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Wildchild027 Star Player
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:25 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | So Dr. No, aka MJST, what is your master plan for the next 2 years for the Lakers since you seemingly don't want LBJ or PG13 on this team? Could you give us a concise vision of how you take this team to the playoffs next season, then a top 3-4 seed by 2019? |
Simple answer, ain’t going to happen |
Concise response or making the playoffs without 2 max players? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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iimarshon Star Player
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Wildchild027 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | I think LBJ + Simmons/Embiid is too fantastic of a core to pass up. They'd worry about figuring it out later. The shooting would be suspect, but man, that's a crazy team to beat. |
I have a hard time seeing James playing with a 20, 22 and 24 y/o. Especially when he will be 34 himself. Again, I think Simmons and Embiid are fantastic, but I question if LeBron doesn't want to play with an older star. |
See that.
But the 76ers could then take Fultz, Saric, their own 2018 1st rounder, Lakers 2018 1st rounder, the Kings 2018 2nd rounder plus future picks and go get just about any star vet they want (Anthony Davis included).
Plus I think Wade goes wherever Bron goes for whatever room exception they have.
Simmons
Covington
LeBron
Anthony Davis
Embiid
w/ Wade, McConnell, Holmes off the bench plus vet min guys who want to play on the team.
its not a complete team. But the following year they'd have their ~8m MLE to get another shooter. _________________ 24 |
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cal1piggy Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:42 am Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | Wildchild027 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | I think LBJ + Simmons/Embiid is too fantastic of a core to pass up. They'd worry about figuring it out later. The shooting would be suspect, but man, that's a crazy team to beat. |
I have a hard time seeing James playing with a 20, 22 and 24 y/o. Especially when he will be 34 himself. Again, I think Simmons and Embiid are fantastic, but I question if LeBron doesn't want to play with an older star. |
See that.
But the 76ers could then take Fultz, Saric, their own 2018 1st rounder, Lakers 2018 1st rounder, the Kings 2018 2nd rounder plus future picks and go get just about any star vet they want (Anthony Davis included).
Plus I think Wade goes wherever Bron goes for whatever room exception they have.
Simmons
Covington
LeBron
Anthony Davis
Embiid
w/ Wade, McConnell, Holmes off the bench plus vet min guys who want to play on the team.
its not a complete team. But the following year they'd have their ~8m MLE to get another shooter. |
davis cannot stay healthy so it would have to be someone else.
the issue with james is his shelf-life.
that is why i prefer boogie and pg.
by 2020, james would be 36/37 and warriors would be getting a bit old too.
if we get pg/boogie, we would immediately take on warriors and 76ers and give either a really good 7 game series - with winner more dependent on healthy than anything else and Ball's development
if we get james, he could retire in 3 years.
at that point, the salary for bi/ballkuz would have shot up and we would not be able to sign another star to replace james. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:49 am Post subject: |
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By 2020 I could buy it, but not 2018. That would give our guys who are 2-3 years away the time to grow. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Interesting theory on why the Lakers are all of sudden being talked about as a team who might make a move for PG13. There has to be whispers that the agents have told the Lakers that getting a star player like a George/Cousins/Jordan will make it easier to attract and accomplish the goal of adding multiple stars to the team, yeah I might be wrong... but it’s interesting that speculation has arise on the subject of the Lakers making a move for a star. |
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cal1piggy Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:15 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | By 2020 I could buy it, but not 2018. That would give our guys who are 2-3 years away the time to grow. |
due to salary cap, 2018 or latest 2019 is the last change to have a young core and bring in 2 max.
2019 would require losing/trading randle and clarkson because bi salary would need to rise after that. |
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daytripper Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Obviously due to business and family reasons he will likely end up out here in the future. Property out here in LA is always a good investment too. Must be nice to pick up a mansion while only spending a fraction of your yearly NBA/sponsorship income.
I agree with others that he isn't coming in 2018. Even if another 'star' comes we are just too far away from contending against GS to even get out of the West. I could see it in 2020 as already mentioned by other posters. My guess is he stays with the Cavs for another 2 years and plays that out before moving on. Philly has some nice young players but they aren't beating LeBron/Cavs in the next year or two.
My best scenario is the Lakers stay on the path of developing the kids. Be patient. Sign Cousins next summer. Sign Klay in 2019 FA. Maybe we see LeBron in 2020 when Deng's contract is finally off the books. Yeah I understand JR/JC will not be kept under this scenario. It would also mean holding off on re-signing BI until 2020. |
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RestEasyBlackMamba Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Okafor and Russell in Brooklyn |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Okafor and Russell in Brooklyn as well as Nik Stauskas and another 2nd round pick and they gave Philly Trevor Booker.
Now the people that stabbed Okafor so hard that they hated Russell are having a crisis : 3 _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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HAHAAH. Dlo and Okafor fanboys can reunite in brooklyn. Nice!! |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Nets expected to release Sean Kilpatrick... we should pick him up. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Booker is a nice short-term get for Philly for Okafor and Stauskas' carcasses.
Maybe Atkinson can get something more out of the two busts, and it was worth a gamble, but I bet this will be a nothing trade by next summer. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Nets expected to release Sean Kilpatrick... we should pick him up. |
Who gets cut? Ennis? |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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wow the nets won that trade big time _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | wow the nets won that trade big time |
Booker > OK4 + Sauce |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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didn't the nets also get a 2nd round pick though _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Nets expected to release Sean Kilpatrick... we should pick him up. |
Who gets cut? Ennis? |
Yep, he would also be a very nice JC replacement once we ship Clarkson off. |
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pmacla Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Mozgov never seeing the court again lol |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | didn't the nets also get a 2nd round pick though |
Ooh, that's potentially the best piece in this deal depending on which 2nd the Sixers included. Good work by Marks there. |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | didn't the nets also get a 2nd round pick though |
Ooh, that's potentially the best piece in this deal depending on which 2nd the Sixers included. Good work by Marks there. |
yup I was thinking the pick is what gives them the edge on the trade _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Nets expected to release Sean Kilpatrick... we should pick him up. |
Who gets cut? Ennis? |
Yep, he would also be a very nice JC replacement once we ship Clarkson off. |
Yeah, he's like a discount JC. I could see that happening, though I don't know the team pecking order for the waiver wire right now. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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pmacla wrote: | Mozgov never seeing the court again lol |
Mitch |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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DJ is the next big to get traded |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Oak and Dlo are teammates. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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