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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Judah wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Godbe wrote: | ft% at Duke: 68%
ft% this season: 68% |
Umm how bout we use the stats from his actual NBA career.. Instead of the one that helps with our narrative..
62% first year.. 68% second year.. |
thanks..that's a horrible free throw percentage. |
Well yea.. but the point is he's improving, and there's no valid reason one could give to suggest he won't continue to improve. |
Was there really anyway he could decline? |
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This is why I say the commentary in here get's odd if Ingram doesn't play for a while.. There's more to come I'm sure. |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | Judah wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Godbe wrote: | ft% at Duke: 68%
ft% this season: 68% |
Umm how bout we use the stats from his actual NBA career.. Instead of the one that helps with our narrative..
62% first year.. 68% second year.. |
thanks..that's a horrible free throw percentage. |
Well yea.. but the point is he's improving, and there's no valid reason one could give to suggest he won't continue to improve. |
Was there really anyway he could decline? |
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This is why I say the commentary in here get's odd if Ingram doesn't play for a while.. There's more to come I'm sure. |
So Ingram is the future of the team as originally posted? |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | My originally responded to a post saying this guy is the future. The fact that he now improved his free throw percentage to 68 % does not make me a believer. |
That's fine.. shrugs |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Judah wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Godbe wrote: | ft% at Duke: 68%
ft% this season: 68% |
Umm how bout we use the stats from his actual NBA career.. Instead of the one that helps with our narrative..
62% first year.. 68% second year.. |
thanks..that's a horrible free throw percentage. |
Well yea.. but the point is he's improving, and there's no valid reason one could give to suggest he won't continue to improve. |
Was there really anyway he could decline? |
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This is why I say the commentary in here get's odd if Ingram doesn't play for a while.. There's more to come I'm sure. |
So Ingram is the future of the team as originally posted? |
I see him as an important part of it.. as well as our other young pups. |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Judah wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Godbe wrote: | ft% at Duke: 68%
ft% this season: 68% |
Umm how bout we use the stats from his actual NBA career.. Instead of the one that helps with our narrative..
62% first year.. 68% second year.. |
thanks..that's a horrible free throw percentage. |
Well yea.. but the point is he's improving, and there's no valid reason one could give to suggest he won't continue to improve. |
Was there really anyway he could decline? |
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This is why I say the commentary in here get's odd if Ingram doesn't play for a while.. There's more to come I'm sure. |
So Ingram is the future of the team as originally posted? |
I see him as an important part of it.. as well as our other young pups. |
As do I, but i can't say hes the future. At this point he has the most potential, but thats about it. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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"At this point he has the most potential, but thats about it."
Meditate on that statement you made..
You say he has the most potential out of a very talented group of young men.. and follow up with "that's about it".. lol |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | "At this point he has the most potential, but thats about it."
Meditate on that statement you made..
You say he has the most potential out of a very talented group of young men.. and follow up with "that's about it".. lol |
I wouldn't cry is he and another player not named kuzma were traded for KL...thats my point |
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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What in the world do you take ”future” to mean? A HOFer or something? Every player that comprises the young core is ”the future.” They're developing. That's what that means. A six percent jump in free throw percentage is a good thing, is it not? He improved in virtually every statistical category across the board. You're being irrationally presumptuous. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | "At this point he has the most potential, but thats about it."
Meditate on that statement you made..
You say he has the most potential out of a very talented group of young men.. and follow up with "that's about it".. lol |
I wouldn't cry is he and another player not named kuzma were traded for KL...thats my point |
I don't think anyone else would.. but some of the logic you communicated prior to you expressing not crying over losing him for KL was a bit odd. |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Judah wrote: | What in the world do you take ”future” to mean? A HOFer or something? Every player that comprises the young core is ”the future.” They're developing. That's what that means. A six percent jump in free throw percentage is a good thing, is it not? He improved in virtually every statistical category across the board. You're being irrationally presumptuous. |
Hes an improving player, but hes not the future and if the right package for KL comes around involving him it should be considered. |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | Judah wrote: | What in the world do you take ”future” to mean? A HOFer or something? Every player that comprises the young core is ”the future.” They're developing. That's what that means. A six percent jump in free throw percentage is a good thing, is it not? He improved in virtually every statistical category across the board. You're being irrationally presumptuous. |
Hes an improving player, but hes not the future and if the right package for KL comes around involving him it should be considered. |
When "the future" is referenced as being untouchable in a KL trade, i expect a lot. |
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | Judah wrote: | What in the world do you take ”future” to mean? A HOFer or something? Every player that comprises the young core is ”the future.” They're developing. That's what that means. A six percent jump in free throw percentage is a good thing, is it not? He improved in virtually every statistical category across the board. You're being irrationally presumptuous. |
Hes an improving player, but hes not the future and if the right package for KL comes around involving him it should be considered. |
Well, duh? _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Judah wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | Judah wrote: | What in the world do you take ”future” to mean? A HOFer or something? Every player that comprises the young core is ”the future.” They're developing. That's what that means. A six percent jump in free throw percentage is a good thing, is it not? He improved in virtually every statistical category across the board. You're being irrationally presumptuous. |
Hes an improving player, but hes not the future and if the right package for KL comes around involving him it should be considered. |
Well, duh? |
Then go back to my original post |
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | Judah wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | Judah wrote: | What in the world do you take ”future” to mean? A HOFer or something? Every player that comprises the young core is ”the future.” They're developing. That's what that means. A six percent jump in free throw percentage is a good thing, is it not? He improved in virtually every statistical category across the board. You're being irrationally presumptuous. |
Hes an improving player, but hes not the future and if the right package for KL comes around involving him it should be considered. |
Well, duh? |
Then go back to my original post |
Your original post is the only one that even mentioned Kawhi. It's like you walked into a bar and decided to shout a bunch of random things for absolutely no reason. It's just weird. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Judah wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | Judah wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | Judah wrote: | What in the world do you take ”future” to mean? A HOFer or something? Every player that comprises the young core is ”the future.” They're developing. That's what that means. A six percent jump in free throw percentage is a good thing, is it not? He improved in virtually every statistical category across the board. You're being irrationally presumptuous. |
Hes an improving player, but hes not the future and if the right package for KL comes around involving him it should be considered. |
Well, duh? |
Then go back to my original post |
Your original post is the only one that even mentioned Kawhi. It's like you walked into a bar and decided to shout a bunch of random things for absolutely no reason. It's just weird. |
Why else wouldn't Ingram be here at the beginning of the season if i wasn't referring to a KL trade ?
The old never assume.... |
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GoldenThroat Moderator
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Here are Ingram's Synergy numbers by Play Type. Let me know if you have any specific requests. (jumpers when his defender goes under the PnR, post ups from the left block, etc.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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watchME Star Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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GT I think you should do that with plyayers in our FA watchlist. cool stats |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Those spotup numbers make me so happy |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wait GT can you give a break down of the spotup numbers? I wonder how much is him excelling at attacking closeouts versus hitting open spotup jumpers |
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GoldenThroat Moderator
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | Wait GT can you give a break down of the spotup numbers? I wonder how much is him excelling at attacking closeouts versus hitting open spotup jumpers |
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GoldenThroat Moderator
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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So he was about average on catch & shoot Spot Ups, and then absolutely killed it when attacking closeouts, whether it was a one-dribble pull-up or going all the way to the basket.
All the more reason for him to not pass up those catch & shoot attempts next season. If he's a threat, it opens up opportunities for him to do some things that he's already very good at. |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have the numbers for BI once he took over the point guard duties? Once he seemed much more comfortable with the ball in his hands? I'd like to see if there was much difference from earlier in the year when he was really struggling. |
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