How about the Lakers don't undersell him, and pay him what he deserves and then they don't have to worry about all that.
Julius's cap hold that first year is going to count against the cap only 12.4M which means no matter what the Lakers pay him, THIS off-season it only counts 12.4M against the cap. The only way it wouldn't is if they paid him less than 12.4M and if they even tried to lowball him that badly, they don't deserve him. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Julius's cap hold that first year is going to count against the cap only 12.4M which means no matter what the Lakers pay him, THIS off-season it only counts 12.4M against the cap. The only way it wouldn't is if they paid us less than 12.4M and if they even tried to lowball us that badly, they don't deserve us.
After all the hard work you put this year into making us believers, I think the bolded is appropriate.
FG% = 55.8% (#1 in the NBA for players with min. 750 attempts, 10th overall in NBA for qualified players)
82 Games (Played every game)
1323 pts (Lead Lakers)
16.1 ppg (T-1 Lakers)
8.0 rebs (Lead Lakers)
Lead Lakers in FTA and Free throws made _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
FG% = 55.8% (#1 in the NBA for players with min. 750 attempts, 10th overall in NBA for qualified players)
82 Games (Played every game)
1323 pts (Lead Lakers)
16.1 ppg (T-1 Lakers)
8.0 rebs (Lead Lakers)
Lead Lakers in FTA and Free throws made
There you go. Speaks for itself. I think we'll give him a multi year deal starting at the $15 million range.
FG% = 55.8% (#1 in the NBA for players with min. 750 attempts, 10th overall in NBA for qualified players)
82 Games (Played every game)
1323 pts (Lead Lakers)
16.1 ppg (T-1 Lakers)
8.0 rebs (Lead Lakers)
Lead Lakers in FTA and Free throws made
There you go. Speaks for itself. I think we'll give him a multi year deal starting at the $15 million range.
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 10015 Location: Los Angeles/ Alhambra, CA
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:10 pm Post subject:
King Randle wrote:
MJST wrote:
Julius Randle this season
FG% = 55.8% (#1 in the NBA for players with min. 750 attempts, 10th overall in NBA for qualified players)
82 Games (Played every game)
1323 pts (Lead Lakers)
16.1 ppg (T-1 Lakers)
8.0 rebs (Lead Lakers)
Lead Lakers in FTA and Free throws made
There you go. Speaks for itself. I think we'll give him a multi year deal starting at the $15 million range.
FG% = 55.8% (#1 in the NBA for players with min. 750 attempts, 10th overall in NBA for qualified players)
82 Games (Played every game)
1323 pts (Lead Lakers)
16.1 ppg (T-1 Lakers)
8.0 rebs (Lead Lakers)
Lead Lakers in FTA and Free throws made
There you go. Speaks for itself. I think we'll give him a multi year deal starting at the $15 million range.
FG% = 55.8% (#1 in the NBA for players with min. 750 attempts, 10th overall in NBA for qualified players)
82 Games (Played every game)
1323 pts (Lead Lakers)
16.1 ppg (T-1 Lakers)
8.0 rebs (Lead Lakers)
Lead Lakers in FTA and Free throws made
There you go. Speaks for itself. I think we'll give him a multi year deal starting at the $15 million range.
If we get two maxs + Randle this offseason then I'd rather front load as much as possible.
If we get one + Randle, one user pointed out the Lakers could offer him a deal where his second year is the lowest pay, that way we have money for another max in 2019.
How about the Lakers don't undersell him, and pay him what he deserves and then they don't have to worry about all that.
Julius's cap hold that first year is going to count against the cap only 12.4M which means no matter what the Lakers pay him, THIS off-season it only counts 12.4M against the cap. The only way it wouldn't is if they paid him less than 12.4M and if they even tried to lowball him that badly, they don't deserve him.
How about the Lakers don't undersell him, and pay him what he deserves and then they don't have to worry about all that.
Julius's cap hold that first year is going to count against the cap only 12.4M which means no matter what the Lakers pay him, THIS off-season it only counts 12.4M against the cap. The only way it wouldn't is if they paid him less than 12.4M and if they even tried to lowball him that badly, they don't deserve him.
That's not true. His caphold will be whatever his first year starting salary will be. If he gets a contract paying him 15 million in his first season, then that's his caphold.
How about the Lakers don't undersell him, and pay him what he deserves and then they don't have to worry about all that.
Julius's cap hold that first year is going to count against the cap only 12.4M which means no matter what the Lakers pay him, THIS off-season it only counts 12.4M against the cap. The only way it wouldn't is if they paid him less than 12.4M and if they even tried to lowball him that badly, they don't deserve him.
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(d) Free Agents. Subject to Section 4(a)(2)(ii) above, until a Team’s
Veteran Free Agent re-signs with his Team, signs with another NBA
Team, or is renounced, he will be included in his Prior Team’s Team Salary
at one of the following amounts (“Free Agent Amounts”):
A Cap Hold is used as an estimate for salary when a player is without a contract. Once there is a contract, then that is used in the computation of team salary
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(uuu) “Team Salary” means, with respect to a Salary Cap Year, the
sum of all Salaries attributable to a Team’s active and former players plus
other amounts as computed in accordance with Article VII, less applicable
credit amounts as computed in accordance with Article VII.
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 40345 Location: Dirty South
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:09 am Post subject:
MJST wrote:
How about the Lakers don't undersell him, and pay him what he deserves and then they don't have to worry about all that.
Julius's cap hold that first year is going to count against the cap only 12.4M which means no matter what the Lakers pay him, THIS off-season it only counts 12.4M against the cap. The only way it wouldn't is if they paid him less than 12.4M and if they even tried to lowball him that badly, they don't deserve him.
Lakers should pay him as little as possible.....what he deserves is extremely subjective.
Joined: 15 May 2001 Posts: 2146 Location: Tega Cay, South Carolina
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:20 am Post subject:
The question will be what is his market value. Dallas, Atlanta and Chicago will help to determine that. He can tell he Lakers that he is getting a max offer and use that as a negotiating tactic. The lakers can then tell him that we will pay or or not pay him the max. If they don’t he will sign an offer sheet with another team.
Now he may not be getting max offers from other teams and if his market value is below the max that will be determined and he will sign for his market value either here are somewhere else.
Randle and Gordon are 2 restricted free agents that have come into their own and if you are a rebuilding team they both make a lot of sense if you have the cap space. Since they are restricted the team that his hopeful of acquiring them will probably go for the max.
If Randle wants to stay with the Lakers he will use that to get a commitment from the Lakers to pay him the max. If he doesn’t get that commitment he will sign the sheet and call them on their decision.
Either way the market will determine his value and the it will be up to the Lakers as to whether they want to pay him at the market rate.
What is key is that they work out what they are going to do and if it is to resign him they do it after they have resolved their free agent contracts with PG 13 or Lebron.
I hope he stays but you need to realize it I will probably be for the max.
I may be way off with my opinion but i think many of you are being unrealistic with your estimates of Randle's market value.
Not seeing him signing a contract for less then $20M per year. Last year both Otto Porter and J. Holiday signed contracts over $25M per year.
How is Randle not getting a contract north of $20M per year?
Lakers need to choose whether they will be the one's paying it. IMO they should. He is an emerging 20/10 PF/C that defends and can rebound and push the pace. Tremendous fit for what the Lakers are doing.
As long as they continue to play that way, of course.
I may be way off with my opinion but i think many of you are being unrealistic with your estimates of Randle's market value.
Not seeing him signing a contract for less then $20M per year. Last year both Otto Porter and J. Holiday signed contracts over $25M per year.
How is Randle not getting a contract north of $20M per year?
Lakers need to choose whether they will be the one's paying it. IMO they should. He is an emerging 20/10 PF/C that defends and can rebound and push the pace. Tremendous fit for what the Lakers are doing.
As long as they continue to play that way, of course.
Agreed. But a lot of posters think he'll be cheaper than what he's worth because of the lack of teams in a position to give him that kind of money. Nevertheless I expect him to get ~20m at the least _________________ Kobe
How about the Lakers don't undersell him, and pay him what he deserves and then they don't have to worry about all that.
Julius's cap hold that first year is going to count against the cap only 12.4M which means no matter what the Lakers pay him, THIS off-season it only counts 12.4M against the cap. The only way it wouldn't is if they paid him less than 12.4M and if they even tried to lowball him that badly, they don't deserve him.
Lakers should pay him as little as possible.....what he deserves is extremely subjective.
What he deserves is actually largely objective and numbers based, no? _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
How about the Lakers don't undersell him, and pay him what he deserves and then they don't have to worry about all that.
Julius's cap hold that first year is going to count against the cap only 12.4M which means no matter what the Lakers pay him, THIS off-season it only counts 12.4M against the cap. The only way it wouldn't is if they paid him less than 12.4M and if they even tried to lowball him that badly, they don't deserve him.
Lakers should pay him as little as possible.....what he deserves is extremely subjective.
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