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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:16 pm Post subject: Simmons and Embiid are the modern day Lebron and Hakeem |
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This is a fun hot take thread. But like every joke, there is an ounce of truth in it.
Simmons is an oversized, over-athletic, dominating Point (of attack). Embiid is a multi-skilled, triple-threat, high efficiency big able to set screens like Marc Gasol and run up the floor better than a C like Jokic. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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saetarubia Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Embiid was compared to Hakeem coming out of college. Would have probably gone #1 if not for the injury. _________________ Showtime 2.0 |
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27 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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watching those two against the clippers today was something. I dunno how Lakers are going to stop Embiid, let alone Embiid AND Simmons. |
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LakersNewEra Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:46 am Post subject: |
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That was just insane. Embiid was dominant and Simmons was just dunking everything. This team will be unstoppable. |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:11 am Post subject: |
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bigger version of LeBron and Hakeem, they should be with the Lakers |
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Gimme_the_rock Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:50 am Post subject: |
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LakersNewEra wrote: | That was just insane. Embiid was dominant and Simmons was just dunking everything. This team will be unstoppable. |
For 30 - 50 games a season. _________________ We back. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:07 am Post subject: |
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I think Simmons is Magic's heir.
Embiid, so much of it is dependent on his health. Could sadly be a shortened career. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Gimme_the_rock Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Embiid is also a bit of bag. Hard for me to root for _________________ We back. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Gimme_the_rock wrote: | Embiid is also a bit of bag. Hard for me to root for |
He is. Went from loveable big guy to a jerk. He'll cross the line soon enough. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:43 am Post subject: |
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modern day lebron _________________ Kobe |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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I predict a Bogut/Embiid scuffle. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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LakersNewEra Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Simmons is good but he is no LeBron. Can anyome ever be?
At this point Simmons is a more dominant Odom with scoring which is a devastating player...but still a few notches below LeBron. |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:53 am Post subject: |
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27 wrote: | watching those two against the clippers today was something. I dunno how Lakers are going to stop Embiid, let alone Embiid AND Simmons. |
Randle can slow down simmons. because he's a strong guy thats 6'9 that is also very quick laterally. now will the refs allow it or will they have Ju in foul trouble? we shall see.
Ingram will probably get bullied guarding simmons.
Lopez can some what defend embiid in the paint. he wont stop his moves from outside but thats ok. just dont let him get the inside the paint stuff. |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:54 am Post subject: |
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LakersNewEra wrote: | Simmons is good but he is no LeBron. Can anyome ever be?
At this point Simmons is a more dominant Odom with scoring which is a devastating player...but still a few notches below LeBron. | you do realize thats lebron james right?
a thicker, stronger LO, with more athleticism. yeah, thats LBJ. |
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LakersNewEra Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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splashmtn wrote: | LakersNewEra wrote: | Simmons is good but he is no LeBron. Can anyome ever be?
At this point Simmons is a more dominant Odom with scoring which is a devastating player...but still a few notches below LeBron. | you do realize thats lebron james right?
a thicker, stronger LO, with more athleticism. yeah, thats LBJ. |
I knew someone was gonna say that but no, thats not LeBron LeBron is still way above that. To put it in simple terms, stat wise LeBron is a 30 ppg player, the player I described, Odom with scoring, my projection for Simmons is a 22-24 ppg player. Thats a big difference. Might not seem like much but for comparison sake its difference between Giannis this year and Giannis last year. Thats a substantial difference.
Being all things that LeBron is, thats all time top 5 level. Difficult level to reach. |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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LakersNewEra wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | LakersNewEra wrote: | Simmons is good but he is no LeBron. Can anyome ever be?
At this point Simmons is a more dominant Odom with scoring which is a devastating player...but still a few notches below LeBron. | you do realize thats lebron james right?
a thicker, stronger LO, with more athleticism. yeah, thats LBJ. |
I knew someone was gonna say that but no, thats not LeBron LeBron is still way above that. To put it in simple terms, stat wise LeBron is a 30 ppg player, the player I described, Odom with scoring, my projection for Simmons is a 22-24 ppg player. Thats a big difference. Might not seem like much but for comparison sake its difference between Giannis this year and Giannis last year. Thats a substantial difference.
Being all things that LeBron is, thats all time top 5 level. Difficult level to reach. |
compare both rookie stat (LBJ and Simmons) |
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Gimme_the_rock Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | I predict a Bogut/Embiid scuffle. |
I hope so. Bogut has actual bully chops and has little to lose. Embiid is all show and a Mr. Glass in his own right. _________________ We back. |
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easybreeze Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say, since they have not made it to the finals.
They are more like Blake G. and D Howard. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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saetarubia wrote: | Embiid was compared to Hakeem coming out of college. Would have probably gone #1 if not for the injury. |
It is the footwork, Embiid had the best since Hakeem. If he gets that back he will dominate. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Gimme_the_rock wrote: | Embiid is also a bit of bag. Hard for me to root for |
I find him hilarious _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Bol Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly couldn't ask for a much better duo to build around aside from health problems. Kind of amazing that even with this year's #1 pick doing nothing so far and the #3 pick from a couple years ago being useless, they look very well set up for now and the future. Still, I thought the Magic with Shaq and Penny were going to own the league for over a decade and later thought the Roy/Oden/Aldridge Blazers would win titles someday, so there are definitely ways for future dynasties to be derailed. |
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PayasoLoco Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Watching Embid dominate the post and shoot 3s just makes me wonder what Bynum could have been if his head and health were in it. |
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nickuku Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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PayasoLoco wrote: | Watching Embid dominate the post and shoot 3s just makes me wonder what Bynum could have been if his head and health were in it. |
Hell no. Not even close and I hate embiid. |
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carlosLisboa Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Simmons is the modern day Billy Owens (the young version).
Embiid reminds more of Zo Morning, for his arrogance. _________________ -----------------------------------------------------
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