal could mean he could come here next year, think about does Jordan brand want the face of its product playing on OKC or LA
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:44 am    Post subject:

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Westbrook signing the Jordan deal could mean he could come here next year, think about does Jordan brand want the face of its product playing on OKC or LA


I think the 2nd likeliest iteration of the 2 max plan involves WB.

1. LBJ/PG13
2. LBJ/WB
3. WB/PG13

I would say are the 3 top configurations that the Lakers might be looking at.
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-JC out for $0/Deng stretched = 57.6m in 2018 cap space
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2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:45 am    Post subject:

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Westbrook signing the Jordan deal could mean he could come here next year, think about does Jordan brand want the face of its product playing on OKC or LA


I'm gonna guess... LA lol. If I were MJ, not only I want WB in Lakers, I'll try to get Lonzo too
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:48 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
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Westbrook signing the Jordan deal could mean he could come here next year, think about does Jordan brand want the face of its product playing on OKC or LA


I'm gonna guess... LA lol. If I were MJ, not only I want WB in Lakers, I'll try to get Lonzo too

Although the story of 3 LA kids bringing the Lakers back in WB/PG13/Lonzo would be quite awesome. Bring in Brook (born in LA) and we have an all LA revival.
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2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:56 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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Westbrook signing the Jordan deal could mean he could come here next year, think about does Jordan brand want the face of its product playing on OKC or LA


I think the 2nd likeliest iteration of the 2 max plan involves WB.

1. LBJ/PG13
2. LBJ/WB
3. WB/PG13

I would say are the 3 top configurations that the Lakers might be looking at.


LBJ/WB I think is most likely
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:58 am    Post subject:

chino hills isn't LA fyi.
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chino hills isn't LA fyi.


I know...but the broad diaspora known as "LA."

Palmdale isn't either.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:00 am    Post subject:

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chino hills isn't LA fyi.


neither is Palmdale, Westbrook and Lopez the only 2 real LA kids, Hawthorne and N Hollywood
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chino hills isn't LA fyi.


neither is Palmdale, Westbrook and Lopez the only 2 real LA kids, Hawthorne and N Hollywood


And didn't Lopez grow up in Fresno though?
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2 of 4 of these players will be Lakers in 2018 (LBJ/PG13/WB/Boogie)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:02 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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chino hills isn't LA fyi.


neither is Palmdale, Westbrook and Lopez the only 2 real LA kids, Hawthorne and N Hollywood


And didn't Lopez grow up in Fresno though?


you are right only in N Hollywood till 2nd grade
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:03 am    Post subject:

palmdale's LA county. (none of this matters, i'm being annoying.)
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