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adkindo
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
aaand you lost me there. |
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iimarshon
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It’s early but Kuzma has been better than Tatum
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hydrohead
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Solid top 5
Mitchell
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OCWA
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
Wasn't, Kobe, our, Kobe? |
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pjiddy
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
He was the guy I felt bad about passing on. I wanted Ball more, but Tatum was the only guy I wouldn't have complained about. And yes, the receipts are out there. |
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methdxman
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Kuz has a legitimate shot at winning ROY if Puke starts him.
But it's Simmons to lose at this point. You could argue his rookie season is better than Lebron's. |
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tox
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| pjiddy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
He was the guy I felt bad about passing on. I wanted Ball more, but Tatum was the only guy I wouldn't have complained about. And yes, the receipts are out there. |
I was worried that his upside was like a Carmelo Anthony. Mike tried setting me straight, to no avail.
Lol I suck, but luckily I don't claim to have any draft expertise and just form impressions based on my understanding of other people's posts  |
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danzag
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:07 am Post subject: |
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We got some talent! |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| methdxman wrote: | Kuz has a legitimate shot at winning ROY if Puke starts him.
But it's Simmons to lose at this point. You could argue his rookie season is better than Lebron's. |
I don't consider Simmons a rookie. He could have played some last year but "the process" held him out. |
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| tox wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
He was the guy I felt bad about passing on. I wanted Ball more, but Tatum was the only guy I wouldn't have complained about. And yes, the receipts are out there. |
I was worried that his upside was like a Carmelo Anthony. Mike tried setting me straight, to no avail.
Lol I suck, but luckily I don't claim to have any draft expertise and just form impressions based on my understanding of other people's posts |
Was impossible to predict him improving his shooting that much.. and with that threat flanking his handle/driving , with a midrange game ready to hit you too.. he's quite the scoring threat. |
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Luminous8
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| Kuzma does more for the team than Mitchell does for the Jazz IMO. Both are primarily scorers with one track minds offensively, but Kuzma is a big part with Ingram and Randle in our mobile defense. |
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | Kuzma does more for the team than Mitchell does for the Jazz IMO. Both are primarily scorers with one track minds offensively, but Kuzma is a big part with Ingram and Randle in our mobile defense. |
Kuzma is also much more efficient than Mitchell too.
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| tox wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
He was the guy I felt bad about passing on. I wanted Ball more, but Tatum was the only guy I wouldn't have complained about. And yes, the receipts are out there. |
I was worried that his upside was like a Carmelo Anthony. Mike tried setting me straight, to no avail.
Lol I suck, but luckily I don't claim to have any draft expertise and just form impressions based on my understanding of other people's posts |
You suck? I was the one thinking that Simmons was overrated. 
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Baron Von Humongous
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | tox wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
He was the guy I felt bad about passing on. I wanted Ball more, but Tatum was the only guy I wouldn't have complained about. And yes, the receipts are out there. |
I was worried that his upside was like a Carmelo Anthony. Mike tried setting me straight, to no avail.
Lol I suck, but luckily I don't claim to have any draft expertise and just form impressions based on my understanding of other people's posts |
Was impossible to predict him improving his shooting that much.. and with that threat flanking his handle/driving , with a midrange game ready to hit you too.. he's quite the scoring threat. |
It's also a marathon, not a sprint. Blake Griffin was the right choice at #1 in 2009, but Curry and Harden have surpassed him. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | tox wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
He was the guy I felt bad about passing on. I wanted Ball more, but Tatum was the only guy I wouldn't have complained about. And yes, the receipts are out there. |
I was worried that his upside was like a Carmelo Anthony. Mike tried setting me straight, to no avail.
Lol I suck, but luckily I don't claim to have any draft expertise and just form impressions based on my understanding of other people's posts |
You suck? I was the one thinking that Simmons was overrated. |
I'm still standing alone in my corner quietly stanning for Bender and Monk. One day they'll break out. One day... |
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| Megaton wrote: | | Luminous8 wrote: | | Kuzma does more for the team than Mitchell does for the Jazz IMO. Both are primarily scorers with one track minds offensively, but Kuzma is a big part with Ingram and Randle in our mobile defense. |
Kuzma is also much more efficient than Mitchell too. |
Mitchell is a better defender and has more responsibility as an initiator in Utah. I'd expect his shooting efficiency to be lower given the difference in their roles: 65% of Kuzma's FGs are assisted versus 38% for Mitchell. |
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pio2u
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AFireInside619
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| This new NBA Rookie Ladder guy is much, much better than the previous one. The last guy completely hated the Lakers for years. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| OCWA wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
Wasn't, Kobe, our, Kobe? |
I laughed so hard at this. |
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Sorry to interrupt buuuuuut Simmons is not a Rookie I smell bull$hit on this one.
If he gets it I will throw something.
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pjiddy
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | tox wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
He was the guy I felt bad about passing on. I wanted Ball more, but Tatum was the only guy I wouldn't have complained about. And yes, the receipts are out there. |
I was worried that his upside was like a Carmelo Anthony. Mike tried setting me straight, to no avail.
Lol I suck, but luckily I don't claim to have any draft expertise and just form impressions based on my understanding of other people's posts |
You suck? I was the one thinking that Simmons was overrated. |
Full disclosure, I also assumed Fultz was off the board at this point. But would have taken him over Ball  |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | tox wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | cthroatgtr wrote: | | How is Kuzma not second? East Coast bias strikes again. |
Tatum is better. And only 19. He will be much better at 22. |
Tatum also shooting 49% from 3. |
The guy is a born scorer, that is why I wanted to draft him. It had nothing to do with Lonzo who I think will be good. He could have been our Kobe. |
He was the guy I felt bad about passing on. I wanted Ball more, but Tatum was the only guy I wouldn't have complained about. And yes, the receipts are out there. |
I was worried that his upside was like a Carmelo Anthony. Mike tried setting me straight, to no avail.
Lol I suck, but luckily I don't claim to have any draft expertise and just form impressions based on my understanding of other people's posts |
You suck? I was the one thinking that Simmons was overrated. |
Full disclosure, I also assumed Fultz was off the board at this point. But would have taken him over Ball |
I'm waiting for the Josh Jackson fans are at. Although he may show out in a couple of years. Maybe. |
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