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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Bard207 wrote: | epak wrote: | Bard207 wrote: | epak wrote: | Good thing both teams can afford all three. |
There are no teams that can afford all three next summer getting paid their
respective Max contracts. |
Yep.
That's why I won't be saying "max" money.
I'm just saying we can afford all three. |
You are optimistic that all three will sign for an average starting salary of $20.5 million or whatever the spreadsheet shows they need to sign for to make everything fit. |
I wouldnt be surprised if it happened. And I wouldnt be surprised if it didnt.
It's one year away. The players themselves probably don't know what they'll do next year. So I dont mind being optimistic when there's a possibility. |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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yinoma2001 wrote: | WB signs his 10 year extension with Jordan brand.
OKC's supermax extension sits there collecting dust.
Hmm.
Could WB and/or PG13/LBJ be angling for LA next? |
Jordan and Magic made far more money post playing career than during their playing days. It stands to reason that building your brand by letting the league market you has as much if not more lifetime value than "modest" differences in playing salary for the top five or so guys. These days that happens by being on super teams, even more so if you're in the right market.
If WB wants to launch a fashion brand that goes differently if he's on a super team in LA than if he's a lone wolf in OKC (superteam being more important than market). _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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LB2 Starting Rotation
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The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:59 am Post subject: |
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LB2 wrote: | The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
Not really. We don't have Bird rights on them so we would need cold hard cap space to re-sign them in 2019. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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levon Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:03 am Post subject: |
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If all 3 end up in LA, do we have a shot at beating GS? |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:08 am Post subject: |
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levon wrote: | If all 3 end up in LA, do we have a shot at beating GS? |
To many "what if's" there...doubt we have to cross that bridge. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:31 am Post subject: |
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levon wrote: | If all 3 end up in LA, do we have a shot at beating GS? |
If two first round picks are used to carve out as much cap space as possible, the pressure to win will be huge.
Not being good enough to beat the Warriors and having a debt of two first round picks might annoy some on LG. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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OKC is 1 team who might explore trading WB if they know he's gonna test FA next summer |
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pmacla Star Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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I read that someone projected that only 5 teams will have cap space next summer, the dream of trading Deng is dead if that is the case he will have to be stretched |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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LB2 wrote: | The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
Is $15 mil much to give up? That would be an easy decision for you? I doubt they are as free with their money as you are. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Question for LG:
If LeBron decides to join the Lakers do you think he's gonna announce it on the Player Tribute or a media reporter will announce it? |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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pmacla wrote: | I read that someone projected that only 5 teams will have cap space next summer, the dream of trading Deng is dead if that is the case he will have to be stretched |
If meaningful cap space is considered to be $16 million and up, then 5 to maybe 10 teams will be in that category next summer and that is counting the Lakers as part of that group.
To move Deng with $0 salary coming back, it will probably require two first round picks (if it can be done at all).
I have posted this link before.
Next summer could be the wrong time to be an NBA free agent |
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pio2u Retired Number
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FYI:
Quote: | Bleacher Report NBAVerified account @BR_NBA 17m17 minutes ago
Zach Randolph's marijuana charge dismissed, will serve 150 hours of community service as part of plea deal, per @TMZ http://ble.ac/2xzxoqz |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Question for LG:
If LeBron decides to join the Lakers do you think he's gonna announce it on the Player Tribute or a media reporter will announce it? |
dont care _________________ Now Playing: The Zo Show @Staples |
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LB2 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | LB2 wrote: | The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
Is $15 mil much to give up? That would be an easy decision for you? I doubt they are as free with their money as you are. |
Well my point is they would likely get more and higher paying endorsements that might offset some of it. That combined with joining a team that would contend and being in the city you love might just be enough. |
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tnell Star Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Question for LG:
If LeBron decides to join the Lakers do you think he's gonna announce it on the Player Tribute or a media reporter will announce it? |
Lol that's a random question my man |
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ToastedMuffins Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | LB2 wrote: | The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
Not really. We don't have Bird rights on them so we would need cold hard cap space to re-sign them in 2019. |
I could be wrong, but I understand that's actually correct. If say, WestBrook, George, and Cousins for instance all decide to take 1+1 contracts and split our cap space evenly among them then they could opt out the following season. In this scenario, the Lakers would own each players' "Non-Bird Rights" (Don't let the name confuse you, they are essentially the same as bird rights) which would allow the Lakers to exceed the salary cap by re-signing all 3 players to contracts up to 120% of their previous salary. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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ToastedMuffins wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LB2 wrote: | The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
Not really. We don't have Bird rights on them so we would need cold hard cap space to re-sign them in 2019. |
I could be wrong, but I understand that's actually correct. If say, WestBrook, George, and Cousins for instance all decide to take 1+1 contracts and split our cap space evenly among them then they could opt out the following season. In this scenario, the Lakers would own each players' "Non-Bird Rights" (Don't let the name confuse you, they are essentially the same as bird rights) which would allow the Lakers to exceed the salary cap by re-signing all 3 players to contracts up to 120% of their previous salary. |
Hmmm. You might be right. Same with KCP IIRC. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | ToastedMuffins wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LB2 wrote: | The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
Not really. We don't have Bird rights on them so we would need cold hard cap space to re-sign them in 2019. |
I could be wrong, but I understand that's actually correct. If say, WestBrook, George, and Cousins for instance all decide to take 1+1 contracts and split our cap space evenly among them then they could opt out the following season. In this scenario, the Lakers would own each players' "Non-Bird Rights" (Don't let the name confuse you, they are essentially the same as bird rights) which would allow the Lakers to exceed the salary cap by re-signing all 3 players to contracts up to 120% of their previous salary. |
Hmmm. You might be right. Same with KCP IIRC. |
Alright. So we can afford all three
I wonder how LeBron will handle coming off the bench |
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epak Retired Number
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Quote: | LA!!!! I am signing copies of my book #StyleDrivers tomorrow at the Barnes & Noble at The Grove from 7pm-9pm #whynot Pull up!!!! |
Time to ask him if he's gonna extend that contract. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:25 am Post subject: |
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ToastedMuffins wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LB2 wrote: | The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
Not really. We don't have Bird rights on them so we would need cold hard cap space to re-sign them in 2019. |
I could be wrong, but I understand that's actually correct. If say, WestBrook, George, and Cousins for instance all decide to take 1+1 contracts and split our cap space evenly among them then they could opt out the following season. In this scenario, the Lakers would own each players' "Non-Bird Rights" (Don't let the name confuse you, they are essentially the same as bird rights) which would allow the Lakers to exceed the salary cap by re-signing all 3 players to contracts up to 120% of their previous salary. |
So they give up money for at least 2 years? Would you do the same, donate 30% of your salary to LG for 2 years? _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | ToastedMuffins wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LB2 wrote: | The way I understand it, these guys could all take less for one year, then get paid 2019? I mean if you think about it all of them are getting big bucks from Nike and they will likely receive more endorsements being part of a resurgence of relevance in LA. Barring a major injury next season, would they really be giving up much if any money? Plus they'd be where they really want to be... just seems like an easy decision if im them. |
Not really. We don't have Bird rights on them so we would need cold hard cap space to re-sign them in 2019. |
I could be wrong, but I understand that's actually correct. If say, WestBrook, George, and Cousins for instance all decide to take 1+1 contracts and split our cap space evenly among them then they could opt out the following season. In this scenario, the Lakers would own each players' "Non-Bird Rights" (Don't let the name confuse you, they are essentially the same as bird rights) which would allow the Lakers to exceed the salary cap by re-signing all 3 players to contracts up to 120% of their previous salary. |
So they give up money for at least 2 years? Would you do the same, donate 30% of your salary to LG for 2 years? |
Players have done exactly that (took less $) for a chance to contend for the championship |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:33 am Post subject: |
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None have done so to join a 30 win team. If we were the Warriors maybe, but we are far from t Warriors. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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JeezyXVII Star Player
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | OKC is 1 team who might explore trading WB if they know he's gonna test FA next summer |
eyspecially if he still hasn't re-signed by the AS break. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:19 am Post subject: |
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JeezyXVII wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | OKC is 1 team who might explore trading WB if they know he's gonna test FA next summer |
eyspecially if he still hasn't re-signed by the AS break. |
Westbrook has little incentive to re-sign before next offseason. He is seeking a shorter deal and might want to monitor what OKC does with its roster before committing. There are few teams that can afford to give him $35 mil and we have little to deal unless we are dealing our rookies. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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