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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:03 pm    Post subject:

It's a combo of Kuzma's confidence being rattled by Luke and rookie fatigue.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:05 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
It's a combo of Kuzma's confidence being rattled by Luke and rookie fatigue.


I don't see how Luke's rattling his confidence
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject:

He's human.. and he's a rookie..

Would also help if we ran plays to free him up before he actually gets the ball, while he's on the move.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma needs to work on his counters, I hope Kobe told him to feel the defense with his legs. But he definitely has to get in the gym to work on his core strength(for offense and defensive positioning), dribble game (needs a crossover) and fade away jumper.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject:

I think he’s also been hurt by not having Ball in the lineup.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject:

Rookie wall. He will be okay. The all star break will do him good.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
Rookie wall. He will be okay. The all star break will do him good.
EXACTLY!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:02 pm    Post subject:

I think the two players that need Ball the most to up their efficiency and scoring is Kuz and BI.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
It's a combo of Kuzma's confidence being rattled by Luke and rookie fatigue.


I think Kuzma is one of those guys who needs to start. I'd be interested in seeing his Per36 numbers as a starter vs. coming off of the bench.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:43 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
It's a combo of Kuzma's confidence being rattled by Luke and rookie fatigue.


I think Kuzma is one of those guys who needs to start. I'd be interested in seeing his Per36 numbers as a starter vs. coming off of the bench.

Starter (per-36): 19.1 points (55.0% TS%), 6.8 rbd, 1.9 assist... 743 minutes
Bench (per-36): 19.3 points (55.6% TS%), 7.1 rbd, 2.5 assist... 746 minutes

They're virtually the same, with maybe a slight advantage to bench but that's probably noise.

FWIW, he shoots 40% from 3 as a starter vs 33% as a bench player, and he plays more mpg as a starter than as a bench. The first fact means he probably has more memorable games as a starter (like that Rockets game) and the second fact probably means he has higher volume stats so his numbers look better due to increased minutes.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:20 am    Post subject:

Last 20 games, Kuz is shooting 38%FG 32%3PT and 57%FT.
He needs 13.5FGA to score 13.7pts.

I know he's cool and everything but those are just bad numbers. Especially when you consider the fact that he's not really doing anything on the court other than scoring.

Ingram gets destroyed here when he doesn't shoot the ball well, but he's playing injured, rebounds, playmakes, defends, and is 2 years and 2 months younger than Kuz.

I was expecting a more well rounded overall game from a 22 yo rookie.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:28 am    Post subject:

Afrosho wrote:
Last 20 games, Kuz is shooting 38%FG 32%3PT and 57%FT.
He needs 13.5FGA to score 13.7pts.

I know he's cool and everything but those are just bad numbers. Especially when you consider the fact that he's not really doing anything on the court other than scoring.

Ingram gets destroyed here when he doesn't shoot the ball well, but he's playing injured, rebounds, playmakes, defends, and is 2 years and 2 months younger than Kuz.

I was expecting a more well rounded overall game from a 22 yo rookie.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:31 am    Post subject:

Afrosho wrote:
Last 20 games, Kuz is shooting 38%FG 32%3PT and 57%FT.
He needs 13.5FGA to score 13.7pts.

I know he's cool and everything but those are just bad numbers. Especially when you consider the fact that he's not really doing anything on the court other than scoring.

Ingram gets destroyed here when he doesn't shoot the ball well, but he's playing injured, rebounds, playmakes, defends, and is 2 years and 2 months younger than Kuz.

I was expecting a more well rounded overall game from a 22 yo rookie.


I see your point, but FYI Kuz is outrebounding BI.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:51 am    Post subject:

markjay wrote:
Afrosho wrote:
Last 20 games, Kuz is shooting 38%FG 32%3PT and 57%FT.
He needs 13.5FGA to score 13.7pts.

I know he's cool and everything but those are just bad numbers. Especially when you consider the fact that he's not really doing anything on the court other than scoring.

Ingram gets destroyed here when he doesn't shoot the ball well, but he's playing injured, rebounds, playmakes, defends, and is 2 years and 2 months younger than Kuz.

I was expecting a more well rounded overall game from a 22 yo rookie.


I see your point, but FYI Kuz is outrebounding BI.

By a thing margin yes, but not during the stretch I am talking about. Kuz was great to start the season, there is no doubt about that.


First 30 games: 17.7pts 6.9rbds 50-40-77 (31.5mpg)
Last 20 games: 13.5pts 4.2rbds 38-32-57 (28.0mpg)

And Kuz is a PF.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:18 am    Post subject:

Kuz is just playing tired like all rooks. Transitioning from college schedule to pro schedule is tough for a rookie of any age.

Especially for a team built around fast break points.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:30 am    Post subject:

this is getting silly...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject:

Kyle Kuzma Rolls Around L.A. in a '70 Cadillac DeVille

Kool video/interview with Kyle Kuzma!!!

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Los Angeles Lakers rookie Kyle Kuzma was overlooked coming out of Utah. Now he's developed a cult following in L.A. and is a franchise cornerstone.



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject:

kuz‏Verified account
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Does he think he'll be traded?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject:

Team of the 80's wrote:
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Control what you can control 💼



Does he think he'll be traded?
Nope, that's just his mantra
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject:

tkLAKERS wrote:
Kuz is just playing tired like all rooks. Transitioning from college schedule to pro schedule is tough for a rookie of any age.

Especially for a team built around fast break points.


So is Hart but he still brings it on offense and defense and on the boards. But to Josh’s benefit, he is a champion player.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:00 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
tkLAKERS wrote:
Kuz is just playing tired like all rooks. Transitioning from college schedule to pro schedule is tough for a rookie of any age.

Especially for a team built around fast break points.


So is Hart but he still brings it on offense and defense and on the boards. But to Josh’s benefit, he is a champion player.


That is true. However, Kuzma has played 617 more minutes than Hart this season.

Edit: I am not diminishing Hart’s performance in any way, I am just saying Kuzma has logged almost 69% more playing time than Hart so far this season.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:04 am    Post subject:

Hart missed time because of an injury during summer league. Kuzma has been playing non-stop.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:07 am    Post subject:

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Hart missed time because of an injury during summer league. Kuzma has been playing non-stop.


Exactly. Kuz has played way beyond his total college minutes like Tatum. Hart has played less than half his college minutes. The comparison doesn’t hold up.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:19 am    Post subject:

Let's just say that we are fortunate to have both of them.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:21 am    Post subject:

We are, both can be important bench players for a winning team. It is looking good for the future.
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