Official 2018 NBA Draft Thread: Lakers select Moe Wagner (#25), Isaac Bonga (#39), and Svi Mykhailiuk (#47) - see 1st page for draft links
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:34 pm    Post subject:

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Scared to death about moving into the top 3


I'd rather the pick go #1 to Philly then 2 or 3 to Boston
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:18 pm    Post subject:

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Reminder: Key NBA Draft Dates....

May 15
NBA Draft Lottery (Chicago)

May 16-20
NBA Draft Combine 2018 (Chicago)

June 11
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June 21
NBA Draft 2018


gonna be weird watching the draft lottery and not being scared to death about losing about our pick


Last year's lotto... woo boy, I anti-jinxed hard but I also had a major gut feeling our luck had run out...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:08 am    Post subject:

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The biggest holes we need to plug are a defensive big and a back-up pg. We lost many games in the 4th because of poor defensive rebounding. Instead of looking for a stretch 5, the FO should concentrate on rebounding and defensive 5s.


Good luck finding a good big at #25, especially someone who earns minutes right away. I asked about the 2nd tier bigs, and it appears all of them will be gone before #25

Point guards are more plausible.

But with five guaranteed contracts, including Deng, You have to draft BPA.

One thing about Ingram/Ball/Kuzma/Hart and Randle is that all of them are versatile, can play two positions offensively and defensively. You may add any player and not worry about fit.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:40 am    Post subject:

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What are the thoughts here on Issac Bonga?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tC5CBag_7Bw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wLE9MSNVd8Q


He seems to do many things well, but nothing extra-ordinary. I'm most put off by his foot speed /athletic (in)ability. Rich man's Kyle Anderson to me..


That's what he is right now. But he's defensively better than Anderson.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:13 am    Post subject:

Freddie Buckets wrote:
lakerfanaticPT wrote:
Scared to death about moving into the top 3


I'd rather the pick go #1 to Philly then 2 or 3 to Boston


You'd rather entice Lebron to go to Philly even more by giving them a free DeAndre Ayton?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:18 am    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
Freddie Buckets wrote:
lakerfanaticPT wrote:
Scared to death about moving into the top 3


I'd rather the pick go #1 to Philly then 2 or 3 to Boston


You'd rather entice Lebron to go to Philly even more by giving them a free DeAndre Ayton?


I don't think Philly drafts Ayton.

I think they'd trade to the 3rd pick to Dallas while also taking Yogi off their hands in the process and draft Jaren Jackson Jr.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:20 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
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Freddie Buckets wrote:
lakerfanaticPT wrote:
Scared to death about moving into the top 3


I'd rather the pick go #1 to Philly then 2 or 3 to Boston


You'd rather entice Lebron to go to Philly even more by giving them a free DeAndre Ayton?


I don't think Philly drafts Ayton.

I think they'd trade to the 3rd pick to Dallas while also taking Yogi off their hands in the process and draft Jaren Jackson Jr.


Or they just trade the 1st pick for a star player while getting Lebron too.

Either way, it would basically just give Philly the title.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:16 am    Post subject:

Keep in mind the 3 teams with the best chance at the title (TOR, HOU, GSW)
all have non 3 point shooting centers- If mitchell robinson is there you take him- Clint Capella dominates at what he does- doesn't shoot at all.
Zo would lead the league is assists with Clint at center...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:13 am    Post subject:

matigol wrote:
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Megaton wrote:
What are the thoughts here on Issac Bonga?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tC5CBag_7Bw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wLE9MSNVd8Q


He seems to do many things well, but nothing extra-ordinary. I'm most put off by his foot speed /athletic (in)ability. Rich man's Kyle Anderson to me..


That's what he is right now. But he's defensively better than Anderson.


Slo-Mo is one of the above average defenders in the league.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject:

Christopher Walken wrote:
Keep in mind the 3 teams with the best chance at the title (TOR, HOU, GSW)
all have non 3 point shooting centers- If mitchell robinson is there you take him- Clint Capella dominates at what he does- doesn't shoot at all.
Zo would lead the league is assists with Clint at center...


Each of those teams have the 3-point shooters to compensate, especially Houston and GSW.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:34 am    Post subject:

I didn't realize Troy Brown Jr was a freshman. I thought he was a junior or senior for some reason. And he's apparently one of the younger freshmen in this class too.

Man I would be so pumped as all hell if we get him.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Christopher Walken wrote:
Keep in mind the 3 teams with the best chance at the title (TOR, HOU, GSW)
all have non 3 point shooting centers- If mitchell robinson is there you take him- Clint Capella dominates at what he does- doesn't shoot at all.
Zo would lead the league is assists with Clint at center...


Each of those teams have the 3-point shooters to compensate, especially Houston and GSW.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject:

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I didn't realize Troy Brown Jr was a freshman. I thought he was a junior or senior for some reason. And he's apparently one of the younger freshmen in this class too.

Man I would be so pumped as all hell if we get him.


Brown
Zo
Ingram
Kuzma
Randle

So many playmakers....
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Megaton wrote:
I didn't realize Troy Brown Jr was a freshman. I thought he was a junior or senior for some reason. And he's apparently one of the younger freshmen in this class too.

Man I would be so pumped as all hell if we get him.


Brown
Zo
Ingram
Kuzma
Randle

So many playmakers....


So much switch ability. So little shooting 😔
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:42 pm    Post subject:

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Mike@LG wrote:
Megaton wrote:
I didn't realize Troy Brown Jr was a freshman. I thought he was a junior or senior for some reason. And he's apparently one of the younger freshmen in this class too.

Man I would be so pumped as all hell if we get him.


Brown
Zo
Ingram
Kuzma
Randle

So many playmakers....


So much switch ability. So little shooting 😔


Troy Brown is already practicing with Jared Dudley on his jumper.
Zo, is expected to do better.
Ingram proved himself.
Kuzma, would be better if he didn't hit the rookie wall, he's fine.

It's just Randle.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:56 pm    Post subject:

Every champion has had either a dominant center or at least one elite shooter except for the 2004 Pistons.

We need to work on acquiring at least one of those.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:00 pm    Post subject:

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Every champion has had either a dominant center or at least one elite shooter except for the 2004 Pistons.

We need to work on acquiring at least one of those.


"Center" is such an elastic term now though.

Recently, Warriors had Bogut/Zaza. Cavs had Tristan.

Shooting is probably a must today, and I'd argue multi positional defenders over a traditional big man center.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:01 pm    Post subject:

Checking out some of the euros......this guy Rodions Kurucs looks pretty darn good. 6'9" fairly agile and looks like he has a little dog in him. Repeatable shot as well. Would not be disappointed with him at 25 as a back up to Ingram.
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Every champion has had either a dominant center or at least one elite shooter except for the 2004 Pistons.

We need to work on acquiring at least one of those.


"Center" is such an elastic term now though.

Recently, Warriors had Bogut/Zaza. Cavs had Tristan.

Shooting is probably a must today, and I'd argue multi positional defenders over a traditional big man center.


I respect all the long time posters who have made a long commitment to studying the draft. I admit I only watch the pro players, and only follow closely during the tournament and read scouting reports and watch highlight clips.

However, I'm just not sold on a team composed only of superior athletes, positionless players, with no go to superstar scorer or shooters.

I think we have the framework for a winning team... the missing piece is the scoring. I just feel we have no one who can put it the net consistently, and that is what I want us to acquire, as well as a rim protector if we don't sign Brook.
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Checking out some of the euros......this guy Rodions Kurucs looks pretty darn good. 6'9" fairly agile and looks like he has a little dog in him. Repeatable shot as well. Would not be disappointed with him at 25 as a back up to Ingram.


His Pro Day from last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3UoqMFuP4
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CBS Sports Parrish Updated Mock

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Pick acquired from Cleveland

Bruce Brown | Miami | Soph | SG

A lot of people projected Brown to have a breakout season this season. But it didn't really happen considering he played more minutes and took more shots but recorded a worse percentage from both inside and outside of the arc. His free-throw percentage was also down. And then he missed Miami's final 12 games with a broken foot. All that said, though, the 6-3 guard remains worthy of a first-round flyer because he projects as the type of tough defender NBA franchises need on the perimeter.


LINK

makes you scratch your head when you notice his 26th (Zhaire Smith) and 27th (D'Anthony Melton) picks.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:19 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
lakerfanaticPT wrote:
Checking out some of the euros......this guy Rodions Kurucs looks pretty darn good. 6'9" fairly agile and looks like he has a little dog in him. Repeatable shot as well. Would not be disappointed with him at 25 as a back up to Ingram.


His Pro Day from last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3UoqMFuP4



Did this kid go undrafted last year or did he not declare?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject:

deal wrote:
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lakerfanaticPT wrote:
Checking out some of the euros......this guy Rodions Kurucs looks pretty darn good. 6'9" fairly agile and looks like he has a little dog in him. Repeatable shot as well. Would not be disappointed with him at 25 as a back up to Ingram.


His Pro Day from last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk3UoqMFuP4



Did this kid go undrafted last year or did he not declare?


he would not have declared or remained declared for the draft last year.....if he had went undrafted, he would simply be a FA now, not in this years draft
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
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Scared to death about moving into the top 3


I'd rather the pick go #1 to Philly then 2 or 3 to Boston


You'd rather entice Lebron to go to Philly even more by giving them a free DeAndre Ayton?


I don't think Philly drafts Ayton.

I think they'd trade to the 3rd pick to Dallas while also taking Yogi off their hands in the process and draft Jaren Jackson Jr.

Or they'd take Doncic and have two 6'10 freak, elite passing point forwards to go along with Embiid.

No thanks to that
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So much switch ability. So little shooting 😔


Did you see Hal Greer (Marshall) passed away today? Hard to believe that legends such as Hot Rod Hundley (born in Charleston, drafted '57), Hal Greer (born in Huntington, drafted '58) and Jerry West (born in Chelyan, drafted in '60) were all hoopin' in Coal Country near the same time.
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