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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:41 am    Post subject:

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I am really impressed with Kuzma's footwork, more than anything. Imagine if he worked with Kobe.. the possibilities!


The footwork complements his shot-making ability as well. We've seen running hooks using both hands, floaters, tough shots off the glass, etc. The only thing I haven't seen yet is turn-around/fadeaway jumpshot.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:42 am    Post subject:

If he does that.... we would all go crazy LMAO
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I am really impressed with Kuzma's footwork, more than anything. Imagine if he worked with Kobe.. the possibilities!


The footwork complements his shot-making ability as well. We've seen running hooks using both hands, floaters, tough shots off the glass, etc. The only thing I haven't seen yet is turn-around/fadeaway jumpshot.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:48 am    Post subject:

bkim10 wrote:
If he does that.... we would all go crazy LMAO
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I am really impressed with Kuzma's footwork, more than anything. Imagine if he worked with Kobe.. the possibilities!


The footwork complements his shot-making ability as well. We've seen running hooks using both hands, floaters, tough shots off the glass, etc. The only thing I haven't seen yet is turn-around/fadeaway jumpshot.


I doubt we'll see it from him especially since he likes to use his spin moves to get closer to the basket. I'm fine with that since he has the ability to hit hooks with either hand and isn't trying to force lay-ups like BI.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject:

I am completely baffled by how good Kuz is. His footwork is amazing, especially on offense. His stroke is sweet. I don't know how so many teams passed up on him. I'm also glad the Spurs didn't get a hold of him. They would look like geniuses once again. Jesse and Ryan are amazing. This organization is in great hands for years to come, even when Magic and Pelinka move on. I'm not sure if the Lakers knew how good Kuzma was, but there has been some hints looking back. The Magic/Kuz bromance that started at the combine and continue to his Lakers workout, to the day they introduced Kuz officially and he was sitting there next to Magic. At first we thought it was a Flint thing, but now there seems to be more. The fact that Kuz didn't participate in day two of the combine and the Internet trashing him, but he might of gotten some sort of nod from teams, especially the Lakers. And the Lakers predraft workout video, you see Kuz with Thomas Bryant and the guys, but he's the only one they didn't show doing the full court shooting drills. That couldn't be coincidence could it?

And lastly, Kuz said that if he was still there later in the draft, the Lakers promised they'll take him. He also stated that he wanted to be a Laker. When the Lakers were shopping DLO for another lottery pick, we thought it was for Luke Kennard, Monk, or something like that. Is it possible we were trying to take Kuz as high as 10? After seeing him play, it's not completely out of the question.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject:

If the Lakers got the 10th pick to draft Kyle Kuzma, at the time of the trade, the Internet would have absolutely blown up and I'm kind of bummed it didn't happen now
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
If the Lakers got the 10th pick to draft Kyle Kuzma, at the time of the trade, the Internet would have absolutely blown up and I'm kind of bummed it didn't happen now

I would've been flipping out about them passing on Monk.
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justsomelakerfan wrote:
If the Lakers got the 10th pick to draft Kyle Kuzma, at the time of the trade, the Internet would have absolutely blown up and I'm kind of bummed it didn't happen now

I would've been flipping out about them passing on Monk.


I would have too considering you had potential lights out shooters in Kennard, TJ Leaf, etc. They already know this roster is full of suspect shooters sans DLO/Lopez at the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:20 pm    Post subject:

Per NBA.com:

Kyle Kuzma is currently the 7th leading scorer in the NBA (19.2 ppg, 56% FG).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject:

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Per NBA.com:

Kyle Kuzma is currently the 7th leading scorer in the NBA (19.2 ppg, 56% FG).


Luke will probably still have him come off the bench if he was top 5 in scoring during the regular season for not setting screens.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:45 am    Post subject:

Well, he should continue to come off the bench anyway.

It's not like the guy isn't getting serious minutes. When Lonzo Ball starts and gets some conditioning, I may reconsider.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject:

The scary thing about all this Kuzma hype is that Lonzo hasnt even been in the fold yet. Lonzo only enhances Kuzma's game.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:08 am    Post subject:

Funny thing is that Magic has compared Lonzo and BI to himself and Worthy, but it appears that Kuz is better suited to the James Worthy role.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject:

socalsp3 wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Per NBA.com:

Kyle Kuzma is currently the 7th leading scorer in the NBA (19.2 ppg, 56% FG).


Luke will probably still have him come off the bench if he was top 5 in scoring during the regular season for not setting screens.


What's crazy to me is that Luke picks out things that are positives and re-paints them as negatives.

He says Kuzma slipping screens breaks the offense, but what offense are we running in the first place? If it's all reads, as Luke wants, maybe Kuzma is just making the right read?

At least Kuzma is always moving out there. I just don't like how Luke inserts these little jabs against certain guys. You just know he's going to use them in the future to justify reducing Kuzma's minutes for whatever reasons.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject:

RCS926 wrote:
Funny thing is that Magic has compared Lonzo and BI to himself and Worthy, but it appears that Kuz is better suited to the James Worthy role.


Kuz is Magic + Worthy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject:

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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:11 am    Post subject:

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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.


Still waiting for a reporter to have it in them to ask the elephant in the room if he's considered playing Kuzma at the 3 and having him and Ingram battle it out. Can someone PLEASE ask him a variation of this question instead of getting it danced around?

"Does Ingram have the Small Forward position locked down, or do you see a kind of similar battle between him and Kuzma?"

See? Doesn't ruffle any feathers and should address his stance on Kuzma vs Ingram for that position.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:32 am    Post subject:

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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.


Still waiting for a reporter to have it in them to ask the elephant in the room if he's considered playing Kuzma at the 3 and having him and Ingram battle it out. Can someone PLEASE ask him a variation of this question instead of getting it danced around?

"Does Ingram have the Small Forward position locked down, or do you see a kind of similar battle between him and Kuzma?"

See? Doesn't ruffle any feathers and should address his stance on Kuzma vs Ingram for that position.


He'll probably give BI a month to see what he has. If they don't play well or BI struggles his hands will be forced. At least Luke can say to Magic at that point he tried.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:37 am    Post subject:

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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.


What, is Walton going to roll a d20 and if it rolls a 5 or 10 he's gonna start him? Comeon man...don't play games Luke.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:58 am    Post subject:

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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.


Still waiting for a reporter to have it in them to ask the elephant in the room if he's considered playing Kuzma at the 3 and having him and Ingram battle it out. Can someone PLEASE ask him a variation of this question instead of getting it danced around?

"Does Ingram have the Small Forward position locked down, or do you see a kind of similar battle between him and Kuzma?"

See? Doesn't ruffle any feathers and should address his stance on Kuzma vs Ingram for that position.


He'll probably give BI a month to see what he has. If they don't play well or BI struggles his hands will be forced. At least Luke can say to Magic at that point he tried.


Yeah team politics are keeping Ingram safe rn. Hopefully merit eventually wins out
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:07 pm    Post subject:

Don Draper wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Per NBA.com:

Kyle Kuzma is currently the 7th leading scorer in the NBA (19.2 ppg, 56% FG).


Luke will probably still have him come off the bench if he was top 5 in scoring during the regular season for not setting screens.


What's crazy to me is that Luke picks out things that are positives and re-paints them as negatives.

He says Kuzma slipping screens breaks the offense, but what offense are we running in the first place? If it's all reads, as Luke wants, maybe Kuzma is just making the right read?

At least Kuzma is always moving out there. I just don't like how Luke inserts these little jabs against certain guys. You just know he's going to use them in the future to justify reducing Kuzma's minutes for whatever reasons.


You're reading too much into Luke's words. I think he loves what Kuzma bring to the table, but he's just trying to make sure Kuz understands the importance of setting a good pick. This is especially important if it's part of a play that's mean to free up the ball handler so that other progressions can open up. It benefits Kuz as well to mix things up because teams are going to figure soon that he always slips screens. Setting good hard screens at the right time will allow him to be even more effective when he does slip those screens.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:08 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.


Still waiting for a reporter to have it in them to ask the elephant in the room if he's considered playing Kuzma at the 3 and having him and Ingram battle it out. Can someone PLEASE ask him a variation of this question instead of getting it danced around?

"Does Ingram have the Small Forward position locked down, or do you see a kind of similar battle between him and Kuzma?"

See? Doesn't ruffle any feathers and should address his stance on Kuzma vs Ingram for that position.


Kuzma has played the 3
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:08 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.


Still waiting for a reporter to have it in them to ask the elephant in the room if he's considered playing Kuzma at the 3 and having him and Ingram battle it out. Can someone PLEASE ask him a variation of this question instead of getting it danced around?

"Does Ingram have the Small Forward position locked down, or do you see a kind of similar battle between him and Kuzma?"

See? Doesn't ruffle any feathers and should address his stance on Kuzma vs Ingram for that position.


Seems like an obvious question. Wonder if GT has built up enough cred yet to rattle the cage a bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject:

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socalsp3 wrote:
MJST wrote:
saetarubia wrote:
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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.


Still waiting for a reporter to have it in them to ask the elephant in the room if he's considered playing Kuzma at the 3 and having him and Ingram battle it out. Can someone PLEASE ask him a variation of this question instead of getting it danced around?

"Does Ingram have the Small Forward position locked down, or do you see a kind of similar battle between him and Kuzma?"

See? Doesn't ruffle any feathers and should address his stance on Kuzma vs Ingram for that position.


He'll probably give BI a month to see what he has. If they don't play well or BI struggles his hands will be forced. At least Luke can say to Magic at that point he tried.


Yeah team politics are keeping Ingram safe rn. Hopefully merit eventually wins out


Exactly how do you know this to be the case? Ingrams been with the team longer. They have a larger data set on who he is and therefore a greater comfort level.
I like Kuzma as a starter too, but if he doesn't get the job attributing it to politics is absurd. The cream will always rise to the top and if Kuzma deserves to be the starter, he'll get the job.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:15 pm    Post subject:

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If the Lakers got the 10th pick to draft Kyle Kuzma, at the time of the trade, the Internet would have absolutely blown up and I'm kind of bummed it didn't happen now

I would've been flipping out about them passing on Monk.


I would have too considering you had potential lights out shooters in Kennard, TJ Leaf, etc. They already know this roster is full of suspect shooters sans DLO/Lopez at the time.

Hopefully Kuzma proves to be a better deep shooter than he was in college.
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saetarubia wrote:
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Walton said there is a 10 percent chance Kyle Kuzma starts at power forward on opening night. Very much a Nance/Randle battle.


hmm, weird battle....I mean it is pretty clear Randle has been more productive as an individual player, but Nance seems to fit better with Lopez in the starting lineup.
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