View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Raijin Star Player
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 6576
|
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
mhan00 wrote: | Porzingis has arguably surpassed Towns as the guy from that draft. Incredible. |
Another good reason to fire Mitch and Jim _________________ "It was tough," Kobe Bryant said. "But when it got really tough for me, I just checked myself in." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Gatekeeper Star Player
Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Posts: 5103 Location: Southland Native
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
ryan_c Star Player
Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 1371
|
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It is unbelievable that Phil wants Porzingis to be traded. But Knicks should be still thankful to Phil for drafting Porzingis. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Omar Little Moderator
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90307 Location: Formerly Known As 24
|
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Raijin wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | Porzingis has arguably surpassed Towns as the guy from that draft. Incredible. |
Another good reason to fire Mitch and Jim |
So, since Draymond is probably the second best player from the 2012 draft, does that mean everyone from pick 2 through 34 (including the Warriors GM, who picked Ezeli several slots higher) committed a firing offense? _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Runway8 Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 22853 Location: La Jolla, San Diego
|
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Raijin wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | Porzingis has arguably surpassed Towns as the guy from that draft. Incredible. |
Another good reason to fire Mitch and Jim |
If you're not allowed to make draft mistakes, there would be ZERO front offices in the NBA because they'd all be fired. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
yinoma2001 Retired Number
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 119487
|
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Porky is balling. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Conker Franchise Player
Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 13056 Location: MDC
|
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Mike -at- LG been saying Porzingis is overrated. I knew the dude had the potential from the start. _________________ (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) ʕʘᴥʘʔ (⌐ ͡■ ͜ʖ ͡■) (┛◉Д◉)┛( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽ |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PHILosophize Franchise Player
Joined: 05 Nov 2012 Posts: 10758
|
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
porzingis is nuts _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PHILosophize Franchise Player
Joined: 05 Nov 2012 Posts: 10758
|
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
gotta be in the mvp hunt early _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Snipes Star Player
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 6040
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
mhan00 wrote: | Porzingis has arguably surpassed Towns as the guy from that draft. Incredible. |
Yup. Edge to Towns still but if Porz keeps this up? Wooo. These guys are going to go back n forth for years being the "that guy" from that draft. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tox Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Nov 2015 Posts: 17880
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
Jokic
KAT
Porzingis
Embiid
Crazy time we're living in |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ryan_c Star Player
Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 1371
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
Snipes wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | Porzingis has arguably surpassed Towns as the guy from that draft. Incredible. |
Yup. Edge to Towns still but if Porz keeps this up? Wooo. These guys are going to go back n forth for years being the "that guy" from that draft. |
i give the edge to porz as he plays better defense. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
andree Starting Rotation
Joined: 05 May 2014 Posts: 519
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
ryan_c wrote: | Snipes wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | Porzingis has arguably surpassed Towns as the guy from that draft. Incredible. |
Yup. Edge to Towns still but if Porz keeps this up? Wooo. These guys are going to go back n forth for years being the "that guy" from that draft. |
i give the edge to porz as he plays better defense. |
And offense. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
andree Starting Rotation
Joined: 05 May 2014 Posts: 519
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
Ironically, if we didn't have "luck" and not jumped 2 positions in the draft in 2015, Porzingis would have been a Laker.
We had the 4th worst record. Minny-KAT, NY-Okafor, Philly- Russel and Lakers -Porj with the afferent "boo". So much for the "luck". |
|
Back to top |
|
|
PayasoLoco Franchise Player
Joined: 07 Jul 2001 Posts: 16663
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
Raijin wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | Porzingis has arguably surpassed Towns as the guy from that draft. Incredible. |
Another good reason to fire Mitch and Jim |
To be fair as a huge hater of Mitch the GM he was intrigued by porzingis but then Scott and coaches didn’t like him if I remember correctly |
|
Back to top |
|
|
2019 Franchise Player
Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 10812
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
tox wrote: | Jokic
KAT
Porzingis
Embiid
Crazy time we're living in |
Add Ayton to that mix this summer.
People keep taking about this being a guards league but that is something of this current generation. Next gen is starting to be dominated by huge wings/forwards (Giannis, Simmons, Ingram, etc) and bigs with elite skills in passing, shooting, post moves, etc.
Few months ago I thought DLO was on par with KP and the pick success was still TBD. KP has clearly surpassed everyone including Towns. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
2019 Franchise Player
Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 10812
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
Raijin wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | Porzingis has arguably surpassed Towns as the guy from that draft. Incredible. |
Another good reason to fire Mitch and Jim |
Disagree but it is frustrating to know that Mitch and Jim and scouting were apparently very high on him but were worries about blowback from fans if he busted. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144474 Location: The Gold Coast
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
I will wait until he finishes a season to decide. Right now his nickname is “when healthy”. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
andree Starting Rotation
Joined: 05 May 2014 Posts: 519
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
venturalakersfan wrote: | I will wait until he finishes a season to decide. Right now his nickname is “when healthy”. |
You're talking about Embiid or Porzingis? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
lakers0505 Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 10701
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Porky is a beast, 30/8/2
Plus some monster games over the last 3.
Ya we totally (bleep) that one up, good for the Knicks though... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
jonnybravo Retired Number
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 30710
|
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
venturalakersfan wrote: | I will wait until he finishes a season to decide. Right now his nickname is “when healthy”. |
He's played a total of 5 less games than D'lo so I'm sure you're using that same moniker for D'lo too right...? _________________ KOBE |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tox Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Nov 2015 Posts: 17880
|
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
2019 wrote: | tox wrote: | Jokic
KAT
Porzingis
Embiid
Crazy time we're living in |
Add Ayton to that mix this summer.
People keep taking about this being a guards league but that is something of this current generation. Next gen is starting to be dominated by huge wings/forwards (Giannis, Simmons, Ingram, etc) and bigs with elite skills in passing, shooting, post moves, etc.
Few months ago I thought DLO was on par with KP and the pick success was still TBD. KP has clearly surpassed everyone including Towns. |
I agree that this is trending towards a bigs league. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense, too. The big guys who are dominating the league all have guard skills to various extents: think Boogie, AD, Giannis, Simmons, Jokic, Towns, Porzingis, Embiid. It just took time for them to show up, because a future NBA big man born in 1988 probably still grew up idolizing Shaq. Fast forward 3-6 years, and these guys mostly didn't watch Shaq in his prime (I'm in that age range so I know well). So these guys are modeling their games after KD, Kobe, LeBron, etc., and that batch of skilled big men is hitting the league right now.
Guys like Alex Len and Jahlil Okafor are largely wastes of lottery picks at this point. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
governator Retired Number
Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 25092
|
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
andree wrote: | Ironically, if we didn't have "luck" and not jumped 2 positions in the draft in 2015, Porzingis would have been a Laker.
We had the 4th worst record. Minny-KAT, NY-Okafor, Philly- Russel and Lakers -Porj with the afferent "boo". So much for the "luck". |
Then you won't get BI/Ball |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Chronicle Retired Number
Joined: 21 Jul 2012 Posts: 31935 Location: Manhattan
|
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
They wouldn't have taken porz at 4 either _________________ Kobe |
|
Back to top |
|
|
2019 Franchise Player
Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 10812
|
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
tox wrote: | 2019 wrote: | tox wrote: | Jokic
KAT
Porzingis
Embiid
Crazy time we're living in |
Add Ayton to that mix this summer.
People keep taking about this being a guards league but that is something of this current generation. Next gen is starting to be dominated by huge wings/forwards (Giannis, Simmons, Ingram, etc) and bigs with elite skills in passing, shooting, post moves, etc.
Few months ago I thought DLO was on par with KP and the pick success was still TBD. KP has clearly surpassed everyone including Towns. |
I agree that this is trending towards a bigs league. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense, too. The big guys who are dominating the league all have guard skills to various extents: think Boogie, AD, Giannis, Simmons, Jokic, Towns, Porzingis, Embiid. It just took time for them to show up, because a future NBA big man born in 1988 probably still grew up idolizing Shaq. Fast forward 3-6 years, and these guys mostly didn't watch Shaq in his prime (I'm in that age range so I know well). So these guys are modeling their games after KD, Kobe, LeBron, etc., and that batch of skilled big men is hitting the league right now.
Guys like Alex Len and Jahlil Okafor are largely wastes of lottery picks at this point. |
Exactly... bigs now a days have guard skills which has completely inverted the way teams can scheme.
Hence one of the reasons why I want Cousins so bad... the man can put up 28/12 like it's nothing and does so while shooting from 3, pushing the tempo, playing physical, mid range, post ups, making the right passes, and being an underrated post defender. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|