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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject:

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Saw the video of him in the press conference. I felt Mr. Sloan was about to shed a tear. Great coach. He'll be miss in the NBA.



My favorite coach outside of Phil and Riles.


Always liked Sloan and Pop.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject:

Unless they get a good coach, I could see the Jazz going the way of the Grizzlies or T'Wolves, both small market franchises without anything attractive going for it. What Sloan brought to the franchise was stability, now they have neither.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:00 am    Post subject:

One source said Sloan had become tired of Williams “blaming everything on everyone else.”

Just pathetic... man up you spoiled baby.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:07 am    Post subject:

1 losing season in 23 years. That's pretty amazing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:28 am    Post subject:

Don't know if this is all on Deron or not. I know Deron is a great player, but he is not a GOAT type or even a guy you are sure can lead you to rings.

Call me crazy, but I would have gone with Coach Sloan over Deron any day of the week.

If you moved Deron right now you would get a ton of value.

Without Sloan, Utah will lack the thing that always made them a tough team. Utah made a mistake. Say what you want about their ex loud mouth owner Miller, but I doubt if he were alive he would have let this happen.

I sometimes worry about the Lakers too once Dr. Buss is gone.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:39 am    Post subject:

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I sometimes worry about the Lakers too once Dr. Buss is gone.


Come on man, you've got this and this waiting in the wings. What could possibly go wrong?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject:

Anyone hear the interview with Carl Malone during the Suns vs Jazz game? He basically said, the Sloan that he knows would never quit or give up, for him to leave like he did, there's something bigger happening.

My absolutely guess is that, the players disrespected Sloan, he wanted to punish them, owner did not allow it. He basically thought, 23 years as a coach here and no body is backing me up? Im out of here.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject:

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Don't know if this is all on Deron or not. I know Deron is a great player, but he is not a GOAT type or even a guy you are sure can lead you to rings.

Call me crazy, but I would have gone with Coach Sloan over Deron any day of the week.

If you moved Deron right now you would get a ton of value.

Without Sloan, Utah will lack the thing that always made them a tough team. Utah made a mistake. Say what you want about their ex loud mouth owner Miller, but I doubt if he were alive he would have let this happen.

I sometimes worry about the Lakers too once Dr. Buss is gone.


Interesting post.....

So if I understand you correctly, since Deron is not a GOAT type player you support coach Sloan, but when Kobe was a FA and demanded that the Lakers get rid of Phil and trade Shaq prior to resigning with the team that's perfectly fine since he's a GOAT type guy.

Wolf, I didn't know you're a man of such deep seeded convictions.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:50 am    Post subject:

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Anyone hear the interview with Carl Malone during the Suns vs Jazz game? He basically said, the Sloan that he knows would never quit or give up, for him to leave like he did, there's something bigger happening.

My absolutely guess is that, the players disrespected Sloan, he wanted to punish them, owner did not allow it. He basically thought, 23 years as a coach here and no body is backing me up? Im out of here.


I'm guessing the Jazz in the front office are probably in a learning curve. Since Larry Miller passed away, his son is probably learning on the job and this is one of the things they might have bungled. Jerry Sloan probably realized that things are probably gonna be different from now on, and considering he is approaching 70 pretty soon, he had enough and called it a day.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject:

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wolfpaclaker wrote:
Don't know if this is all on Deron or not. I know Deron is a great player, but he is not a GOAT type or even a guy you are sure can lead you to rings.

Call me crazy, but I would have gone with Coach Sloan over Deron any day of the week.

If you moved Deron right now you would get a ton of value.

Without Sloan, Utah will lack the thing that always made them a tough team. Utah made a mistake. Say what you want about their ex loud mouth owner Miller, but I doubt if he were alive he would have let this happen.

I sometimes worry about the Lakers too once Dr. Buss is gone.


Interesting post.....

So if I understand you correctly, since Deron is not a GOAT type player you support coach Sloan, but when Kobe was a FA and demanded that the Lakers get rid of Phil and trade Shaq prior to resigning with the team that's perfectly fine since he's a GOAT type guy.

Wolf, I didn't know you're a man of such deep seeded convictions.

I'm referring to a few situations. It was well documented that Magic ran out his first NBA coach. Shaq? He ran out a couple. Kobe may have not directly ran out Phil but he certainly didn't help things back then. The difference in all those situations is that those guys are all-time greats and you couldn't let them go. Lebron has also ran out a coach or two. The level of player those guys are, it's impossible not to take their side.

Also, I think Sloan has a standing none of those coaches had with their teams at the time. Sloan is what Utah represents. If there were any coach who had a NCAA standing with his team, it was Sloan. The Jazz reflected his personality. Through and through.

For this to happen to Sloan is surprising. I don't blame Deron, I blame Utah management. They sat back and let this happen. I would never turn my back and support to Sloan. If he resigned, I'd just not accept it. There is clearly more to this than is being told. If you ask me I'd guess that Utah management wanted Sloan to leave knowing that it may cost them Deron down the road.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:54 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
Clutch44 wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
Don't know if this is all on Deron or not. I know Deron is a great player, but he is not a GOAT type or even a guy you are sure can lead you to rings.

Call me crazy, but I would have gone with Coach Sloan over Deron any day of the week.

If you moved Deron right now you would get a ton of value.

Without Sloan, Utah will lack the thing that always made them a tough team. Utah made a mistake. Say what you want about their ex loud mouth owner Miller, but I doubt if he were alive he would have let this happen.

I sometimes worry about the Lakers too once Dr. Buss is gone.


Interesting post.....

So if I understand you correctly, since Deron is not a GOAT type player you support coach Sloan, but when Kobe was a FA and demanded that the Lakers get rid of Phil and trade Shaq prior to resigning with the team that's perfectly fine since he's a GOAT type guy.

Wolf, I didn't know you're a man of such deep seeded convictions.

I'm referring to a few situations. It was well documented that Magic ran out his first NBA coach. Shaq? He ran out a couple. Kobe may have not directly ran out Phil but he certainly didn't help things back then. The difference in all those situations is that those guys are all-time greats and you couldn't let them go. Lebron has also ran out a coach or two. The level of player those guys are, it's impossible not to take their side.

Also, I think Sloan has a standing none of those coaches had with their teams at the time. Sloan is what Utah represents. If there were any coach who had a NCAA standing with his team, it was Sloan. The Jazz reflected his personality. Through and through.

For this to happen to Sloan is surprising. I don't blame Deron, I blame Utah management. They sat back and let this happen. I would never turn my back and support to Sloan. If he resigned, I'd just not accept it. There is clearly more to this than is being told. If you ask me I'd guess that Utah management wanted Sloan to leave knowing that it may cost them Deron down the road.


I agree, and would go further and say that it's also likely that they might have ignored his concerns about players and respect.

For Sloan to "resign" it must have been seriously bad conversation with management and owners. The sad part in all of this? Just like other superstars, changing the coach wont change their mind about leaving.

Following similar trends, there is a good chance Deron Williams will be gone. If not this season it will be next season.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject:

kobe1kanobe wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
Clutch44 wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
Don't know if this is all on Deron or not. I know Deron is a great player, but he is not a GOAT type or even a guy you are sure can lead you to rings.

Call me crazy, but I would have gone with Coach Sloan over Deron any day of the week.

If you moved Deron right now you would get a ton of value.

Without Sloan, Utah will lack the thing that always made them a tough team. Utah made a mistake. Say what you want about their ex loud mouth owner Miller, but I doubt if he were alive he would have let this happen.

I sometimes worry about the Lakers too once Dr. Buss is gone.


Interesting post.....

So if I understand you correctly, since Deron is not a GOAT type player you support coach Sloan, but when Kobe was a FA and demanded that the Lakers get rid of Phil and trade Shaq prior to resigning with the team that's perfectly fine since he's a GOAT type guy.

Wolf, I didn't know you're a man of such deep seeded convictions.

I'm referring to a few situations. It was well documented that Magic ran out his first NBA coach. Shaq? He ran out a couple. Kobe may have not directly ran out Phil but he certainly didn't help things back then. The difference in all those situations is that those guys are all-time greats and you couldn't let them go. Lebron has also ran out a coach or two. The level of player those guys are, it's impossible not to take their side.

Also, I think Sloan has a standing none of those coaches had with their teams at the time. Sloan is what Utah represents. If there were any coach who had a NCAA standing with his team, it was Sloan. The Jazz reflected his personality. Through and through.

For this to happen to Sloan is surprising. I don't blame Deron, I blame Utah management. They sat back and let this happen. I would never turn my back and support to Sloan. If he resigned, I'd just not accept it. There is clearly more to this than is being told. If you ask me I'd guess that Utah management wanted Sloan to leave knowing that it may cost them Deron down the road.


I agree, and would go further and say that it's also likely that they might have ignored his concerns about players and respect.

For Sloan to "resign" it must have been seriously bad conversation with management and owners. The sad part in all of this? Just like other superstars, changing the coach wont change their mind about leaving.

Following similar trends, there is a good chance Deron Williams will be gone. If not this season it will be next season.




I can't help but think that if Larry Miller was still around these guys could have worked something out.

No John Stockton
No Karl Malone
No Jerry Sloan
No Larry Miller

This just isn't the same Jazz franchise that I loved to hate.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject:

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/04/08/raja-bell-tells-his-version-of-what-happened-night-jerry-sloan-quit-in-utah/

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Raja Bell tells his version of what happened night Jerry Sloan quit in Utah

It is the stuff of legend in Utah. Well, Sloan was already a legend there having coached the team for 22 seasons, through the John Stockton/Karl Malone years to two NBA Finals. He was a no-nonsense, intense, physical player and for a couple of decades his teams had followed in his footsteps.

The night Sloan quit in the middle of the season on Feb. 9, 2011 — having finally decided he was too old for this s*** with Deron Williams — is also of legend.

Veteran guard Raja Bell was on that team and recently told his version of the story.

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This followed reasonably closely to owner Greg Miller’s version of events.

Williams was a strong-willed player, something that was true throughout his career (let’s just say he was not the most popular player in any locker room he was in). Sloan had a very specific style and way he wanted the team to play, one that had worked for decades, but Williams was not a fan. It cramped his style. Williams continually defied Sloan and changed plays on him, the two had clashed many times before, but on that February night Sloan finally had enough. Sloan quit, Miller convinced him to sleep on it, but the next morning Sloan stuck with his plan and walked away from the team.

Two weeks later, Williams was traded to the New Jersey Nets.

It has taken until recent years for the Jazz to put something together that makes them a threat again — it required Quin Snyder’s coaching, the development of Rudy Gobert into a defensive force (and one of the game’s top centers), and, this season, the emergence of Donovan Mitchell to make up for Gordon Hayward bolting town. The Jazz are there now.

But they will not forget THAT night.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:15 am    Post subject:

Here is a link to Raja Bell’s account:

Raja Bell account
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:06 pm    Post subject:

His ego got too big. Never been the same outside of Utah. DW vs CP3 used to be a debate around here with many taking Deron because he used to give CP3 the business in their match-ups. But I was never one of those who picked Deron. He lacked CP3's mid-range game.
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