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venturalakersfan
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| rogers49 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Magic's fine was just a couple of weeks ago. He must have known about the rule. He essentially he did what Magic did with Giannis. The tampering rule is stupid but he tampered with four players and his fine should be bigger. |
It is not the same as Magic, ignore that all you want. When were the Clippers fined for tampering and told not to talk about players from other teams? Because that is what happened with Magic. Again, ignore that and keep up the incessant whining. |
Please explain how what he said was any different than what Magic said about Giannis? |
Listen to the Silver interview, it has nothing to do with what Magic said and everything about being a 3 time repeat offender. |
Your thesis is completely devoid of any legal ground. |
As your comment is void of even a basic understanding of NBA rules. The commissioner’s office is responsible for issuing penalties for teams and their personnel. They issue fines to players, FO personnel and ownership. What they decide is the NBA law.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | rogers49 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Magic's fine was just a couple of weeks ago. He must have known about the rule. He essentially he did what Magic did with Giannis. The tampering rule is stupid but he tampered with four players and his fine should be bigger. |
It is not the same as Magic, ignore that all you want. When were the Clippers fined for tampering and told not to talk about players from other teams? Because that is what happened with Magic. Again, ignore that and keep up the incessant whining. |
Please explain how what he said was any different than what Magic said about Giannis? |
Listen to the Silver interview, it has nothing to do with what Magic said and everything about being a 3 time repeat offender. |
Your thesis is completely devoid of any legal ground. |
As your comment is void of even a basic understanding of NBA rules. The commissioner’s office is responsible for issuing penalties for teams and their personnel. They issue fines to players, FO personnel and ownership. What they decide is the NBA law. |
Ok that is pretty hilarious someone pulled the “legal ground” argument.
“Wahhh he has no legal basis for fining a player for a technical foul”.
Silver said himself that context is everything and his decision is clearly a subjective one based on multiple factors. Magic has a history of tampering even beyond his current role and that was one of the factors in the subjective decision.
Not rocket science. |
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| ToastedMuffins wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | He should get fined. Lakers didn't get a warning. They got fined the first time. |
Sarcasm, I hope.
Unless you're overlooking both the Jimmy Kimmel interview and the time when the Lakers legitimately tampered earlier last year. Lakers were already on strike 3 for the Giannis fine. |
You are right. They didn't get fined for the Kimmel thing, only warned. I had thought they got fined for that as well.
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I don’t see why it is so hard to understand. Silver said don’t do it, Magic did it and was given a slap on the wrist. It is no big deal, no deal at all. We didn’t lose picks so there was no harm to our future. As far as we know Silver didn’t go to the Clippers and tell them the same thing that he told the Lakers. And minus strike 1 and strike 2, I doubt anyone has an issue with the recent Magic comments.
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The Lakers' double (not so) secret probation notwithstanding, Magic should be held to a higher standard; he is our President of Basketball Operations while Logo is a consultant with the lowly Clips. If the Clippers end up with a superstar (i.e. Love), it will be because of a salary dump by a rebuilding team desperate to get under the cap, not FA signing.
Although the tampering rules state any employee may be charged with tampering for trying to entice or persuade players to sign, there is a difference between being asked about a team in an interview and responding with an evaluation of said team, than what Magic said on TV about PG. Those comments just fuel the tinfoil hat crew on YouTube. |
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| Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote: | The Lakers' double (not so) secret probation notwithstanding, Magic should be held to a higher standard; he is our President of Basketball Operations while Logo is a consultant with the lowly Clips. If the Clippers end up with a superstar (i.e. Love), it will be because of a salary dump by a rebuilding team desperate to get under the cap, not FA signing.
Although the tampering rules state any employee may be charged with tampering for trying to entice or persuade players to sign, there is a difference between being asked about a team in an interview and responding with an evaluation of said team, than what Magic said on TV about PG. Those comments just fuel the tinfoil hat crew on YouTube. |
Magic/PG/Kimmel is so 3 fines ago. Use the most recent BS fine on Magic for the Giannis talk as an example. |
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The most recent fine on Magic was patently absurd. The previous fine money was well earned.
Since West was talking about players he had worked with/acquired while with GS, my guess is he gets off with nothing worse than a warning from Adam Silver, who one week ago presented him with an NBA lifetime achievement award. |
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The only time Magic "tampered" was when he did the infamous wink. The next time getting fined for talking tonPG13's agent is absolute BS. Same agent as one of your own players means you're ALLOWED to be in contact with them. Unless they magic or Rob on a wire talking PG specifics it should have never happened. And the Gianni's comment is absolute BS.
Like i said, Jerry West has history with KD and is well known to have a huge voice in Kevin's ear. This alone should mean something. |
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| People are furious like they paid that fine with their own money Slaps on the wrist aren't going to stop Magic from tampering and it's not going to result in any real punishment that stops the Lakers from signing anyone. Who Cares? It's just an Involuntary donation to NBA charities. |
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| Treble Clef wrote: | | People are furious like they paid that fine with their own money Slaps on the wrist aren't going to stop Magic from tampering and it's not going to result in any real punishment that stops the Lakers from signing anyone. Who Cares? It's just an Involuntary donation to NBA charities. |
Lol this. No need to get all upset. |
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Will Pop be warned for this tampering?
Gregg Popovich on LeBron James: "He's been a brilliant example for millions of kids. ... It's kind of like the Black Panther movie. How cool is that for kids to see and have that superhero? LeBron's been that for a long time."
Clearly being overly complimentary trying to recruit Lebron to come to the Spurs next year. |
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| ducasse2 wrote: | Will Pop be warned for this tampering?
Gregg Popovich on LeBron James: "He's been a brilliant example for millions of kids. ... It's kind of like the Black Panther movie. How cool is that for kids to see and have that superhero? LeBron's been that for a long time."
Clearly being overly complimentary trying to recruit Lebron to come to the Spurs next year. |
If Magic says the same, is it a fine?
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Magic's fine was West's and everyone else's warning. You can't plead ignorance when your next door neighbor just got busted in plain view. What's to stop everyone from blatantly tampering if you're allowed one get out of jail free card? It's only fair that West should be fined for the exact same action as Magic.
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tampering is so dumb
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | ducasse2 wrote: | Will Pop be warned for this tampering?
Gregg Popovich on LeBron James: "He's been a brilliant example for millions of kids. ... It's kind of like the Black Panther movie. How cool is that for kids to see and have that superhero? LeBron's been that for a long time."
Clearly being overly complimentary trying to recruit Lebron to come to the Spurs next year. |
If Magic says the same, is it a fine? |
Probably since he was told to stop talking about other team’s players.
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The problem using ‘context’ or subjective measure is that the league commissioner can’t (by definition) be consistent (since the rule is not objectively applied)
Sixers - trust the process
Suns - rebuilding
Mavs - we’re tanking
If using context as the rule application, all those teams committed the same offense but not all those teams get punished. Same thing with the player tampering rule |
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How about the Lakers pay all tampering fines out of the revenue sharing that the Lakers pay into the league every year for being one of the most marketable and profitable teams?
This would allow the Lakers another hundred million dollars in tampering left to do. |
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| Staccatos wrote: | How about the Lakers pay all tampering fines out of the revenue sharing that the Lakers pay into the league every year for being one of the most marketable and profitable teams?
This would allow the Lakers another hundred million dollars in tampering left to do. |
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