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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
BIG HIT coming to Starbucks bottom line... possibly.. unless they get creative real fast.. this is all because of the one manager
Thought about making this its own thread..
One employee..
In 2017, there were 27,339 Starbucks stores around the world.
I can just imagine how this could affect a company that large |
Excusing the employee who caused the incident wasn't a good look, but ultimately it won't matter. |
Excusing? the employee.. I didn't go into all the details of my opinion because it shouldn't be confused.. hmm
Everyone was wrong...
The cops were absolutely insane to send 6 police officers.. what did the Racist PROFILING manager tell them?
the chief is black but is covering for the racists on the force..
They were treated just like Thugs.. all because of their skin color
Just like this poor young lad
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/michigan-man-shoots-at-teen-asking-for-directions/index.html
DMR, do you indict the whole corporation?
I would sue for all the BS that occurred.. I would probably sue Starbucks jus because they owned the place.
Can a business legally ask a prospective employee if they are a Racist or have racist feelings?
Maybe they should do a personality test.
When I applied for Sony in Eugene, Oregon they ran the locals through "eco-terrorist" personality profiles before hire lol.. Eugene was having a lot of trouble with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre_Arrow |
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"And you know how uncomfortable I am around pickles" _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
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In the darkest possible timeline can we just appreciate how the comedians have stepped up to the plate? All we need now is for John Stewart to come out of retirement. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:31 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote:
Quote: | Excusing the employee who caused the incident wasn't a good look, but ultimately it won't matter. |
Read the article I didn't see any excusing. Does that mean the employee was dismissed? Did I miss something or is this what you mean by excusing? Quote: | “Our store manager never intended for these men to be arrested and this should never have escalated as it did,” Johnson said in the statement. |
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Well, to answer your question, since the police were on duty at the time and did not as far as we know incur any extra charges, that would mean no additional cost to taxpayers, it that’s not really the issue. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Opportunity Cost is reality
They could be serving warrants or searching for wanted criminals.. sure there are plenty of things they could've been doing other than taking care of two men who didn't want to buy coffee "Yet" |
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:40 am Post subject: |
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ContagiousInspiration wrote: | Opportunity Cost is reality
They could be serving warrants or searching for wanted criminals.. sure there are plenty of things they could've been doing other than taking care of two men who didn't want to buy coffee "Yet" |
I agree. I just think it’s a waste of time to talk cost when the larger issue is what’s important. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:20 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote:
Quote: | Excusing the employee who caused the incident wasn't a good look, but ultimately it won't matter. |
Read the article I didn't see any excusing. Does that mean the employee was dismissed? Did I miss something or is this what you mean by excusing? Quote: | “Our store manager never intended for these men to be arrested and this should never have escalated as it did,” Johnson said in the statement. |
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Yes. It completely dismisses the employees role in instigating the incident. "Never intended for the men to arrested" . . . "never should have escalated"?
Please . . . the manager called 911 on two men doing nothing, what else did they expect. The cops handled badly, but it never would have happened had the manager not overreacted. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
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Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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An unhinged Trump fan just released a video about murdering David Hogg
This has always been out there, but thanks to Trump it is now mainstream, normalized and even "legitimate" to far too many . . . _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
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Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | In the darkest possible timeline can we just appreciate how the comedians have stepped up to the plate? All we need now is for John Stewart to come out of retirement. |
Trevor is cool, but Jon is special. Sucks he's not around or as vocal anymore especially in this current political climate. _________________ Our tribute to Phil, the man behind LG |
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote:
Quote: | Excusing the employee who caused the incident wasn't a good look, but ultimately it won't matter. |
Read the article I didn't see any excusing. Does that mean the employee was dismissed? Did I miss something or is this what you mean by excusing? Quote: | “Our store manager never intended for these men to be arrested and this should never have escalated as it did,” Johnson said in the statement. |
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Yes. It completely dismisses the employees role in instigating the incident. "Never intended for the men to arrested" . . . "never should have escalated"?
Please . . . the manager called 911 on two men doing nothing, what else did they expect. The cops handled badly, but it never would have happened had the manager not overreacted. | Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote:
Quote: | Excusing the employee who caused the incident wasn't a good look, but ultimately it won't matter. |
Read the article I didn't see any excusing. Does that mean the employee was dismissed? Did I miss something or is this what you mean by excusing? Quote: | “Our store manager never intended for these men to be arrested and this should never have escalated as it did,” Johnson said in the statement. |
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Yes. It completely dismisses the employees role in instigating the incident. "Never intended for the men to arrested" . . . "never should have escalated"?
Please . . . the manager called 911 on two men doing nothing, what else did they expect. The cops handled badly, but it never would have happened had the manager not overreacted. |
Yeah, agreed. The manager is the one to blame here. That’s not say the police didn’t overreact as you said.
For that matter, Starbucks is getting a lot of blame here which I think is unwarranted. This looks more like a rogue employee who should be dismissed for their unprofessional actions.
I’m not sure I understand pointing the finger at Starbucks though (not saying you are DMR, more some ppl in general), unless one can make a negligence claim but it doesn’t seem that the employee was following any sort of order from above or a standard operating procedure of any kind.
For me, I hold organizations accountable when the action occurred as a result of reasonable negligence. Like if this person had a history of racist attitudes and they did nothing, or, if the organization itself instructed the employee in some way to respond in this manner. |
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This seems to be an isolated case with respect to Starbucks. I've been to plenty of Starbucks where even homeless "POC" are sitting, even hunched over sleeping, and the store didn't ask them to leave.
Not sure if it's been asked, but do we know if the store manager who called the cops is white? If they're black does it change the story? |
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ringfinger wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | jodeke wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote:
Quote: | Excusing the employee who caused the incident wasn't a good look, but ultimately it won't matter. |
Read the article I didn't see any excusing. Does that mean the employee was dismissed? Did I miss something or is this what you mean by excusing? Quote: | “Our store manager never intended for these men to be arrested and this should never have escalated as it did,” Johnson said in the statement. |
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Yes. It completely dismisses the employees role in instigating the incident. "Never intended for the men to arrested" . . . "never should have escalated"?
Please . . . the manager called 911 on two men doing nothing, what else did they expect. The cops handled badly, but it never would have happened had the manager not overreacted. |
Yeah, agreed. The manager is the one to blame here. That’s not say the police didn’t overreact as you said.
For that matter, Starbucks is getting a lot of blame here which I think is unwarranted. This looks more like a rogue employee who should be dismissed for their unprofessional actions.
I’m not sure I understand pointing the finger at Starbucks though (not saying you are DMR, more some ppl in general), unless one can make a negligence claim but it doesn’t seem that the employee was following any sort of order from above or a standard operating procedure of any kind.
For me, I hold organizations accountable when the action occurred as a result of reasonable negligence. Like if this person had a history of racist attitudes and they did nothing, or, if the organization itself instructed the employee in some way to respond in this manner. |
The woman who took the video, Melissa DePino, didn't condemn or blame Starbucks as a whole. Her complaint was about that location.
Quote: | Will you be going back to that Starbucks?
No. I can’t. And it’s right around the corner from my house
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This is Merica, sue, sue, sue. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Transcript: James Comey's interview with ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos
LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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_________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
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Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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vanexelent wrote: | This seems to be an isolated case with respect to Starbucks. I've been to plenty of Starbucks where even homeless "POC" are sitting, even hunched over sleeping, and the store didn't ask them to leave.
Not sure if it's been asked, but do we know if the store manager who called the cops is white? If they're black does it change the story? |
It was a white woman. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | This seems to be an isolated case with respect to Starbucks. I've been to plenty of Starbucks where even homeless "POC" are sitting, even hunched over sleeping, and the store didn't ask them to leave.
Not sure if it's been asked, but do we know if the store manager who called the cops is white? If they're black does it change the story? |
It was a white woman. |
Who, as of today, is no longer employed by Starbucks. Not sure if she resigned or was let go. |
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Quote: | “It is sad that Pop basically told my wife and my son and me for that matter that we were fools for supporting Donald Trump,” he said. “What happens when someone calls you a fool? You avoid them.” |
Or maybe, just maybe you listen to a man you've respected for almost 20 years and reexamine your decisions.
Quote: | Similarly, she said she’s not watching the NFL while players protest during the national anthem, and she avoids movies that feature actors who espouse liberal views. |
Snowflake, safe spaces, etc |
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This isn't Pop's first criticism of Trump. Here are a few instances. LINK LINK LINK If they feel that way now, why did they wait so long to voice it? These fans should have been gone long time ago. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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