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Wilt LG Contributor
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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NYT reporter says 24 people may be dead. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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27 is the number I see now. No need to pray, they were already doing that and were murdered. |
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Huey Lewis & The News Star Player
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ted Cruz has sent his prayers. So everything will be fine. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Watching Joel Osteen on TV is safer these days. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Buck32 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | 27 is the number I see now. No need to pray, they were already doing that and were murdered. |
Prayers are easier for lawmakers than taking a stand. _________________ “Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov |
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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So horrible. Praying for all the families affected!
Seems we get an event like this every few weeks |
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Huey Lewis & The News wrote: | now is not the time for a gun control debate |
It's no longer a big city problem, either. Even the church in a Footloosian town in Texas. Things Ren McCormick never had to think about.
But still, average American slobs must have access to military grade weaponry. I think the only way to solve this problem is for everyone to be armed. That's the ticket. Ol blue haired Myrtle in the first pew could've taken this guy out with a double tap if only she were packing. Her Bingo friend Ethel could've canoed him while he was down. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
SEDALE TRIBUTE
EDDIE DONX! |
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22 wrote: | So horrible. Praying for all the families affected!
Seems we get an event like this every few weeks |
Been watching this Active Shooter program on SHO(time) channel. They had to postpone the 2nd episode because it fell on the same night as the Vegas massacre. This week they talked about the 2013 Santa Monica shootings (deranged 20-something killed his family, shot into a bus, killed motorists, killed people at a college). Perp was a kid the police had already talked to years before. He asked the cop if he could hold his gun and the cop asked what he would do with it and he told him which people in his college class he'd kill, etc. They took him into custody and to a psychiatric hospital. Few years later, he winds up doing what he threatened. He was still of course able to buy loads of ammo and an AR15 receiver and other parts to assemble a functioning weapon. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
SEDALE TRIBUTE
EDDIE DONX! |
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Shooter is a white guy in his 20s named Devin Patrick Kelley.
But, by rule, he cannot be a terrorist and has to have some kind of mental health problem. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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non-player zealot Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | Shooter is a white guy in his 20s named Devin Patrick Kelley.
But, by rule, he cannot be a terrorist and has to have some kind of mental health problem. |
Same as Luby's Cafeteria in 1991. 22 dead. Used two modern automatic pistols with high capacity clips.
http://tinyurl.com/yblclao4 _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-41880700
Quote: | Live Reporting
By Kevin Ponniah and David Walker
Posted at 16:24
Suspected gunman named by US media
ABC News, citing law enforcement sources, have named the suspected gunman as 26-year-old Devin Kelley from New Braunfels, Texas.
Police have reportedly searched his home for explosives. |
https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-patrick-kelley-idd-as-sutherland-springs-church-killer
Quote: | A LinkedIn account appearing to belong to Kelley describes him as serving in the U.S. Air Force from his 2009 high-school graduation until 2013, after which he briefly taught at a summer Bible school. |
**My thoughts were a mentally ill veteran....**^^
RIP to all..
Cannot comprehend ... |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | Shooter is a white guy in his 20s named Devin Patrick Kelley.
But, by rule, he cannot be a terrorist and has to have some kind of mental health problem. |
Time for the Irish to be frightened and TSA to stop all Irish from entering
Trump needs to find out how to stop these Christian Terrorists from attacking Americans.. need to stop their countries from fueling terrorism and stop their religion from creating these extremists |
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I don't remember this many shootings, vehicles used as instruments of terror in America. Is this a sign of the times or social degeneration? What the hell's going on??? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Another White American Male kills two dozen fellow citizens . . . cue the crickets from our elected "leaders". _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Buck32 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | Another White American Male kills two dozen fellow citizens . . . cue the crickets from our elected "leaders". |
I wonder how they would react if this happened in Congress? _________________ “Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Buck32 wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Another White American Male kills two dozen fellow citizens . . . cue the crickets from our elected "leaders". |
I wonder how they would react if this happened in Congress? |
All hell would break loose. If someone smuggles a weapon into the chamber, heads would roll. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Buck32 wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Another White American Male kills two dozen fellow citizens . . . cue the crickets from our elected "leaders". |
I wonder how they would react if this happened in Congress? |
Well, a Congressman and others were shot at a softball game and they didn't bat an eye . . . _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | Another White American Male kills two dozen fellow citizens . . . cue the crickets from our elected "leaders". |
Just another poor, misunderstood, mentally ill white guy.
Not like the "animals" we need to build walls and vet extremely to keep out... _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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26 and counting, what is up with people??? _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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non-player zealot wrote: | 22 wrote: | So horrible. Praying for all the families affected!
Seems we get an event like this every few weeks |
Been watching this Active Shooter program on SHO(time) channel. They had to postpone the 2nd episode because it fell on the same night as the Vegas massacre. This week they talked about the 2013 Santa Monica shootings (deranged 20-something killed his family, shot into a bus, killed motorists, killed people at a college). Perp was a kid the police had already talked to years before. He asked the cop if he could hold his gun and the cop asked what he would do with it and he told him which people in his college class he'd kill, etc. They took him into custody and to a psychiatric hospital. Few years later, he winds up doing what he threatened. He was still of course able to buy loads of ammo and an AR15 receiver and other parts to assemble a functioning weapon. |
that’s crazy. Really makes you feel helpless when they had that guy earlier and he was still able to carry out his plans |
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jodeke wrote: | RE-POST
I don't remember this many shootings, vehicles used as instruments of terror in America. Is this a sign of the times or social degeneration? What the hell's going on??? |
You already know the answer. Some of this is crazy people with guns (Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, the Denver theater). Some of it is actual terrorism. The end result is the same. The difference is the motivation. For the victims, that doesn’t matter.
Welcome to the new normal. I’m sad to say that this one didn’t even spark an emotional reaction from me, at least beyond the superficial level. As the saying goes, one death is a tragedy, a thousand deaths is a statistic. These things are becoming statistics. That sucks. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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I deleted all the political talk since I started it. My bad.
However, I will say IMO there is no way to answer the question "Why is this happening?" fully unless the answer takes into account the political realities we are facing. So anyone who wants to discuss that is free to continue that discussion in the Politics Thread.
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