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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:54 pm Post subject: Post TD: Laker 3 point shooting |
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If Thomas and Frye can shoot within range of their career 3P% that's going to help LA's ability to shoot the long ball as a team. Clarkson wasn't bad (32.4% on 4 3FGA) but he also wasn't good. Nance didn't shoot 3's. Here are some details about the roster as it stands now.
Player / 3P% / 3PA
Frye: 41% on 4.5 last season; 39% on 3.1 (career)
Hart: 38.7% on 2.5
Isaiah: 38% on 8.5 last season; 36% on 5.4 (career)
Kuzma: 36.5% on 5.2
Pope: 35% on 5.5
Ingram: 35% on 1.6
Brook: 34% on 4.4
***Needs improvement***
Lonzo: 5.4, 30% (Shot 38% on 5.3 attempts in 10 games in December)
Randle: 0.7, 24%
Frye and Thomas were both below their career 3P% this year, but given their track records I think it's fair to call some of that circumstance.
Teams are going to have to respect the 3 point line against LA more now. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Last 15 games Lakers are 20th at 34.7%
They're not shooting that much better as season average is 33.0%.
But other teams are shooting worse during the last 15 . |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Over the last 5-10 games they have seemed like an elite shooting team. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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We were 29th in January, shooting 32%. In the last three games (February) we've shot 41.5%, so yeah, we've been hot recently. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't feel reliant on Frye or Thomas. Frye is on a major down year. I don't think Thomas is 100%.
If the Lakers took away KCP's shot (selection), they'd be a midpack 3pt team through the past 15 games. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Post TD: Laker 3 point shooting |
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Laker's Fan wrote: | If Thomas and Frye can shoot within range of their career 3P% that's going to help LA's ability to shoot the long ball as a team. Clarkson wasn't bad (32.4% on 4 3FGA) but he also wasn't good. Nance didn't shoot 3's. Here are some details about the roster as it stands now.
Player / 3P% / 3PA
Frye: 41% on 4.5 last season; 39% on 3.1 (career)
Hart: 38.7% on 2.5
Isaiah: 38% on 8.5 last season; 36% on 5.4 (career)
Kuzma: 36.5% on 5.2
Pope: 35% on 5.5
Ingram: 35% on 1.6
Brook: 34% on 4.4
***Needs improvement***
Lonzo: 5.4, 30% (Shot 38% on 5.3 attempts in 10 games in December)
Randle: 0.7, 24%
Frye and Thomas were both below their career 3P% this year, but given their track records I think it's fair to call some of that circumstance.
Teams are going to have to respect the 3 point line against LA more now. |
I'm not sure how much that will matter. Thomas still seems to be recovering from his injury, so I don't expect him to have a rapid transformation back to his career Norms. As far as Frye, I'm not even sure if he's going to get much playing time with us.
And of course, both of them are among the worst offenders at their positions in the league, so any boost they give you on offense they might give away on the defensive side |
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not looking forward to seeing Frye, he's pretty much washed up. I'm holding out hope that Thomas Bryant is a steal. I'd like to see him get some at backup center. If he falls flat on his face, then you can throw Frye out there.
IT's stats this year are horrendous. I'm also expecting little to nothing from him. This trade was all about the 2 max plan. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Prior to the trade LA was 20th in 3FA at about 27.5 while being last in % at just under 33%%.
First game post trade: V. OKC 10-31, 32.26%
Right on their season average % but on more attempts. Thomas and Frye didn't play but Kuzma and Ingram took a combined 12 against combined season averages of 7. Part of that might be explained by replacing a rotation player (Nance) who did not shoot from distance.
Second game: @ DAL 16-34, 47.06%
Thomas, Hart and Ingram took a combined 19 3FA, making 11. The team isn't going to be that hot every night but the number of attempts was higher again (34 of a total 84 recorded FGAs). For reference, on the year Brooklyn averages the second most 3FA per game at 34.2.
I'm pretty sure we're going to start shooting more 3s on a regular basis and hit a higher %. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Six games since the trade:
V OKC 10-31
@ Dallas 16-43
@ New Orleans 10-22
@ Minnesota 7-31
V Dallas 13-33
@ Sacramento 17-38
73-198 (37%) 33 attempts per game
Those figures on an annual basis would put the Lakers 9th in % and 3rd in attempts per game. Once Lonzo gets back and as Thomas gets more comfortable both of those numbers could trend up. We now never have more than one player who doesn't shoot the long ball in the game at one time (usually Randle), a legit drive and kick player (Thomas) to go with two improving ines in Ingram and Lonzo. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:01 am Post subject: |
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It's a little-known fact among NBA analysts and fans that Lonzo is hitting 39.1% of his 3's since mid-December.
Just like Lonzo's numbers, the Lakers' 3 point shooting was so abysmal in November and early December the season average is never going to look good, even though they've been climbing ever since that point. Hart, Ingram, KCP, Kuzma, Ball, Thomas and Lopez are all dangerous from outside if teams choose to go under screens or get lazy on closeouts.
Hot Take NBA analysts and a lot of know-it-all fans are going to insist Lonzo can't shoot and the Lakers are terrible from 3 from now all the way through next October though. |
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:46 am Post subject: |
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They went from being the worst shooting team in the league to the best almost overnight. Crazy turnaround. |
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