Obviously too early to call, but definitely something to watch for in the future. He got hurt at UCLA, hurt in summer league, and hurt in preseason. Definitely not encouraging that a "mild sprain" keeps him from even practicing for a week and a half. He might want to Steph and see what he started doing to stop the ankle problems if this continues to be an issue. But hopefully it's just the team being ultra conservative and he's fine, which is less likely since he's not even on the practice floor when we need to be building chemistry.
He had a couple minor dings at UCLA, but he played in every game and was an iron man for that team. This narrative is overblown.
Might be injury prone or it might be a lack of some toughness when dinged up. We really got spoiled having two decades with one of the toughest and most talented dudes in NBA history leading the way for us.
You think theyd let kobe play on a sprained ankle in preseason? Kobe was injury prone early in his career. So was shaq they were both out for long stretches at a time. Missing half seasons sometimes.
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
You make it sound like he’s refusing to practice
Obviously he's not and wouldn't be. He can't practice or play, Which is why I'm a little concerned. If it was a mild sprain, with his age and the training staff he has access to, he should be fine. A week after his sprain happened, reporters said he was still limping. Spectrum staff are saying they still (as in as of today) see him with his leg propped up onto a chair, hooked up to an electronic stimulation machine every practice and that he can't participate. The injury was clearly more serious than they described and/or he's a slow healer. That's something to watch, especially given his play style.
The sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions, but it is discouraging. As yinoma has said, this is important time for the team as they're implementing their offensive and defensive schemes and learning to play together, especially since training camp was shortened starting this year. If he can't even practice with the team, it's probably not them holding him out of games just to be cautious and more he actually can't play.
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
You make it sound like he’s refusing to practice
Obviously he's not and wouldn't be. He can't practice or play, Which is why I'm a little concerned. If it was a mild sprain, with his age and the training staff he has access to, he should be fine. A week after his sprain happened, reporters said he was still limping. Spectrum staff are saying they still (as in as of today) see him with his leg propped up onto a chair, hooked up to an electronic stiulation machine every practice and that he can't participate. The injury was clearly more serious than they described and/or he's a slow healer. That's something to watch, especially given his play style.
The sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions, but it is discouraging. As yinoma has said, this is important time for the team as they're implementing their offensive and defensive schemes and learning to play together, especially since training camp was shortened starting this year. If he can't even practice with the team, it's probably not them holding him out of games just to be cautious and more he actually can't play.
When it happened it looked bad to me. He was landing from a maximum effort jump. No surprise to me he is still out.
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.
Vet teams who know how to play together don't need to care about preseason. We don't have that luxury. Iirc, Luke himself said that he wanted Lonzo to be playing in preseason and an injury would be a setback for the team because so much was predicated on Lonzo's ability to push and pass the ball. The first couple of games showed why Lonzo needed the reps, because he needs to learn to play against actual NBA talent, not Summer League hopefuls, and actual NBA defenses which actually adjust. Losing Lonzo for nearly the entire preseason due to the ankle was clearly disappointing and surprising from Luke's comments today.
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:45 pm Post subject:
mhan00 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
BynumForThree wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Injury prone?
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.
Vet teams who know how to play together don't need to care about preseason. We don't have that luxury. Iirc, Luke himself said that he wanted Lonzo to be playing in preseason and an injury would be a setback for the team because so much was predicated on Lonzo's ability to push and pass the ball. The first couple of games showed why Lonzo needed the reps, because he needs to learn to play against actual NBA talent, not Summer League hopefuls, and actual NBA defenses which actually adjust. Losing Lonzo for nearly the entire preseason due to the ankle was clearly disappointing and surprising from Luke's comments today.
For some guys the regular season is the pre-season. Shaq comes to mind.
Lonzo hasn't played a few meaningless games? What's the stress? He'll get a lot of minutes all season long. It's not like he's getting cut next monday. _________________ -----------------------------------------------------
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Widespread Lonzo fever making Lakers a tough ticket already
Quote:
The latest Lonzo Ball-related news happened quietly. That might be news in itself for a guy whose mere choice in footwear generates headlines. The Los Angeles Lakers sold out the remaining 5 percent of their season-ticket inventory this week. All gone. The Lakers had 95 percent renewal from their season-ticket holders before the draft, but now that Lonzo Ball is a Laker — and fresh off his tantalizing summer league run — they hit capacity. After a seat-viewing open house at Staples Center, fans bought up the 600 available seats. (Last year’s event yielded about 175 ticket sales). 22 hours ago – via ESPN
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.
Vet teams who know how to play together don't need to care about preseason. We don't have that luxury. Iirc, Luke himself said that he wanted Lonzo to be playing in preseason and an injury would be a setback for the team because so much was predicated on Lonzo's ability to push and pass the ball. The first couple of games showed why Lonzo needed the reps, because he needs to learn to play against actual NBA talent, not Summer League hopefuls, and actual NBA defenses which actually adjust. Losing Lonzo for nearly the entire preseason due to the ankle was clearly disappointing and surprising from Luke's comments today.
For some guys the regular season is the pre-season. Shaq comes to mind.
Lonzo hasn't played a few meaningless games? What's the stress? He'll get a lot of minutes all season long. It's not like he's getting cut next monday.
I'm going to ignore the Shaq point since that isn't even close to being analogous. Champion Shaq playing his way into shape after winning a ring after eight years in the league is different than a rookie who hasn't played a minute of actual NBA basketball.
And the preseason isn't meaningless for us. Lonzo hasn't played with Lopez, a guy who figures to be fairly prominent in our offense. Luke hasn't been able to experiment with different lineups with Lonzo to see who fits with him. And the stress is the thought that maybe he won't be able to play a lot of minutes all season long. As was stated many times, it's too early to really worry about it, it's just something to think about since the ankle injury has lingered as long as it has. No one is panicking yet (or at least I'm not) but it's just something to keep an eye on going forward.
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:00 am Post subject:
Have none of you rolled an ankle before? It's not something you just bounce right back from. It lingers for a while. Fultz was lucky when he rolled his in early July because he had over a month until training camp started to get back to 100%.
Ball just landed on someone's foot and rolled his ankle. It's a freak thing that could happen to ANYONE. The comparisons to Curry's ankle problems and stuff like that are pure hysteria.
No it’s the preseason, it would be dumb to play him in a stupid pick up game.
Yet every other team is doing it?
A lot of star players aren’t playing or are playing less minutes, If the Lakers played Ball right now and he aggravated the injury again and misses 1 month, then the Lakers will be under fire and fans everywhere will be raged. I’m more interested in watching Kuzma then Ball right now anyway.
You mean star players that have already proven themselves and have played through numerous NBA seasons? Lonzo is a rookie who needs all the practice he can get, he's not a star.
Lol, my point was clear, he doesn't need to play right now at all, it doesn't matter if he's a star or not, there is no point giving effort in preseason a lot of players obviously don't when it comes to pre season and Lonzo is good enough to come in right away and have his presence felt, he's been playing basketball for years and the NBA regular season is were he's gonna make his mark.
Vet teams who know how to play together don't need to care about preseason. We don't have that luxury. Iirc, Luke himself said that he wanted Lonzo to be playing in preseason and an injury would be a setback for the team because so much was predicated on Lonzo's ability to push and pass the ball. The first couple of games showed why Lonzo needed the reps, because he needs to learn to play against actual NBA talent, not Summer League hopefuls, and actual NBA defenses which actually adjust. Losing Lonzo for nearly the entire preseason due to the ankle was clearly disappointing and surprising from Luke's comments today.
For some guys the regular season is the pre-season. Shaq comes to mind.
Lonzo hasn't played a few meaningless games? What's the stress? He'll get a lot of minutes all season long. It's not like he's getting cut next monday.
I guess you're right what the heck they're going to lose most games with him anyways. This just delays the negative posts for awhile.
Widespread Lonzo fever making Lakers a tough ticket already
Quote:
The latest Lonzo Ball-related news happened quietly. That might be news in itself for a guy whose mere choice in footwear generates headlines. The Los Angeles Lakers sold out the remaining 5 percent of their season-ticket inventory this week. All gone. The Lakers had 95 percent renewal from their season-ticket holders before the draft, but now that Lonzo Ball is a Laker — and fresh off his tantalizing summer league run — they hit capacity. After a seat-viewing open house at Staples Center, fans bought up the 600 available seats. (Last year’s event yielded about 175 ticket sales). 22 hours ago – via ESPN
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:32 pm Post subject:
socalsp3 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
epak wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Ducking Pat Beverly
Ducking the entire Clippers
He just didn't want to be upstaged by the best PG in LA, Teodosic.
That might actually be true this season
Not impressed with Teodosic's game so far.
listening to someone discussing Teodosic this week....."It's not that he is bad at defense or is unable to play defense....it is more like simply chooses to not play defense....like ever"
No doubt that there holding him out because of it being preseason, Lakers probably think he's good enough and has the intelligence to come in from a long lay off and make a Impact, that's what generational talents do.
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