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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Our new point guard is pretty good.
And I don't mean IT |
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mookielala Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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dao wrote: | I just love his decision making. I don't feel nervous when he's got the ball in his hands. 6 assists, 1 TO tonight. His assist:TO ratio has been fantastic at point forward. In 4 games, he's averaged 6.5 assists and 2.0 TO's. For a 20 year old wing, that's incredible. | |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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This is why I said a few weeks ago that he reminded me of Pippen.. and some of you went nuts lol.. Not saying he'll ever be on that level.. not saying he wont.. Just saying his game reminds me of Pippen when he's being a facilitator. |
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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His haters gonna say "man I can't believe I missed this game" again hahaa |
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dao Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | This is why I said a few weeks ago that he reminded me of Pippen.. and some of you went nuts lol.. Not saying he'll ever be on that level.. not saying he wont.. Just saying his game reminds me of Pippen when he's being a facilitator. | just looking at the stats, Ingram is ahead of 23 year old, second year Pippen as a passer. He's also several years ahead of guys like Batum/Durant, who also became excellent wing facilitators in their primes. |
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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^Heh, I bet Tox watched this game. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Team of the 80's Star Player
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 6095 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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His three pointer looks much more fluid. Could the shooting coach be paying off?
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Pippen didn't enter the league until age 22. Here is a per 36 minute comparison of Ingram now and Pippen in his rookie year:
Ingram (Age 20): 16.9 PPG (52.1% TS), 5.8 RPG, 3.9 APG, 0.8 STL, 0.8 BLK
Pippen (Age 22): 13.6 PPG (48.9% TS), 6.5 RPG, 3.7 APG, 2.0 SPG, 1.1 BPG
Not really a comparison defensively, yet... offensively, Ingram is clearly on par (and maybe ahead as a scorer) despite being two years younger. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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VicXLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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when do the stats catch up? |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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dao wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | This is why I said a few weeks ago that he reminded me of Pippen.. and some of you went nuts lol.. Not saying he'll ever be on that level.. not saying he wont.. Just saying his game reminds me of Pippen when he's being a facilitator. | just looking at the stats, Ingram is ahead of 23 year old, second year Pippen as a passer. He's also several years ahead of guys like Batum/Durant, who also became excellent wing facilitators in their primes. |
Not to mention he's still underdeveloped physically..
He's going to get faster and more explosive..
His shooting will continue to improve..
His passing and defense will also continue to improve.. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Made 3 threes
Makes me happy |
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bertrome Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Last 3 games: 64/67/82 shooting. |
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Black Sheep Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Very fortunate to have this guy on this team. Special player |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Pippen didn't enter the league until age 22. Here is a comparison of Ingram now and Pippen in his rookie year:
Ingram (Age 20): 16.9 PPG (52.1% TS), 5.8 RPG, 3.9 APG, 0.8 STL, 0.8 BLK
Pippen (Age 22): 13.6 PPG (48.9% TS), 6.5 RPG, 3.7 APG, 2.0 SPG, 1.1 BPG
Not really a comparison defensively, yet... offensively, Ingram is clearly on par (and maybe ahead as a scorer) despite being two years younger. |
Wow at those defensive stats from Pippen as a rook.. |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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78.3% from the FT line over the last 5. 60% from 3. |
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mookielala Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | dao wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | This is why I said a few weeks ago that he reminded me of Pippen.. and some of you went nuts lol.. Not saying he'll ever be on that level.. not saying he wont.. Just saying his game reminds me of Pippen when he's being a facilitator. | just looking at the stats, Ingram is ahead of 23 year old, second year Pippen as a passer. He's also several years ahead of guys like Batum/Durant, who also became excellent wing facilitators in their primes. |
Not to mention he's still underdeveloped physically..
He's going to get faster and more explosive..
His shooting will continue to improve..
His passing and defense will also continue to improve.. |
I just don't see the Pippen comparison, but it does look like BI is going to continue to improve. Barring injury, I think he could be an all-star in a couple years. |
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€H£M£$TR¥ Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | Made 3 threes
Makes me happy |
Getting to the line for free throws got Mamba and MJ into early shooting rhythm. Think that aggressiveness in the first got him on a good beat. Then JR got the low position and would just out man his defender. It’s meshes well in the half court sets. Then you got track stars to run the break. Saw a good number of awesome reads by the Capt. Great game, BI! _________________ DEAR BASKETBALL |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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mookielala wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | dao wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | This is why I said a few weeks ago that he reminded me of Pippen.. and some of you went nuts lol.. Not saying he'll ever be on that level.. not saying he wont.. Just saying his game reminds me of Pippen when he's being a facilitator. | just looking at the stats, Ingram is ahead of 23 year old, second year Pippen as a passer. He's also several years ahead of guys like Batum/Durant, who also became excellent wing facilitators in their primes. |
Not to mention he's still underdeveloped physically..
He's going to get faster and more explosive..
His shooting will continue to improve..
His passing and defense will also continue to improve.. |
I just don't see the Pippen comparison, but it does look like BI is going to continue to improve. Barring injury, I think he could be an all-star in a couple years. |
Pippen was able to manage the team while on the floor.. he could also be effective when he wasn't the primary ball handler. Excellent finisher, and on ball defender.
He just reminds me of Pippen in the way that he manages the team when asked.. There may be better comparables even though I don't like comparables. |
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GODBE Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if he will ever be a good defender with how slow he is starting/stopping and changing directions. He is really bad at getting around screens. We were lucky it was Felton using those screens. |
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mookielala Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | mookielala wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | dao wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | This is why I said a few weeks ago that he reminded me of Pippen.. and some of you went nuts lol.. Not saying he'll ever be on that level.. not saying he wont.. Just saying his game reminds me of Pippen when he's being a facilitator. | just looking at the stats, Ingram is ahead of 23 year old, second year Pippen as a passer. He's also several years ahead of guys like Batum/Durant, who also became excellent wing facilitators in their primes. |
Not to mention he's still underdeveloped physically..
He's going to get faster and more explosive..
His shooting will continue to improve..
His passing and defense will also continue to improve.. |
I just don't see the Pippen comparison, but it does look like BI is going to continue to improve. Barring injury, I think he could be an all-star in a couple years. |
Pippen was able to manage the team while on the floor.. he could also be effective when he wasn't the primary ball handler. Excellent finisher, and on ball defender.
He just reminds me of Pippen in the way that he manages the team when asked.. There may be better comparables even though I don't like comparables. |
It's all good! Not like our opinions on it matter anyway.
This thread has taken a good turn lately, hasn't it? |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | defense wrote: | Rookie year
points 9.4
rebounds 4
assists 2.1
blocks .5
steals .6
FG .402
3FG .294
FT .621
This season (So far)
points 15.9
rebounds 5.4
assists 3.7
blocks .7
steals .8
FG .455
3FG .350
FT .679
Improvements across the board in only 4 more minutes a game. If he makes another jump like this next season we are talking about a great player. I would like to see him get better fundamentally on defense. Maybe get his block/steals to above 1. Over all I'm happy with him and remind myself he's only 20 years old still. |
Nice improvements. Think that undersells his defensive improvement too. |
Remember people complaining about Magic putting too much pressure on BI for saying he should average 15-20 points a game? |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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@mookielala Yea man.. the narrative shift is refreshing.. for now lol. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | tox wrote: | defense wrote: | Rookie year
points 9.4
rebounds 4
assists 2.1
blocks .5
steals .6
FG .402
3FG .294
FT .621
This season (So far)
points 15.9
rebounds 5.4
assists 3.7
blocks .7
steals .8
FG .455
3FG .350
FT .679
Improvements across the board in only 4 more minutes a game. If he makes another jump like this next season we are talking about a great player. I would like to see him get better fundamentally on defense. Maybe get his block/steals to above 1. Over all I'm happy with him and remind myself he's only 20 years old still. |
Nice improvements. Think that undersells his defensive improvement too. |
Remember people complaining about Magic putting too much pressure on BI for saying he should average 15-20 points a game? |
It was twenty, not 15-20 _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | tox wrote: | defense wrote: | Rookie year
points 9.4
rebounds 4
assists 2.1
blocks .5
steals .6
FG .402
3FG .294
FT .621
This season (So far)
points 15.9
rebounds 5.4
assists 3.7
blocks .7
steals .8
FG .455
3FG .350
FT .679
Improvements across the board in only 4 more minutes a game. If he makes another jump like this next season we are talking about a great player. I would like to see him get better fundamentally on defense. Maybe get his block/steals to above 1. Over all I'm happy with him and remind myself he's only 20 years old still. |
Nice improvements. Think that undersells his defensive improvement too. |
Remember people complaining about Magic putting too much pressure on BI for saying he should average 15-20 points a game? |
It was twenty, not 15-20 |
I had a feeling you were coming with that one lol
You have to think Magic is happy with the way he's playing regardless of not reaching 20ppg. Be a shame if he wasn't. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Luminous8 wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | tox wrote: | defense wrote: | Rookie year
points 9.4
rebounds 4
assists 2.1
blocks .5
steals .6
FG .402
3FG .294
FT .621
This season (So far)
points 15.9
rebounds 5.4
assists 3.7
blocks .7
steals .8
FG .455
3FG .350
FT .679
Improvements across the board in only 4 more minutes a game. If he makes another jump like this next season we are talking about a great player. I would like to see him get better fundamentally on defense. Maybe get his block/steals to above 1. Over all I'm happy with him and remind myself he's only 20 years old still. |
Nice improvements. Think that undersells his defensive improvement too. |
Remember people complaining about Magic putting too much pressure on BI for saying he should average 15-20 points a game? |
It was twenty, not 15-20 |
I had a feeling you were coming with that one lol
You have to think Magic is happy with the way he's playing regardless of not reaching 20ppg. Be a shame if he wasn't. |
Yeah, I’m in a good mood tonight. And yes, Magic should be pleased, and it’s good to see him playing less ball dominant ball too. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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