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babyskyhook Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Justice Winslow just shot up Nate Duncan's NBA player ranking list.
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Long term instead of short term fellas, let the kids recover |
Take his time like what Lonzo did. I enjoyed the wins but I rather have them be healthy and take chances when it matters. |
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RG73 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | epak wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | When it was Kobe I'd always assume he'd play... with BI and Zo, I simply assume they will play at the latest possible date.
Still love both of them but they are new school and skinny. |
To be fair, Kobe was not human. |
I get that Kobe went too far... but I've never been proven wrong in my mind when I guessed they'd come back later than expected.
I'm old school... I've worked years where I'd work 363 days and take off only Christmas and Thanksgiving. The only reason I post so much right now is because I'm taking care of my dad.
Kids these days seem to have less tolerance for adversity. |
While the stuff of legends, Kobe's insanity was detrimental both to himself and sometimes to the team. How many times did we both marvel at him playing with broken fingers and then grimace when he'd have a terrible shooting night because of it?
Teams and players now realize that old school mentality doesn't do anyone any favors. Rushing back for inconsequential games can lead to recurring injuries, or long term damage. Playoffs? Sure, pull out the heroics. Regular season? Nah, rest the guy and let him heal properly.
These decisions are made with better training science, better rehab science, and better analytics than the old days of Vitti just slapping some tape on it and throwing a guy back out there. And I'm guessing that science all points in the direction of giving a guy a few extra weeks of recuperation probably leads to him more effective for a longer period of time in his career than rushing it and playing with a partially healed injury. |
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Fracture Star Player
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 9318 Location: Planet Terror
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Winslow you bum! |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Re-watched the foul by Winslow. Not dirty but definitely reckless. He jumped right at Ingram's body at full speed knowing there would be a violent collision. It's the type of play that doesn't warrant a suspension but a note to file in terms of his history in the event there are future plays of a reckless nature. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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The guy jumped into Ingram and put his knee right into him.. It was clearly dirty. How many times have any of you seen a defensive player put a knee into the offensive player while in the air? It's not a natural movement.. It is however natural for an offensive player to raise his knee for lift while going for a layup or dunk. |
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LakerLand247 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Purp 32 wrote: | He'll probably be out a couple weeks. |
Doubtful, we aren’t dealing with Gary Vitti |
Did someone mention Voodoo-Vitti? |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think the injury is anyone's fault and I don't know if Winslow's knee caused it more than just the landing and all that. Stuff like that just happens. Like I don't think Brandon is dirty but his elbows and knees have caught a bunch of guys this year. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Again.. my question is.. Is it natural for a defensive player to go into an offensive player with his knee? It isn't. Winslow was already in the air when he put his knee out. So he wasn't using it to generate lift. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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12 wrote: | (bleep) winslow!! |
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ice_cold Starting Rotation
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Purp 32 wrote: | He'll probably be out a couple weeks. |
I would guess 10+ days. |
I'm going to guess more than a week as well, depends on what grade strain it is. He was already hurting a bit in the groin before Richard Head Winslow kneed him. Wonder if that was in the scrot.. I mean scouting report? |
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silkwilkes Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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If he's cleared next week when he visits the doctor, probably will need 2-3 days of practice... so 10 days sounds about right. _________________ "He may say it's not you, it's him.... but it's really you." |
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JamezAmp Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Glad its only a strain. Just gotta rest and not push too much |
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oldschool32 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I watched some of the Hawks game a 2nd time. Ingram was already favoring that area during that game. The Winslow incident may have just made the situation worse. Not sure if he commented on if there was any pre-existing pain there or not??? _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Please rest him.
I mean we have amazing SF depth.
Um, Travis Wear? Kuz?
(bring Deng on please). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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oldschool32 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Please rest him.
I mean we have amazing SF depth.
Um, Travis Wear? Kuz?
(bring Deng on please). |
I don't know if the reason Deng hasn't been used has been uncovered yet, but it just amazes me that even when they are short handed, they wont use Deng...even with the salary he is pulling in. I wonder if he actually has something to do with it, because they gladly played Brewer. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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oldschool32 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Please rest him.
I mean we have amazing SF depth.
Um, Travis Wear? Kuz?
(bring Deng on please). |
I don't know if the reason Deng hasn't been used has been uncovered yet, but it just amazes me that even when they are short handed, they wont use Deng...even with the salary he is pulling in. I wonder if he actually has something to do with it, because they gladly played Brewer. |
He got that Jim Buss stank on him apparently.
Swallow the pride. Who cares if he's making 18m. We need bodies at SF right now. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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LAkers 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | oldschool32 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Please rest him.
I mean we have amazing SF depth.
Um, Travis Wear? Kuz?
(bring Deng on please). |
I don't know if the reason Deng hasn't been used has been uncovered yet, but it just amazes me that even when they are short handed, they wont use Deng...even with the salary he is pulling in. I wonder if he actually has something to do with it, because they gladly played Brewer. |
He got that Jim Buss stank on him apparently.
Swallow the pride. Who cares if he's making 18m. We need bodies at SF right now. |
Agree. Travis Wear played well at the 3 near the end of the SA game, but matchup wise long-term he's not gonna be able to handle that position. He's never really played a 3 before. They can't make Ennis like mistakes right now. Play Deng in short spurts to try to see if he's got his legs under him and is in game shape. Wear and Kuzma, natural 4s forced to play 3s, is danger zone. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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LAkers 4 Life wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | oldschool32 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Please rest him.
I mean we have amazing SF depth.
Um, Travis Wear? Kuz?
(bring Deng on please). |
I don't know if the reason Deng hasn't been used has been uncovered yet, but it just amazes me that even when they are short handed, they wont use Deng...even with the salary he is pulling in. I wonder if he actually has something to do with it, because they gladly played Brewer. |
He got that Jim Buss stank on him apparently.
Swallow the pride. Who cares if he's making 18m. We need bodies at SF right now. |
Agree. Travis Wear played well at the 3 near the end of the SA game, but matchup wise long-term he's not gonna be able to handle that position. He's never really played a 3 before. They can't make Ennis like mistakes right now. Play Deng in short spurts to try to see if he's got his legs under him and is in game shape. Wear and Kuzma, natural 4s forced to play 3s, is danger zone. |
Exactly how I see it.
It's not impossible Travis Wear could prove us wrong with some amazing defense vs opposing 3's, but that would mean we got ridiculously lucky. |
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LAkers 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | LAkers 4 Life wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | oldschool32 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Please rest him.
I mean we have amazing SF depth.
Um, Travis Wear? Kuz?
(bring Deng on please). |
I don't know if the reason Deng hasn't been used has been uncovered yet, but it just amazes me that even when they are short handed, they wont use Deng...even with the salary he is pulling in. I wonder if he actually has something to do with it, because they gladly played Brewer. |
He got that Jim Buss stank on him apparently.
Swallow the pride. Who cares if he's making 18m. We need bodies at SF right now. |
Agree. Travis Wear played well at the 3 near the end of the SA game, but matchup wise long-term he's not gonna be able to handle that position. He's never really played a 3 before. They can't make Ennis like mistakes right now. Play Deng in short spurts to try to see if he's got his legs under him and is in game shape. Wear and Kuzma, natural 4s forced to play 3s, is danger zone. |
Exactly how I see it.
It's not impossible Travis Wear could prove us wrong with some amazing defense vs opposing 3's, but that would mean we got ridiculously lucky. |
It certainly helped Wear that he was matched up against Rudy Gay, who was coming off a torn Achilles tendon last season and a heel injury this season. A slower, older 3 playing more like a 4 suits Wear. If Harkless is still out, maybe the Lakers can get away with it at the 3 again, but it's still a very tall order to ask of Kuzma and Wear to be productive at an unfamiliar position. This time against younger, healthier 3s. |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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oldschool32 wrote: | I watched some of the Hawks game a 2nd time. Ingram was already favoring that area during that game. The Winslow incident may have just made the situation worse. Not sure if he commented on if there was any pre-existing pain there or not??? |
He cramped that game |
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oldschool32 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | oldschool32 wrote: | I watched some of the Hawks game a 2nd time. Ingram was already favoring that area during that game. The Winslow incident may have just made the situation worse. Not sure if he commented on if there was any pre-existing pain there or not??? |
He cramped that game |
Was that what it was? I noticed him still grabbing in that area and walking gingerly on it probably somewhere around the 3rd quarter. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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If he misses the two Denver games, it might be the final nail in the coffin.
I'll still hope for a miracle, but the timing is terrible. |
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waterman40 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Let Deng play 48 minutes a game at SF! jk _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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