Official Goodbye LUKE WALTON Thread (Luke/Lakers Part Ways, p. 792, Signs Deal with Kings p. 809)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:48 pm    Post subject:

To be fair,Walton required some serious criticism to get over his headscratching lineups.

Its better now, but lead to a really (bleep) record to begin this season.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, if Luke went with the expected lineup, or heck if he'd switched it when the numbers showed how great the Lopez/Randle lineup was offensively and defensively, instead of barely ever going to it again, our record may have turned around a lot faster than it did.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:05 pm    Post subject:

Luke is a young coach with a young, ever changing team working for his second front office in two years, and the current front office has no experience either. It’s fair to worry about that and to criticize their work, but we should also acknowledge when they improve and learn and grow, as well as remembering their innate talents to begin with. I’ve been hard on both when I felt it was deserved, but I’d be an idiot to not acknowledge that right now, all of them are doing pretty pretty pretty well and learning from what does and doesn’t work. That’s all you can ask, even if you don’t like some past stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:12 pm    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
Luke is a young coach with a young, ever changing team working for his second front office in two years, and the current front office has no experience either. It’s fair to worry about that and to criticize their work, but we should also acknowledge when they improve and learn and grow, as well as remembering their innate talents to begin with. I’ve been hard on both when I felt it was deserved, but I’d be an idiot to not acknowledge that right now, all of them are doing pretty pretty pretty well and learning from what does and doesn’t work. That’s all you can ask, even if you don’t like some past stuff.


This. And it's almost cliche at this point but the entire culture and aura around the team seems to be so much more positive. Can't complain at all. Other than that horrible streak, we were playing good ball most of the year. Just couldn't close out early in the year but now we are.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject:

Luke deserves a lot of credit.

He’s had this team very competitive all season long. Not to mention the Lakers are currently playing their best basketball in what the last 4 years?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
Luke is a young coach with a young, ever changing team working for his second front office in two years, and the current front office has no experience either. It’s fair to worry about that and to criticize their work, but we should also acknowledge when they improve and learn and grow, as well as remembering their innate talents to begin with. I’ve been hard on both when I felt it was deserved, but I’d be an idiot to not acknowledge that right now, all of them are doing pretty pretty pretty well and learning from what does and doesn’t work. That’s all you can ask, even if you don’t like some past stuff.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:44 pm    Post subject:

Staccatos wrote:
To be fair,Walton required some serious criticism to get over his headscratching lineups.

Its better now, but lead to a really (bleep) record to begin this season.



Exactly! Luke needed to be put on the national hot seat to finally make some proper changes. I give him credit for figuring it out after being nationally embarrassed.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Staccatos wrote:
To be fair,Walton required some serious criticism to get over his headscratching lineups.

Its better now, but lead to a really (bleep) record to begin this season.



Exactly! Luke needed to be put on the national hot seat to finally make some proper changes. I give him credit for figuring it out after being nationally embarrassed.


You mean you give Lavar credit.
And anyone who doesn't is naive. Right?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject:

Why the (bleep) does Luke have IT guarding Collinsworth instead of Barea???
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject:

Out coached and out classed tonight...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:57 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
Out coached and out classed tonight...


Let's see how the Luke defenders try to excuse tonight
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:58 pm    Post subject:

Luke should be fire just for playing IT down the stretch. Hart should be in for defense and rebound. Omg, why do we have such a stupid coach. God help the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:58 pm    Post subject:

Apart from the disgusting defense.
This is the stretch that lost the game.
Near the 4 min mark in the fourth.

Julius blocked.
IT contested missed 3.
BI blocked.
Kuz steps out of bounds.
Julius offensive foul.

In a no defense, offensive game, you can have empty stretches on offense.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject:

r0663664 wrote:
Luke should be fire just for playing IT down the stretch. Hart should be in for defense and rebound. Omg, why do we have such a stupid coach. God help the Lakers.


Not sure about the firing, but Hart could have been handy.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:02 pm    Post subject:

need to give Luke time to adjust... he's just settled in with his rotation, wass riding on a good win% the past couple of weeks, and then boom, part of his core rotation gets traded...

Luke needs time to adjust.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Apart from the disgusting defense.
This is the stretch that lost the game.
Near the 4 min mark in the fourth.

Julius blocked.
IT contested missed 3.
BI blocked.
Kuz steps out of bounds.
Julius offensive foul.

In a no defense, offensive game, you can have empty stretches on offense.


Yeah that stretch is when the game was lost.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Brewer, kcp, Thomas, kuz, and I think it was zubac.


This happened.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Why did IT play so long tonight? Did he even come out of the game once he subbed in during the third quarter?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Out coached and out classed tonight...


Let's see how the Luke defenders try to excuse tonight


The parade of posterizng dunks by no name Mavs definitely did us in. Embarrassing.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject:

That closing lineup was too dang small.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject:

Laker_Town wrote:
Brewer, kcp, Thomas, kuz, and I think it was zubac.


This happened.


Didn't Zubac play 1 minute?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:09 pm    Post subject:

I don't trust Luke to be able to make adjustments quickly enough for IT. Lue couldn't figure it out. Don't think Luke can the rest of this season.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject:

Drifts wrote:
need to give Luke time to adjust... he's just settled in with his rotation, wass riding on a good win% the past couple of weeks, and then boom, part of his core rotation gets traded...

Luke needs time to adjust.



^^This.^^

As much as I was looking forward to the Lakers continuing their winning streak, when you have a mid-season roster turnover, it's going to mess the chemistry up, a bit. I believe Luke had to give burn to IT, to see what he had in the tank, and have film material to look at, so the coaching staff can find ways to utilize him better, and incorporate him into the team. He'll have to do it over again, once Lonzo comes back.

I, too, would have liked to see Hart close the game. Maybe even Brook, or Frye, to make the Mavs pay for clogging the paint with their bigs. But, this is a whole new learning process for Luke. Plus, those bad plays offensively, and defensive miscues, are on the players. Not the coach.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject:

How Luke is able to convince so many players to not play a lick of defense is beyond me.

So many wide open shooters and clear paths to the basket is crazy.

Ps i don't buy any of this Luke "young coach crap". Either know what you're doing or learn as an assistant. Head coach of a major franchise is not the place to learn on the job and constantly get outcoached.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:13 pm    Post subject:

any post game comments by luke?
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