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h2omike Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if Zubac is in the Lakers plans for next year? Will he get actual minutes or more of what we saw before the all star break? |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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h2omike wrote: | I wonder if Zubac is in the Lakers plans for next year? Will he get actual minutes or more of what we saw before the all star break? |
Depends. How much capspace can he pull? |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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parsons777 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | defense wrote: | He didn't get any significant minutes early in the season. Where are you guys getting this stuff from? Are you talking about garbage time? |
From the fact that he couldn’t earn significant minutes. |
In the same way JR could not earn significant minutes earlier in the season? JR got to play after a team meeting and Luke changing his mind about his PT. Zu is getting to play after Larry being traded, so Maginka changing Luke's mind for him. How much of this is earning PT and how much Luke reversing himself? |
Correct. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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FreakofNature Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | parsons777 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | defense wrote: | He didn't get any significant minutes early in the season. Where are you guys getting this stuff from? Are you talking about garbage time? |
From the fact that he couldn’t earn significant minutes. |
In the same way JR could not earn significant minutes earlier in the season? JR got to play after a team meeting and Luke changing his mind about his PT. Zu is getting to play after Larry being traded, so Maginka changing Luke's mind for him. How much of this is earning PT and how much Luke reversing himself? |
Correct. |
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DocK36 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | parsons777 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | defense wrote: | He didn't get any significant minutes early in the season. Where are you guys getting this stuff from? Are you talking about garbage time? |
From the fact that he couldn’t earn significant minutes. |
In the same way JR could not earn significant minutes earlier in the season? JR got to play after a team meeting and Luke changing his mind about his PT. Zu is getting to play after Larry being traded, so Maginka changing Luke's mind for him. How much of this is earning PT and how much Luke reversing himself? |
Correct. | _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime." |
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durden-tyler Star Player
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Still a big liability defensively IMO, I don't see any progress... |
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FreakofNature Star Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Since getting minutes in the rotation for the last 4 games: ZU is at (16.5MPG)/11.8PPG/5RPG/ on 20 for 25 FG's (80%)... |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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durden-tyler wrote: | Still a big liability defensively IMO, I don't see any progress... |
This pace seems too much for him. Seems winded. |
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LAkers 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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durden-tyler wrote: | Still a big liability defensively IMO, I don't see any progress... |
This. Zubac's potential role with this team will be whether he can be a player for them on the defensive end. He's got some decent offensive tools to work with, but defense and rebounding need to greatly improve. He's so young though that it may take quite a while for him to grow into his role. |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Too slow. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | defense wrote: | He didn't get any significant minutes early in the season. Where are you guys getting this stuff from? Are you talking about garbage time? |
From the fact that he couldn’t earn significant minutes. |
How could he earn minutes, if he didn't get any minutes?
(lol) _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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trablos Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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unleasHell wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | defense wrote: | He didn't get any significant minutes early in the season. Where are you guys getting this stuff from? Are you talking about garbage time? |
From the fact that he couldn’t earn significant minutes. |
How could he earn minutes, if he didn't get any minutes?
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The same way college grads get experience by getting rejected from jobs for lack of experience |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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trablos wrote: | unleasHell wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | defense wrote: | He didn't get any significant minutes early in the season. Where are you guys getting this stuff from? Are you talking about garbage time? |
From the fact that he couldn’t earn significant minutes. |
How could he earn minutes, if he didn't get any minutes?
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The same way college grads get experience by getting rejected from jobs for lack of experience |
And what way is that? _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I really liked his passing and rim protection tonight. Even with the lower scoring output, I think this was his second best game (behind the Minnesota game) since he's been re-inserted into the lineup. |
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Zupac lives _________________ Kobe |
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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah Zu!!!!!! |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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unleasHell wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | defense wrote: | He didn't get any significant minutes early in the season. Where are you guys getting this stuff from? Are you talking about garbage time? |
From the fact that he couldn’t earn significant minutes. |
How could he earn minutes, if he didn't get any minutes?
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Like lots of players earn minutes, in practice. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Zubac has looked like dog crap this month. He doesn't look like an NBA player at all - more like the big. tall kid the coaches found on the farm and they decided to try and make him into a basketball player. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Dr. Laker wrote: | Zubac has looked like dog crap this month. He doesn't look like an NBA player at all - more like the big. tall kid the coaches found on the farm and they decided to try and make him into a basketball player. |
That’s exactly what I would think if I had never seen him play last year. For a young player, especially a big, his feel for the game was impressive last year. But this year he looks like he just discovered the sport of basketball last week. He’s virtually a big’s version of Ennis. There’s nothing you can say he does well. Nothing. He has no presence on the floor aside from producing frustration.
It was pretty fun when he first got here. Seemed like he had a lot of promise and was a great interviewer. It was so cool that he grew up a die hard Laker fan and that his dream of playing for them had come true. But this is his second year and he’s shown no improvement in anything. Worse than that, he completely regressed compared to last year. I think he wants it. He just doesn’t have it. He’s not an NBA player. When the Lakers don’t bring him back he’ll likely be out of the league, along with Ennis. Oh well. Time to move on _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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He used to have so many offensive moves for a young big but he hasn't shown any of it this year except for the Minnesota game. I think the Lakers have given up on him. |
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TheGoat1 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know what happened to Zubac. Somewhere between the end of last season and Summer League he forgot how to play basketball in the NBA. He had a very promising rookie year. He used to kill it with that floater on the pick and roll and was a presence inside with his shot blocking.
While he was always a project, he seemed ahead of the curve ala Bynum in his 2nd year. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Not really like we're feeding the ball into him either. Would like to see him get the kind of touches Lopez gets when he's in tbh. But I don't think they see him as an offensive option despite his moves. He and IT have a good pick and roll game going, would like to see the Lakers go back to that. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Not really like we're feeding the ball into him either. Would like to see him get the kind of touches Lopez gets when he's in tbh. But I don't think they see him as an offensive option despite his moves. He and IT have a good pick and roll game going, would like to see the Lakers go back to that. |
This doesn’t even come down to how often he’s getting the ball. He’s awful at the most basic things that are asked of bigs in today’s game. He lacks the necessary skills for him to survive in the league. He can’t defend screen roll, protect the rim consistently, rebound, nothing. He can barely run the floor. Even his reflexes are slow. If the best thing he has the potential of doing well is something that the league has gone away from anyways, that also says a lot. You’re seeing what you want to see if you deny all of this. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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He looks like a headless chicken |
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CalisFinest Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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He doesn't deserve any minutes tbh. He's just too slow for the game. Bryant needs to be getting these minutes. |
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