OFFICIAL 2017-18 FREE AGENCY/TRADES THREAD (JC/Nance Traded to the Cavs for IT/Frye/Cavs 2018 1st, Top 3 Protected)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject:

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Lol people crying about Nance and Clarkson.

Unbelievable. Even in a trade that we unanimously got declared as winners from NBA media who hate all things Lakers, people still complain.


Wait till, tommorow, ESPN will say how we got killed in this trade.
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Clarkson looks the way he's been looking the past few weeks when he got a consistent 6th man role.

Some of ya'll are just NOW acknowledging it cause he isn't wearing a Lakers jersey anymore.


JC was looking like he might be blossoming too. I think we paid too heavy a price in order to keep Jules and sign two max. I don't think PG13 is that good of a player that will make a great impact. Lebron, maybe, he could make the Lakers immediate contender for a few years but seeing as how Cleveland is playing right now, it'd be hard for him to leave Cleveland if they made it the NBA Finals again.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject:

I like how they're closing the game with JC and Nance.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject:

anyone watch the new Showtime Documentary series "The Trade"? That whole NE & Central Ohio area is a drug addiction cesspool....it's pretty sad.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject:

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Lol people crying about Nance and Clarkson.

Unbelievable. Even in a trade that we unanimously got declared as winners from NBA media who hate all things Lakers, people still complain.


coming from the guy that not too long ago had 90%+ of his posts claiming how JC was terrible at basketball
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject:

PG has been very quiet this 2nd half
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject:

I also am fine if we only get PG13... If we get LeBron, of course I won't complain but I think all we need is Paul and a rim protector, maybe another shooter.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject:

CantStopJM wrote:
Lol people crying about Nance and Clarkson.

Unbelievable. Even in a trade that we unanimously got declared as winners from NBA media who hate all things Lakers, people still complain.


Unanimous? Was the poll about this trade 100% in favor of it?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject:

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Since when did Clarkson move the ball like that


Since hes in a team with a presence like lebron who will hold him accountable
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject:

Lakers beat OKC at home also.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject:

lakersfever714 wrote:
MJST wrote:
Clarkson looks the way he's been looking the past few weeks when he got a consistent 6th man role.

Some of ya'll are just NOW acknowledging it cause he isn't wearing a Lakers jersey anymore.


JC was looking like he might be blossoming too. I think we paid too heavy a price in order to keep Jules and sign two max. I don't think PG13 is that good of a player that will make a great impact. Lebron, maybe, he could make the Lakers immediate contender for a few years but seeing as how Cleveland is playing right now, it'd be hard for him to leave Cleveland if they made it the NBA Finals again.


We paid a high price to sign two max and keep Jules? That high price is Nance and Clarkson? So you rather have those two over two MAX FAs? I just want to make sure I understood.

I'm starting to think some of you guys actually like missing the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject:

Itís not rocket science. Role players play better with better players. I bet Lonzo/bi/Kuz would look amazing too alongside lbj/Pg13 too.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject:

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And then you blow entire cap space on Payton/hood/jules? Thereís a reason why teams traded RFAs this year.


So tf what?

So we have a bunch of young 20 year olds all that fit together and about to head into their prime and gives the team a lot of depth going forward and that's a bad thing?

Instead of waiting on a 35M free agent to come take pity on us, how about we BUILD with the young talent coming into their own.

If you could get Rodney Hood for KCP and Elfrid Payton for Ennis and a 2nd round pick, yeah you have to "pay them" but think of it this way.

By the time these "35M come take pity on us" free agents are 30 and the warriors are falling off, we have a squad of 20 year olds just entering their prime and you got something like this .

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
Rodney Hood
Brandon Ingram
Julius Randle
Brook Lopez

Bench:
Elfrid Payton
Jordan Clarkson
Corey Brewer
Kyle Kuzma
Larry Nance Jr, / Ivica Zubac / Thomas Bryant



Rodney Hood is a perfect 2 to fit next to ball, Ingram is coming into his own, Randle is coming into his own. Payton as an OFF THE BENCH POINT GUARD table setter for JC wouldn't be fair lol.


Then you look at the seasons Payton and Hood were having, and think about the Lakers would have gotten Hood and Payton right before they come into their own, for KCP, Tyler Ennis and a 2nd round pick.


Yeah that means "Oh we can't throw money at a max free agent and beg them to join us while we watch them go somewhere else" but tbh I've been sick of that approach that has NOT been working the past 4-5 off-seasons.


Getting Hood and Payton is more like how the Spurs or the Warriors would do it. And tbh, I'd rather build this team THAT way.

Consider where the team is right now and the run they were on, and you add Payton off the bench, and Hood as the starting 2 next to that. We may have a chance at a VERY big improvement over last year and potentially the playoffs.

All THAT to me, means a lot more going into the off-season on a whimper and begging a max free agent to leave their better situation for us and take pity on us imo.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
MJST wrote:
And the fact Elfrid Payton got sent away for a 2nd round pick.


every time the Magic give up on a young player....hurry and get in line because it is almost automatic they will have big time success in their new city.

Then why is Dlo coming off the bench in a cellar dweller like the Nets?
yep, big time success
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject:

With players looking good on other teams, imagine Ingram, Kuzma and Lonzo on other teams?

Kuzma on teams like the Rockets, Raptors, Wolves, 76ers, etc would be unguardable.

Ingram on the Spurs would probably be one of the top NBA players already.

Lonzo on any team would average a near triple double because literally every other team would have a shooting coach.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject:

Good lord. Brevity is the soul of wit.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject:

lakersfever714 wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Lol people crying about Nance and Clarkson.

Unbelievable. Even in a trade that we unanimously got declared as winners from NBA media who hate all things Lakers, people still complain.


Unanimous? Was the poll about this trade 100% in favor of it?


I haven't found an analyst who said we didn't win. In fact, most said we robbed them which clearly that wasn't the case.
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adkindo wrote:
anyone watch the new Showtime Documentary series "The Trade"? That whole NE & Central Ohio area is a drug addiction cesspool....it's pretty sad.


Is it good? I was thinking of watching it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject:

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The Cavs bench is better than the starters.

I feel a little bit better with this trade after we start winning a few games with IT and Frye.


Think about what you just said.
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MJST wants to be the Orlando Magic West.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject:

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lakersfever714 wrote:
MJST wrote:
Clarkson looks the way he's been looking the past few weeks when he got a consistent 6th man role.

Some of ya'll are just NOW acknowledging it cause he isn't wearing a Lakers jersey anymore.


JC was looking like he might be blossoming too. I think we paid too heavy a price in order to keep Jules and sign two max. I don't think PG13 is that good of a player that will make a great impact. Lebron, maybe, he could make the Lakers immediate contender for a few years but seeing as how Cleveland is playing right now, it'd be hard for him to leave Cleveland if they made it the NBA Finals again.


We paid a high price to sign two max and keep Jules? That high price is Nance and Clarkson? So you rather have those two over two MAX FAs? I just want to make sure I understood.

I'm starting to think some of you guys actually like missing the playoffs.


A "chance" at two max. A lot of you guys excited about the trade seem to assume we're going to get two superstars for certain.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject:

CantStopJM wrote:
lakersfever714 wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
Lol people crying about Nance and Clarkson.

Unbelievable. Even in a trade that we unanimously got declared as winners from NBA media who hate all things Lakers, people still complain.


Unanimous? Was the poll about this trade 100% in favor of it?


I haven't found an analyst who said we didn't win. In fact, most said we robbed them which clearly that wasn't the case.


Charles Barkley says otherwise
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject:

to the city of Cleveland and Cav's fans around the globe.....you are welcome, and take care of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject:

Trade was good for both teams but I was never in favor of the 2 max plan.
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