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The Logo Star Player
Joined: 25 Jul 2013 Posts: 9577 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Eindhoven wrote: | al242 wrote: | This whole Luol Deng experience makes me regret making fun of Knicks fans when they were left with the corpse of Amare Stoudemire on year 2 of his 5 year contract |
Knicks are not much better today with Noah over there. Actually we can find a dozen of these bad contracts in their recent history. |
We can laugh at NY and the Stat contact all we want.
Because Loul is far from a max contract. He's barely taking 17% of the cap.
Stat took 28% of the cap. |
Eh even when STAT wasn't playing like he used to, at least he was still a decent player massively overpaid lol. |
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LakerDYnasty72 Star Player
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 4562
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | We had the opportunity to get a legit two way star in PG and passed. Now that he is in a better place, that whole opportunity has potentially passed. Ingram might be PG in 4 years or so, or he might not be. All that says is that we are not interested in winning now. |
That statement is wholly untrue. Magic & Rob came on board now, but would not be interested in winning now if they could balance the win now, but setup for what's coming in 2018 as well?
Perhaps it says that we weren't willing to pay that particular price to win now because it wouldn't have guaranteed we'd win now. It would have guaranteed, however, that we would given up two of the three No.2 picks we've had recently.
I'd (probably Rob & Magic as well) like to see what this one can do now, and in the future. It's a balance, and it ain't easy to thread. |
We see star FAs choosing to team with other stars. We could have had a star to attract others in PG. instead we have no one. If the idea is to grow organically then I have no problem with that. But that can’t be construed as trying to win now. |
The key word for me is balance. The retaining of an intriguing talent (BI) while combining him with a great point guard in Ball, while obtaining a nice ending contract talent in Lopez, and the expected maturation of Randle, Nance and a few others, and a little luck with the acquisition of KCP.
All of this while being nimble for 2018 makes me take a patient approach. PG would have been nice no doubt. I won't discount that fact. |
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governator Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 24996
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Mike Trudell: Luol Deng will not play tonight due to right hip flexor tightness. – via Twitter LakersReporter |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144432 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:19 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Mike Trudell: Luol Deng will not play tonight due to right hip flexor tightness. – via Twitter LakersReporter |
I thought we played tomorrow? _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:25 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | governator wrote: | Mike Trudell: Luol Deng will not play tonight due to right hip flexor tightness. – via Twitter LakersReporter |
I thought we played tomorrow? |
I think that might have been for last night's game
I post it too late, my bad |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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No problem, I thought I might have misread the schedule _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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lakersboy Star Player
Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 8518 Location: Left coast
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Start him. |
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BigBallerBrand Star Player
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 5785 Location: LA
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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chicago luol deng is back! _________________ Billions Billions Billions |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hopefully. He plays within the offense unlike some of the younger players who like to ISO. |
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The Logo Star Player
Joined: 25 Jul 2013 Posts: 9577 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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One of the few positives tonight. Hopefully he plays like this all year to provide us with shooting (I much rather see tonight's Deng than Brewer) |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Finally at the PF spot... if u consider kuz the SF when they were in together |
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J.C. Smith Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Deng looked good tonight. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Finally at the PF spot... if u consider kuz the SF when they were in together |
Those two are a pretty good pair to work in around Lonzo. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Eindhoven Star Player
Joined: 14 Jul 2015 Posts: 1930 Location: Zürich
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Very happy for his game, despite limited minutes. Agree with Omar, Deng and Kuzma can be a great F duo. _________________ .... |
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KBH Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Glad I'm not the only one who noticed and appreciated Deng looking like the player we thought we'd have last year. I'm not sure we'll have minutes for him all the forwards we have on the team, though. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:45 am Post subject: |
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HE LIVES!!! _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:46 am Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | Deng looked good tonight. |
No doubt, better than anything we saw last season. That was closer to vintage Luol than the guy from last season. |
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King Randle Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:51 am Post subject: |
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If he keeps this up maybe he'll gather interest from other teams. I doubt it though. That contract is ridiculous. |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
Joined: 24 Sep 2001 Posts: 8188 Location: Eagle Rock
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:50 am Post subject: |
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King Randle wrote: | If he keeps this up maybe he'll gather interest from other teams. I doubt it though. That contract is ridiculous. |
It is, but he did look like Deng tonight at least. I mean we are paying the money, why not enjoy the goods for now.
He said he worked on his shooting stroke in the offeason and I was glad to see him hit those 3s! _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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RJ_LA Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Dr. Funkbot wrote: | King Randle wrote: | If he keeps this up maybe he'll gather interest from other teams. I doubt it though. That contract is ridiculous. |
It is, but he did look like Deng tonight at least. I mean we are paying the money, why not enjoy the goods for now.
He said he worked on his shooting stroke in the offeason and I was glad to see him hit those 3s! |
I feel a of a lot more comfortable with Deng shooting 3s than BI, Randle or Nance. |
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lakez34 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Glad to see him hit the 3s, there were a few I think he passed up that he should have taken. Instead, ball got stuck with him deciding whether to drive or pass. Hoping the made 3s builds up his confidence to shoot more of them, assuming they're good looks. |
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cmonkee Star Player
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 5301 Location: Redondo Beach
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Deng officially out of the rotation:
http://www.ocregister.com/2017/10/22/kentavious-caldwell-pope-makes-impact-in-lakers-debut/
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The 13 minutes Deng played as a substitute starter on opening night may have been the last Lakers fans will see of the veteran forward. Deng was back on the inactive list Sunday for the second straight game, and Walton indicated that will be the norm.
“As of now he’s not in the rotation as far as consistently penciled in without something happening,” Walton said.
On Thursday against the Clippers, the “something happening” was the suspension of Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. Walton started Deng at small forward to keep his second unit intact, but by the next night had replaced him with Brewer.
It’s not much of a surprise that Deng will have a limited role. The Lakers have gotten younger and playing Deng would require taking minutes from Brandon Ingram, Larry Nance Jr., Julius Randle and Kyle Kuzma. However, Deng is just a year removed from signing a $72 million contract that will keep him with the Lakers through 2020, making his situation all the more awkward.
“We’ve talked,” Walton said. “It’s 82 games. There’s a lot that’s going to change, but for right now we’ve asked him to stay sharp, to keep working to stay ready for when he gets called on and continue mentoring our young players.” |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:31 am Post subject: |
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We’are tanking again! _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:32 am Post subject: |
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72 million
my dream job
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:34 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | We’are tanking again! |
Is he still better than Kuzma? |
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