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Huey Lewis & The News
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| This is more than I ever wanted to know about palm trees 😂 |
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ChickenBeckerman
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| they never belonged out here in the first place. good riddance. |
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| Ben Vereen wrote: | | they never belonged out here in the first place. good riddance. |
why do you hate plants |
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| sickside323 wrote: | | Ben Vereen wrote: | | they never belonged out here in the first place. good riddance. |
why do you hate plants |
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time to plant ganja instead.
I think the ganja plant is the official tree of los angeles, not the palm tree. |
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ExPatLkrFan
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| Most of them are full of fruit rats. I used to watch them walk from the palm trees by the phone and electrical lines to my neighbors roof when I lived in San Gabriel. |
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ChickenBeckerman
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| sickside323 wrote: | | Ben Vereen wrote: | | they never belonged out here in the first place. good riddance. |
why do you hate plants |
I love plants.
They all have their place where they need to be.
Palm trees need to be as far from LA as possible. |
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| Ben Vereen wrote: | | sickside323 wrote: | | Ben Vereen wrote: | | they never belonged out here in the first place. good riddance. |
why do you hate plants |
I love plants.
They all have their place where they need to be.
Palm trees need to be as far from LA as possible. |
You know what trees I hate? Cyprus trees. They should be in bleepin Cyprus. Also detest eucalyptus trees. They should be in mother bleepin Australia. I will help you burn some palm trees down if you reciprocate the gesture. Let's do this thing. The people above us, they'll never understand.
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ChickenBeckerman
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| non-player zealot wrote: | | Ben Vereen wrote: | | sickside323 wrote: | | Ben Vereen wrote: | | they never belonged out here in the first place. good riddance. |
why do you hate plants |
I love plants.
They all have their place where they need to be.
Palm trees need to be as far from LA as possible. |
You know what trees I hate? Cyprus trees. They should be in bleepin Cyprus. Also detest eucalyptus trees. They should be in mother bleepin Australia. I will help you burn some palm trees down if you reciprocate the gesture. Let's do this thing. The people above us, they'll never understand. |
There are over 10,000 miles of damaged/destroyed sidewalks and streets throughout LA because of these tree's that should have never been planted here in the first place. Costs millions to constantly fix and repair the damage each year and the city is decades behind on it.
Chopping down all those nuisance tree's would be a blessing but the people have grown far too attached to them. |
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| Ben Vereen wrote: |
There are over 10,000 miles of damaged/destroyed sidewalks and streets throughout LA because of these tree's that should have never been planted here in the first place. Costs millions to constantly fix and repair the damage each year and the city is decades behind on it.
Chopping down all those nuisance tree's would be a blessing but the people have grown far too attached to them. |
To be fair, the sidewalk problem has nothing to do with non-native trees. There are plenty of trees that are native to the area that cause the same problem.
The problem was the idea of planting trees on the small parkway between the sidewalk and the street in the first place. ANY medium to large size tree is going to uproot the sidewalk when it meets maturity and beyond.
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ChickenBeckerman
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Yes, definitely some native ones too. Chop em all down and replant with trees that won't cost us millions every year for decades.
Although, I do admit they made great BMX speed ramps on the sidewalks and asphalt back in the 80's.
Still, just a horrible lack of foresite by our previous city planners. |
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| Ben Vereen wrote: | | they never belonged out here in the first place. good riddance. |
Agreed. We should get rid of all the things that didn't used tto belong in LA. Let's start with other people's water. Should take care of both issues... 
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I like the trees as a part of California ambiance. However, in certain sections of the city they do create a problem.
In less affluent areas the palms dry and fall onto autos on the street. I lived on a street that had that problem. I called the city to have a crew come and trim the trees. That was over 2 years ago. I've called on numerous occasions only to have someone tell me the crews are overwhelmed. Yeah, they spend their time sitting in parks and drinking beer.
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| Palm Trees are part of the In and Out logo. They also have their signature X palm trees outside every In and Out. I don't see Palm Trees being gone from California although I do forsee a huge reduction in them due to the die off. |
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Dr. Funkbot
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They just need some damn water every now and then and they will be fine. My neighbor has two dead canary palms, along with most of the other plants in his yard- never waters ever. You can water trees even with the drought restrictions, it is just lawns that you can't water.
Trees help cool the landscape and help with water retention, even palm trees.
California Fan Palms actually make quite a bit of shade, especially when grouped together, and they are perfectly adapted to our environment. Not sure why we need to plant all of the other varieties that are not adapted to our climate.
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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: | They just need some damn water every now and then and they will be fine. My neighbor has two dead canary palms, along with most of the other plants in his yard- never waters ever. You can water trees even with the drought restrictions, it is just lawns that you can't water.
Trees help cool the landscape and help with water retention, even palm trees.
California Fan Palms actually make quite a bit of shade, especially when grouped together, and they are perfectly adapted to our environment. Not sure why we need to plant all of the other varieties that are not adapted to our climate. |
the problem is in the water. they have a bacteria in the water that causes fungus that's killing our palm trees. |
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| can the one in my backyard die also? |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Ben Vereen wrote: | | they never belonged out here in the first place. good riddance. |
Agreed. We should get rid of all the things that didn't used tto belong in LA. Let's start with other people's water. Should take care of both issues... |
Water isn't a nuisance that provides NEGATIVE environmental benefits. Palm trees have an abysmal environmental impact in the negative, dreadfully less canopy coverage compared to nearly any other tree for the amount of resource it consumes and dumps out.
Spreads disease to other plant life, causes damage to property at a much higher frequency and fosters parasitic insects & rat infestations and yeah, again, sucks up our precious water resources at outrageous levels.
Additonally they are CAM photosynthesis so they hardly even produce oxygen, pathetic and useless!
Severaly negative enviromental and biological impacts vs 'oh they look nice in pictures.' |
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Lots of trees are dying in California, that is part of the reason forest fires are becoming more dangerous. There are beetles killing them from the inside and and they offer little resistance to the fires.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Lots of trees are dying in California, that is part of the reason forest fires are becoming more dangerous. There are beetles killing them from the inside and and they offer little resistance to the fires. |
It is true, but the beetles usually can only kill tress that are under distress from lack of watering. If the tree is healthy and properly watered, its sap kills the beetles. If the tree did not get any supplemental watering during the drought, they can't make enough sap and they get overwhelmed by the beetles.
I have lost no trees during the drought. I let me lawn die, but I continued to prune and water my trees. They are all healthy and happy. I have all native trees: sycamores, palo verdes, engleman and live oaks. Native trees are great, they just grow and grow and need just a little extra water and pruning.
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Add the trees to a dying planet.
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